(HULK)
(Smash)
I was at Art which is a value. So, yeah, packed with people.
I should've have channeled Dentist when I planned the trip imo
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I should've have channeled Dentist when I planned the trip imo
glvsav37
Footballguy
LOL. I think there is a huuuuge population (figuratively and physically) of people who live through Disney fantasy b/c their lives are the suck....ugly, fat, outcasts, etc. They gravitate toward places like disney b/c for honeymoons they don't have to only sit on the beach and be surrounded by prettier, fitter, more fun people on the beach while they lay there in their swim-burka. There, no matter what their physical appeal, they will be fawned over and made to feel all "princessy" esp when they are sending out the 'I'm just married' signal by wearing the ears.You didn't wear the special ears and therefor Hulk's Law doesn't apply.Went to WDW on our honeymoon. It was both of our first trip there, although I had been to DL as a kid. We had a blast. We did it as the first week of a 2 week trip, the second week we rented a place on Hilton Head and had the beach trip you mentioned. We didn't wear the mouse ears, nor anything identifying us as newlyweds. I agree that they are annoying. The only time we have ever done anything like that is on one trip I secretly got my wife a B-Day pin and forced her to wear it. She wasn't pleased!
I don't think i was hideous, maybe a 5-6!
That said, we honeymooned at WDW and I don't consider myself or wife a beast. We are the 1%
The trip was a delayed HM, we were married 3 months earlier and b/c of work schedules couldn't get away right after. Plus, sitting on a beach all day makes me crazy.Yes, we wore the hats, we were young and having fun. We got a few benefits from it, mostly extra fast passes. One CM at the RnR Coaster let us take a few extra rides by showing us through the staff door back to the front. He was very cool. Met Tim Allen, Ken Griffey Jr and Barry Bonds on that trip.
Back to the topic.... A lot of Disney people are ####in crazy. I do spend some time on WDW type FBG sites and holy crap I wouldn't want to spend 10 minutes with these people.
glvsav37
Footballguy
ok...so scooter people...
before i start, there are 2 things that always hit me when I go to disney
1. Handicap children: For whatever reason, I notice a higher concentration of handicap children at WDW then anywhere else I go. It really makes me pause and be thankful for my children's health. Whenever they are acting up and I begin to scold them, I always see a family pushing a child in a wheelchair nearby and it grounds me.
2. Morbidly Obese people: I can't think of a worse place to be then somewhere where you need to travel miles in a day in oppressive heat and sun. And I mean the food isn't all that good either? But yet they come in droves. I don't like to stare, and I have no idea what let them to be in such bad shape (Illness or otherwise) but man it is almost impossible to NOT watch. And then if you look at their kids, they are almost guaranteed the same fate....I almost want to run over and smack the 3rd mickey bar out of their mouths. I could only imagine what a food server thinks when the see a family of them seated in their section...It's gonna be a long shift!
That said, the scooter thing is really out of control and dangerous. I can't believe that there are more injuries then we hear about to regular walkers with those things. Especially how crowded the parks are these days. I almost want them to install HOV-type lanes in certain areas just for those.
before i start, there are 2 things that always hit me when I go to disney
1. Handicap children: For whatever reason, I notice a higher concentration of handicap children at WDW then anywhere else I go. It really makes me pause and be thankful for my children's health. Whenever they are acting up and I begin to scold them, I always see a family pushing a child in a wheelchair nearby and it grounds me.
2. Morbidly Obese people: I can't think of a worse place to be then somewhere where you need to travel miles in a day in oppressive heat and sun. And I mean the food isn't all that good either? But yet they come in droves. I don't like to stare, and I have no idea what let them to be in such bad shape (Illness or otherwise) but man it is almost impossible to NOT watch. And then if you look at their kids, they are almost guaranteed the same fate....I almost want to run over and smack the 3rd mickey bar out of their mouths. I could only imagine what a food server thinks when the see a family of them seated in their section...It's gonna be a long shift!
That said, the scooter thing is really out of control and dangerous. I can't believe that there are more injuries then we hear about to regular walkers with those things. Especially how crowded the parks are these days. I almost want them to install HOV-type lanes in certain areas just for those.
(HULK)
(Smash)
Going to need to see a honey moon pic Keith...LOL. I think there is a huuuuge population (figuratively and physically) of people who live through Disney fantasy b/c their lives are the suck....ugly, fat, outcasts, etc. They gravitate toward places like disney b/c for honeymoons they don't have to only sit on the beach and be surrounded by prettier, fitter, more fun people on the beach while they lay there in their swim-burka. There, no matter what their physical appeal, they will be fawned over and made to feel all "princessy" esp when they are sending out the 'I'm just married' signal by wearing the ears.You didn't wear the special ears and therefor Hulk's Law doesn't apply.Went to WDW on our honeymoon. It was both of our first trip there, although I had been to DL as a kid. We had a blast. We did it as the first week of a 2 week trip, the second week we rented a place on Hilton Head and had the beach trip you mentioned. We didn't wear the mouse ears, nor anything identifying us as newlyweds. I agree that they are annoying. The only time we have ever done anything like that is on one trip I secretly got my wife a B-Day pin and forced her to wear it. She wasn't pleased!
I don't think i was hideous, maybe a 5-6!
That said, we honeymooned at WDW and I don't consider myself or wife a beast. We are the 1%
Yes, we wore the hats, we were young and having fun. We got a few benefits from it, mostly extra fast passes. One CM at the RnR Coaster let us take a few extra rides by showing us through the staff door back to the front. He was very cool. Met Tim Allen, Ken Griffey Jr and Barry Bonds on that trip.
Back to the topic.... A lot of Disney people are ####in crazy. I do spend some time on WDW type FBG sites and holy crap I wouldn't want to spend 10 minutes with these people.
You've been married a long time if I recall correctly, this may be a more recent development. And Hulk's Law isn't 100%, its just a strong probability of ugliness.
(HULK)
(Smash)
We let a make a wish kid cut in front of us for the Mine Train. I'd do that 100 times out of 100 without complaint.
HOV lane should be painted with pictures of Pete, the fat version of Goofy.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
I wrote about this last year when I last went to Epcot during F&W. The frat boys (and girls too, to be fair) were annoying as hell and I actually got in one frat boy's face when he threatened a girl who HE bumped into and spilled his beers. When we go next year, it definitely won't be during F&W.
Also, completely agree with you on those stupid scooters. We were in Downtown Disney one night and were waiting for the bus in the rain. Right as were to get on, this whale rolls up and demands that we all move out of the way so she could get on. God I wish I had an harpoon that night.
glvsav37
Footballguy
I'll have to go find one, that HM was pre-facebook.Going to need to see a honey moon pic Keith...LOL. I think there is a huuuuge population (figuratively and physically) of people who live through Disney fantasy b/c their lives are the suck....ugly, fat, outcasts, etc. They gravitate toward places like disney b/c for honeymoons they don't have to only sit on the beach and be surrounded by prettier, fitter, more fun people on the beach while they lay there in their swim-burka. There, no matter what their physical appeal, they will be fawned over and made to feel all "princessy" esp when they are sending out the 'I'm just married' signal by wearing the ears.You didn't wear the special ears and therefor Hulk's Law doesn't apply.Went to WDW on our honeymoon. It was both of our first trip there, although I had been to DL as a kid. We had a blast. We did it as the first week of a 2 week trip, the second week we rented a place on Hilton Head and had the beach trip you mentioned. We didn't wear the mouse ears, nor anything identifying us as newlyweds. I agree that they are annoying. The only time we have ever done anything like that is on one trip I secretly got my wife a B-Day pin and forced her to wear it. She wasn't pleased!
I don't think i was hideous, maybe a 5-6!
That said, we honeymooned at WDW and I don't consider myself or wife a beast. We are the 1%
Yes, we wore the hats, we were young and having fun. We got a few benefits from it, mostly extra fast passes. One CM at the RnR Coaster let us take a few extra rides by showing us through the staff door back to the front. He was very cool. Met Tim Allen, Ken Griffey Jr and Barry Bonds on that trip.
Back to the topic.... A lot of Disney people are ####in crazy. I do spend some time on WDW type FBG sites and holy crap I wouldn't want to spend 10 minutes with these people.
You've been married a long time if I recall correctly, this may be a more recent development. And Hulk's Law isn't 100%, its just a strong probability of ugliness.
no scientific scale is 100% accurate GB, but by all indicators you would be able to create a college level course around it.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
That's just it thought w/r/t your #1 - The reason you see a lot there is because Disney goes out of their way to make it special for them. If you were rate Disney service in general as a 9 out of a 10 (I would actually make it a 10/10) they really do push it to 11 or more for handicapped kids.
I was there once in one of the spots where there is more than one character and there was a kid in a motorized assistance chair. Severely handicapped. When it was his turn the character was of course great with him and took longer with him than anyone else, but the Disney helper that stands there with the characters did some kind of sign to the other handlers and all the characters came over and entertained the kid together.
I've seen moms crying with amazment when their kids are just given stuff for no reason then the handlers or characters or workers noticed them. Ever see a kid in a wheel chair in line at the bakery and when it was the family's turn to order, the worker came around to the line and just gave the kid several of those huge bigger than your head shaped cookies for free? I have. They don't do it every time but they do it a lot. And for the most part, everyone else in the parks like me tries to go out of their way for those families. Letting them go in front of you for something is easy. Helping them take pictures is easy. It's common humanity. But Disney just gets it when it comes to that stuff. Especially when its girls. They do literally treat them like princesses.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I forgot one I saw just this trip.
Handicapped girl in a princess dress in her chair. She was near us on a parade route in Magic Kingdom. When the parade got to our spot and they saw her, I kid you not it was like that video when the marathon runners all shake the hand of the veteran - every character and dancer that could went over to talk to her or take a picture or something like that. I doubt they did it with every kid - it would be impossible, but I'm willing to bet they did it for more than one.
And all of that in constrast with Buttermilk Bertha and her 750 pound thighs in a scooter dripping two ice cream cones down her "arms" while she sits there and complains about all the people there that make it hard for her to get around.
Handicapped girl in a princess dress in her chair. She was near us on a parade route in Magic Kingdom. When the parade got to our spot and they saw her, I kid you not it was like that video when the marathon runners all shake the hand of the veteran - every character and dancer that could went over to talk to her or take a picture or something like that. I doubt they did it with every kid - it would be impossible, but I'm willing to bet they did it for more than one.
And all of that in constrast with Buttermilk Bertha and her 750 pound thighs in a scooter dripping two ice cream cones down her "arms" while she sits there and complains about all the people there that make it hard for her to get around.
Quez
Footballguy
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Several wait times at MK busted two hours today.
With the Wednesday before Thanksgiving now a day from school in most (if not all) of the country, there's a nine-day travel window with at most two missed days of school. So yeah, it's going to be insane at WDW.
With the Wednesday before Thanksgiving now a day from school in most (if not all) of the country, there's a nine-day travel window with at most two missed days of school. So yeah, it's going to be insane at WDW.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
My Orlando trips almost always have Universal and Disney days. The two big things I notice at Universal are the relative lack of scooters clogging foot traffic, and the metal detectors at the queue entries of the E-ticket rides. I love that Universal got so tired of people losing keys, phones, wallets, etc. on Hulk and Rockit that they installed metal detectors to enforce loose item bans.roarlions said:
Spin
Footballguy
One quick note, for those of you who put your kids up on your shoulders be super careful. I saw one kid fall off his dad's shoulders, thankfully he's ok. Another kid had to be taken out via ambulance during the Hocus Pocus thing after falling and hitting his head.
I imagine it probably happens all the time there. I saw tons of kids up on their parent's shoulders.
I imagine it probably happens all the time there. I saw tons of kids up on their parent's shoulders.
Capella
Footballguy
Wow. We went last year the day after thanksgiving and it was shockingly tolerable. Taking the family again this year and praying for the best. 8 am reservations at BOG.
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Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
The crowd levels in general are way up from two years ago. So traffic problems caused by scooters are more frequent and more dangerous. I admit during high-stress park-walking times like right after fireworks, I've taken countermeasures against aggressive walkers on my 6 or 9, by trying to lure them into a scooter to block them.This scooter stuff is killin me. I haven't been in two years but has it exploded since then because I don't remember it being that bad.
Parkgoers in general are getting more savvy, too. A lot more shark moves like parking scooters on prime parade-viewing space a couple hours ahead of the show. And as referenced here today, seems to be a lot more scooter-coattail-riding to jump lines at attractions.
Takes some of the attention away from the people who use strollers as shields or battering rams when teeming through the parks.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
8 am reservations at BOG are a great way to plan against heavy crowds. The standby queues take 2-4 hours to hit those insane wait times.
I recommend the Assorted Cured Meats and Cheese. My wife liked the Eggs Florentine. The pastry plate they bring out to the table is pretty good, too.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
We've stayed at Port Orleans Riverside and Pop Century, but we always have a car. So on Epcot, DHS, and AK days we just drive to the parks.
Still like to bus it to MK to bypass TTC, but those buses can fill quickly at the larger resorts.
I could see the monorail resorts having low bus traffic. Not as big as the Values, probably fewer large groups hitting the parks together.
Beach Club was great for Epcot and DHS: easy walk to the World Showcase side of Epcot, short boat ride to DHS and the boats ran constantly.
Capella
Footballguy
Thanks. Think I am doing the meat plate. The marmalade sold me. The open-faced sandwich they have looks great too.
RnR
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
Man I haven't been in forever and these stories of the buttered up scooter whales is hilarious and a nightmare at the same time.
I was thinking about our 1st trip with the kids or possibly the cruise. Our boys would be 5 and almost 3.....is that too young? If not what would your plan of attack be in order to avoid flipping out and punching a whale?
I was thinking about our 1st trip with the kids or possibly the cruise. Our boys would be 5 and almost 3.....is that too young? If not what would your plan of attack be in order to avoid flipping out and punching a whale?
RnR
Footballguy
Not too young. I thought mine would be, but it is a blast for everyone with proper planning.
My advice would be breaking up the day with a trip back to the hotel for nap, lunch and some down time for mom/dad. If you have park hopper, might be a good way to break up your day between two parks anyway.
I'd also say working a strong strategy on your FastPass options to make sure you're mixing in short wait times and not making long walks between attractions is important as well. (Again, as much for mom/dad as it is for kids.)
Finally, I'd say focus on character meet and greets. At those ages, the kids will be mesmerized, assuming they still "believe" Mickey and the gang are real. It'll be a blast and some really great photo ops.
glvsav37
Footballguy
Stroller folk do have a use.....they are great as lead blockers though the crowd after fireworks. Get behind one and draft behind it and between it's wake of angry people. Let them take the heat.
I snapped this on my last trip, thought it was a strangely interesting company name for a stroller rental place.
I snapped this on my last trip, thought it was a strangely interesting company name for a stroller rental place.
(HULK)
(Smash)
The one day I rented a stroller, I went to the Disney rental place on the left side of the entrance to Epcot. They rent scooters too. They probably had a fleet of 200 strollers for rent, along with about 50 or so scooters. So imagine one fat blob on a scooter for every 4 strollers.
(HULK)
(Smash)
lol
glvsav37
Footballguy
@(HULK) OK, you asked for itGoing to need to see a honey moon pic Keith...LOL. I think there is a huuuuge population (figuratively and physically) of people who live through Disney fantasy b/c their lives are the suck....ugly, fat, outcasts, etc. They gravitate toward places like disney b/c for honeymoons they don't have to only sit on the beach and be surrounded by prettier, fitter, more fun people on the beach while they lay there in their swim-burka. There, no matter what their physical appeal, they will be fawned over and made to feel all "princessy" esp when they are sending out the 'I'm just married' signal by wearing the ears.
That said, we honeymooned at WDW and I don't consider myself or wife a beast. We are the 1%
Yes, we wore the hats, we were young and having fun. We got a few benefits from it, mostly extra fast passes. One CM at the RnR Coaster let us take a few extra rides by showing us through the staff door back to the front. He was very cool. Met Tim Allen, Ken Griffey Jr and Barry Bonds on that trip.
Back to the topic.... A lot of Disney people are ####in crazy. I do spend some time on WDW type FBG sites and holy crap I wouldn't want to spend 10 minutes with these people.
You've been married a long time if I recall correctly, this may be a more recent development. And Hulk's Law isn't 100%, its just a strong probability of ugliness.
Mind you I had to dig these out of the basement....pre-Facebook, actual film type photos. This was Christmas > New Years 2000 and man it was ####### cold there that week.
So, maybe i'm not in the 1%...but when it comes to Disney Wedding Ear People, I'm def in the top 10%.
We still have the hats too....found the box while I was looking for the photos. Maybe i'll have to break them out on the next trip
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Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
At those ages for the kids... honestly, I'd consider Disneyland. Less hassle getting to the parks, more reliable weather, lower cost, higher density of young kid rides and attractions. Anaheim won't have all the awesome dining options you have at the WDW Resorts and Epcot World Showcase, but there's still plenty of outstanding character dining.GoBirds said:
I'd say for WDW, the ideal ages for the kids would be 7-9. Old enough to get around on their own, still young enough to pay child prices.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
I'd give you a detailed review of the marmalade, but my wife always grabs it from my plate before I get a chance to try it. I suppose that's an endorsement.Capella said:
Of the three dining rooms, I prefer the "West Wing". It's a little darker than the other two, but a bit quieter and still contains some magic.
The "Rose Gallery" is probably the one that captures the most material from the movie.
Seating at breakfast is open once you're in the house. Make no friends and take no prisoners. After you pay and enter the dining area, you are in the "Ballroom". To your right will be most of the seating and a drink station. (At breakfast, beverages are self-serve.) As you head away from the main entrance and towards the story windows of the Ballroom, the West Wing will be to your left and the Rose Gallery will be to your right. Each of those rooms have their own drink/silverware stations. For a table at their of the side rooms, I recommend abandoning the scooter right at the entry to the room you want to slow down traffic behind you. People will ##### about you on the Internet, but you will get the table you want.
RnR
Footballguy
Important distinction for GoBirds: "almost 3" = 2 = free. "actually 3" = child's price admission.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
My first trip to WDW with my wife was a couple weeks after those photos were taken. We weren't married or engaged yet, but I knew she was the one. On our MK day, the Express Monorail went offline and we were rerouted to the Resort Monorail. As we went by the Grand Floridian and Cinderella Wedding Pavilion...glvsav37 said:@(HULK) OK, you asked for itGoing to need to see a honey moon pic Keith...LOL. I think there is a huuuuge population (figuratively and physically) of people who live through Disney fantasy b/c their lives are the suck....ugly, fat, outcasts, etc. They gravitate toward places like disney b/c for honeymoons they don't have to only sit on the beach and be surrounded by prettier, fitter, more fun people on the beach while they lay there in their swim-burka. There, no matter what their physical appeal, they will be fawned over and made to feel all "princessy" esp when they are sending out the 'I'm just married' signal by wearing the ears.
That said, we honeymooned at WDW and I don't consider myself or wife a beast. We are the 1%
Yes, we wore the hats, we were young and having fun. We got a few benefits from it, mostly extra fast passes. One CM at the RnR Coaster let us take a few extra rides by showing us through the staff door back to the front. He was very cool. Met Tim Allen, Ken Griffey Jr and Barry Bonds on that trip.
Back to the topic.... A lot of Disney people are ####in crazy. I do spend some time on WDW type FBG sites and holy crap I wouldn't want to spend 10 minutes with these people.
You've been married a long time if I recall correctly, this may be a more recent development. And Hulk's Law isn't 100%, its just a strong probability of ugliness.
Mind you I had to dig these out of the basement....pre-Facebook, actual film type photos. This was Christmas > New Years 2000 and man it was ####### cold there that week.
So, maybe i'm not in the 1%...but when it comes to Disney Wedding Ear People, I'm def in the top 10%.
We still have the hats too....found the box while I was looking for the photos. Maybe i'll have to break them out on the next trip
Me: "No."
Her: "What?"
Me: "We're not having our wedding at that Cinderella thing."
Her: "OK."
It was the first time I had brought up marriage in any context involving us. When she discussed the trip with her best friend a few days later, that conversation was the first thing she brought up.
We were married less than a year after that. Not at WDW. But every time we see that wedding pavilion or even a sign for it, it's a race to for us to turn to each other and say "No."
(HULK)
(Smash)
Easily top 1% for married mouse ear people... although your wife is carrying you guysglvsav37 said:@(HULK) OK, you asked for itGoing to need to see a honey moon pic Keith...LOL. I think there is a huuuuge population (figuratively and physically) of people who live through Disney fantasy b/c their lives are the suck....ugly, fat, outcasts, etc. They gravitate toward places like disney b/c for honeymoons they don't have to only sit on the beach and be surrounded by prettier, fitter, more fun people on the beach while they lay there in their swim-burka. There, no matter what their physical appeal, they will be fawned over and made to feel all "princessy" esp when they are sending out the 'I'm just married' signal by wearing the ears.
That said, we honeymooned at WDW and I don't consider myself or wife a beast. We are the 1%
Yes, we wore the hats, we were young and having fun. We got a few benefits from it, mostly extra fast passes. One CM at the RnR Coaster let us take a few extra rides by showing us through the staff door back to the front. He was very cool. Met Tim Allen, Ken Griffey Jr and Barry Bonds on that trip.
Back to the topic.... A lot of Disney people are ####in crazy. I do spend some time on WDW type FBG sites and holy crap I wouldn't want to spend 10 minutes with these people.
You've been married a long time if I recall correctly, this may be a more recent development. And Hulk's Law isn't 100%, its just a strong probability of ugliness.
Mind you I had to dig these out of the basement....pre-Facebook, actual film type photos. This was Christmas > New Years 2000 and man it was ####### cold there that week.
So, maybe i'm not in the 1%...but when it comes to Disney Wedding Ear People, I'm def in the top 10%.
We still have the hats too....found the box while I was looking for the photos. Maybe i'll have to break them out on the next trip
(HULK)
(Smash)
Walt did invent the People Mover so who knows?
They did ban selfie sticks, so at least they go that right.
glvsav37
Footballguy
We each contribute in our own waysEasily top 1% for married mouse ear people... although your wife is carrying you guysglvsav37 said:
But glad I ranked high on the HULK scale.Yea, I've noticed that. Groom ears being what they are, those were pretty bad ###. My wife commented how weak the new ones were on our last trip
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
Keep in mind that '3' is subjective. No one is going to ask you for a birth certificate. Back when you had physical tix, we had a 4 y.o. in a stroller (not a huge kid) when we were entering, and they didn't ask for a ticket!
The Commish
Footballguy
So, there's a TON of information in here, but I haven't seen any on animal boarding. I have recently learned that Disney has it, but they are full. Anyone else have any experience in this area?
The Commish
Footballguy
So, do you guys just walk in and sit down or are you having to do reservations 6 months in advance or whatever. I know you have season passes, how do you get into these places?
Capella
Footballguy
For things like today with family coming into town (who have no idea what's good or how to plan for this) I check daily to see what comes free. Usually the week of your trip a bunch of reservations will shake free as people overbook or decide not to do certain things and then cancel at the last moment so they don't get charged fees.I got these reservations Monday. Be Our a Guest at 8 am, can't ask for anything better.
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ragincajun
Footballguy
On the way to the airport. Will be at Wilderness Lodge today through Saturday. I will post play by play if I am able to function due to overeating.
ragincajun
Footballguy
Update.....
Sitting at MSY Airport with a 4yo and 1.5yo of another hour. Good times.
Sitting at MSY Airport with a 4yo and 1.5yo of another hour. Good times.
ragincajun
Footballguy
Update:
On the boat from WL to MK. My wife rented a double stroller. Awesome!!!!! :not really:
On the boat from WL to MK. My wife rented a double stroller. Awesome!!!!! :not really:
ragincajun
Footballguy
Dinner last night had Roaring Fork quick serve. So so....
Tonight though I indulge Ohana with my presence. Thoughts, strategies, game plan?
Tonight though I indulge Ohana with my presence. Thoughts, strategies, game plan?
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