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Of course there are the big ones...but a small one that always interested me...maybe because I grew up near there...has been the "Lost Colony" of Roanoke Island.

Roanoke Island was the site of the 16th century Roanoke Colony, the first English colony in the New World in what was then called Virginia, in honor of England's ruling monarch, Queen Elizabeth I. There were two major groups of settlers who attempted to establish a permanent settlement at Roanoke Island, and each failed.

The first attempt to establish the Roanoke Colony was run by Ralph Lane after Sir Richard Grenville, who had transported the colonists to Virginia, returned to England for supplies as planned. Unfortunately for the colonists, who were desperately in need of supplies, Grenville's return was delayed. As a result, when Sir Francis Drake put in at Roanoke after attacking the Spanish colony of St. Augustine, the entire population of the colony returned with Drake to England.

In 1587, the English again attempted to settle. John White, father of one of the colonists, and grandfather to the first English child born in the New World, Virginia Dare, left the colony to return to England for supplies that he felt would help the colonists to survive, expecting to return to Roanoke Island within three months. Instead, he found England at war with Spain, and all ships were confiscated for use of the war efforts. His return to Roanoke Island was delayed until 1590. When he finally returned, the colonists had disappeared. The only thing he found was the word "CROATOAN" carved into a post of the fort and "CRO" carved into a nearby tree. Before leaving the colony for England three years earlier, White left instructions with the colonists that if they were forced to abandon their settlement on Roanoke, that they were to carve out a cross on a tree upon the island.

"CROATOAN" was the name of an island to the south (modern-day Hatteras Island), where a friendly native tribe were known to live, and it was thus reasonable to assume that the colonists had left the Roanoke settlement bound for that island. However, foul weather would keep White from venturing south to search on Croatoan for the colonists, and they returned to England. White would never return to the New World. The fate of the colony has never been authoritatively ascertained, and consequently it became known as "The Lost Colony".

What unsolved mysteries have you guys always wished were solved?

 
I have been reading some very interesting takes on Roanoke. There are historians who are starting to say Roanoke was essentially written out of the history books to allow the folks up north to take all the credit for how we became America. You should look into it.

 
I have been reading some very interesting takes on Roanoke. There are historians who are starting to say Roanoke was essentially written out of the history books to allow the folks up north to take all the credit for how we became America. You should look into it.
Haven't heard that but wouldn't put anything past the yankees and their revisionist history lessons (see Civil War)...but how would they disregard Jamestown as being before anything up north?
 
Of course there are the big ones...but a small one that always interested me...maybe because I grew up near there...has been the "Lost Colony" of Roanoke Island.
Last September the Lost Colony Theater in Manteo, had a couple buildings burn down. The most important being Irene Rains Costume Shop. I hated hearing that. It's a long running neat show they put on there. Andy Griffith was the first to play Sir Walter Raleigh in The Lost Colony. Anyway, they lost almost all of their costumes, except a few that were at the dry cleaners. Link
 
The Mary Celeste

from wiki -The Mary Celeste was a brigantine discovered in the Atlantic Ocean unmanned and under full sail heading towards the Strait of Gibraltar in 1872. The fate of the crew is the subject of much speculation: theories range from alcoholic fumes to underwater earthquakes, along with a large number of fictional accounts. The Mary Celeste is often described as the archetypal ghost ship.

 
I have been reading some very interesting takes on Roanoke. There are historians who are starting to say Roanoke was essentially written out of the history books to allow the folks up north to take all the credit for how we became America. You should look into it.
Haven't heard that but wouldn't put anything past the yankees and their revisionist history lessons (see Civil War)...but how would they disregard Jamestown as being before anything up north?
They didn't like that Jamestown is the first place representative democracy happened in America. Now they didn't declare independence but according to the latest research(and I am going strictly off memory) they had about everything else the founders would later claim for their own. It was an interesting look at how those in charge control history.
 
I'd like to know how the Incas built everything so perfectly square on the side of a mountain and with no mortar.

 
John & Clarence Anglin, and Frank Morris -- did they die in their escape attempt? If they didn't die, what they've been doing. They'd all be 75-80 years old if still alive.

 
Who was Dan Cooper (of D. B. Cooper fame) and what happened to him after he parachuted out of that Boeing 727?

 
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Who was Dan Cooper (of D. B. Cooper fame) and what happened to him after he parachuted out of that Boeing 727?
I've always thought some hiker found his dead body and the money in a remote area grabbed the bag and split. Hard to trace that cash if you spend it right.
 
Who was Dan Cooper (of D. B. Cooper fame) and what happened to him after he parachuted out of that Boeing 727?
I've always thought some hiker found his dead body and the money in a remote area grabbed the bag and split. Hard to trace that cash if you spend it right.
Some years later a family was picnicking in the area where he would have jumped and found some money buried in the sand. The FBI traced the money and it was the same money used in Cooper's hijacking. No body was found though. I remember seeing this case on the tv show Unsolved Mysteries and it always stuck with me as one of the most interesting cases.
 
I have been reading some very interesting takes on Roanoke. There are historians who are starting to say Roanoke was essentially written out of the history books to allow the folks up north to take all the credit for how we became America. You should look into it.
Haven't heard that but wouldn't put anything past the yankees and their revisionist history lessons (see Civil War)...but how would they disregard Jamestown as being before anything up north?
They didn't like that Jamestown is the first place representative democracy happened in America. Now they didn't declare independence but according to the latest research(and I am going strictly off memory) they had about everything else the founders would later claim for their own. It was an interesting look at how those in charge control history.
I don't understand the problem here. If you ask me the question "where is the first place representative democracy happened in America?" I would respond with "Why does it matter? Only someone with a very small mind would worry about such things."
 
Of course there are the big ones...but a small one that always interested me...maybe because I grew up near there...has been the "Lost Colony" of Roanoke Island.Roanoke Island was the site of the 16th century Roanoke Colony, the first English colony in the New World in what was then called Virginia, in honor of England's ruling monarch, Queen Elizabeth I. There were two major groups of settlers who attempted to establish a permanent settlement at Roanoke Island, and each failed.The first attempt to establish the Roanoke Colony was run by Ralph Lane after Sir Richard Grenville, who had transported the colonists to Virginia, returned to England for supplies as planned. Unfortunately for the colonists, who were desperately in need of supplies, Grenville's return was delayed. As a result, when Sir Francis Drake put in at Roanoke after attacking the Spanish colony of St. Augustine, the entire population of the colony returned with Drake to England.In 1587, the English again attempted to settle. John White, father of one of the colonists, and grandfather to the first English child born in the New World, Virginia Dare, left the colony to return to England for supplies that he felt would help the colonists to survive, expecting to return to Roanoke Island within three months. Instead, he found England at war with Spain, and all ships were confiscated for use of the war efforts. His return to Roanoke Island was delayed until 1590. When he finally returned, the colonists had disappeared. The only thing he found was the word "CROATOAN" carved into a post of the fort and "CRO" carved into a nearby tree. Before leaving the colony for England three years earlier, White left instructions with the colonists that if they were forced to abandon their settlement on Roanoke, that they were to carve out a cross on a tree upon the island."CROATOAN" was the name of an island to the south (modern-day Hatteras Island), where a friendly native tribe were known to live, and it was thus reasonable to assume that the colonists had left the Roanoke settlement bound for that island. However, foul weather would keep White from venturing south to search on Croatoan for the colonists, and they returned to England. White would never return to the New World. The fate of the colony has never been authoritatively ascertained, and consequently it became known as "The Lost Colony".What unsolved mysteries have you guys always wished were solved?
I bet the answer is something quite boring. Like they moved to the island and just died off.
 
The Mary Celeste

from wiki -The Mary Celeste was a brigantine discovered in the Atlantic Ocean unmanned and under full sail heading towards the Strait of Gibraltar in 1872. The fate of the crew is the subject of much speculation: theories range from alcoholic fumes to underwater earthquakes, along with a large number of fictional accounts. The Mary Celeste is often described as the archetypal ghost ship.
The most likely scenario is the crew of the ship that "salvaged" the Marie Celeste actually killed them and cooked up a fake story and won their trial.
 
I have been reading some very interesting takes on Roanoke. There are historians who are starting to say Roanoke was essentially written out of the history books to allow the folks up north to take all the credit for how we became America. You should look into it.
Haven't heard that but wouldn't put anything past the yankees and their revisionist history lessons (see Civil War)...but how would they disregard Jamestown as being before anything up north?
They didn't like that Jamestown is the first place representative democracy happened in America. Now they didn't declare independence but according to the latest research(and I am going strictly off memory) they had about everything else the founders would later claim for their own. It was an interesting look at how those in charge control history.
I don't understand the problem here. If you ask me the question "where is the first place representative democracy happened in America?" I would respond with "Why does it matter? Only someone with a very small mind would worry about such things."
Really?
 
Who was Dan Cooper (of D. B. Cooper fame) and what happened to him after he parachuted out of that Boeing 727?
They did recover a portion of the money along a river years after the jump. That clearly suggests he died in the jump and the money was simply lost. The only other option is that the dude would have the guts to plan this hijacking, pull it off perfectly, escape capture, and then simply leave the money in the mountains? Not likely.
 
When I lived in Spain someone took a #### on the end table in the common area in the dormitory I lived in. We all got restricted to the base for two weeks and I had a nice Spanish gf who was about to offer my the greatest of gifts three nights after that happened.

 
I'd like to know how the Incas built everything so perfectly square on the side of a mountain and with no mortar.
For Incan mysteries, I'm much more curious about the Nazca Lines
It probably served in part of a religious ceremony as a sort of temple. Instead of cramming hundreds or thousands of people into a building, they participated along the lines. Of course the lines (and then eventually drawings) had to be huge to accommodate large populations.
 
I'd like to know how the Incas built everything so perfectly square on the side of a mountain and with no mortar.
For Incan mysteries, I'm much more curious about the Nazca Lines
I've always been intrigued by that too. I'd also like to know how the Egyptians built the pyramids, and whether the three pyramids at Giza are meant to be lined up in such a way as to mimic Orion's belt.
Well it suggests construction would had to have been started in 10500 BC. Its possible. The site may not have originally been pyramids at all. Something else may have stood there back then. The area could have been slowly modified until finally they built pyramids there. Humans have done such things in history. For example when Constantinople was finally conquered by muslims, they demolished old christian temples to make way for muslim mosques.
 
I have been reading some very interesting takes on Roanoke. There are historians who are starting to say Roanoke was essentially written out of the history books to allow the folks up north to take all the credit for how we became America. You should look into it.
Haven't heard that but wouldn't put anything past the yankees and their revisionist history lessons (see Civil War)...but how would they disregard Jamestown as being before anything up north?
They didn't like that Jamestown is the first place representative democracy happened in America. Now they didn't declare independence but according to the latest research(and I am going strictly off memory) they had about everything else the founders would later claim for their own. It was an interesting look at how those in charge control history.
I don't understand the problem here. If you ask me the question "where is the first place representative democracy happened in America?" I would respond with "Why does it matter? Only someone with a very small mind would worry about such things."
Really?
Yes really. A small mind worries about wether representative democracy was started in Jamestown or New York or wherever. A large mind is more concerned with taking what we know about the process and implementing it to help future generations.
 
When I lived in Spain someone took a #### on the end table in the common area in the dormitory I lived in. We all got restricted to the base for two weeks and I had a nice Spanish gf who was about to offer my the greatest of gifts three nights after that happened.
And you'd like what mystery solved? Who was Mr. Dookie? What did he eat for breakfast that morning? Was your intended hook-up really planning on killing you and devouring your liver after the sexual escapade?
 
When I lived in Spain someone took a #### on the end table in the common area in the dormitory I lived in. We all got restricted to the base for two weeks and I had a nice Spanish gf who was about to offer my the greatest of gifts three nights after that happened.
And you'd like what mystery solved? Who was Mr. Dookie? What did he eat for breakfast that morning? Was your intended hook-up really planning on killing you and devouring your liver after the sexual escapade?
He just wants to know why she pooped on the table in order to get out of having to do him.
 
When I lived in Spain someone took a #### on the end table in the common area in the dormitory I lived in. We all got restricted to the base for two weeks and I had a nice Spanish gf who was about to offer my the greatest of gifts three nights after that happened.
And you'd like what mystery solved? Who was Mr. Dookie? What did he eat for breakfast that morning? Was your intended hook-up really planning on killing you and devouring your liver after the sexual escapade?
He just wants to know why she pooped on the table in order to get out of having to do him.
Hmmmm, good point. It's sort of like a squid spraying ink as a distractor before making its escape.
 
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I have been reading some very interesting takes on Roanoke. There are historians who are starting to say Roanoke was essentially written out of the history books to allow the folks up north to take all the credit for how we became America. You should look into it.
Haven't heard that but wouldn't put anything past the yankees and their revisionist history lessons (see Civil War)...but how would they disregard Jamestown as being before anything up north?
They didn't like that Jamestown is the first place representative democracy happened in America. Now they didn't declare independence but according to the latest research(and I am going strictly off memory) they had about everything else the founders would later claim for their own. It was an interesting look at how those in charge control history.
I don't understand the problem here. If you ask me the question "where is the first place representative democracy happened in America?" I would respond with "Why does it matter? Only someone with a very small mind would worry about such things."
Really?
Yes really. A small mind worries about wether representative democracy was started in Jamestown or New York or wherever. A large mind is more concerned with taking what we know about the process and implementing it to help future generations.
:bag: No sense in studying history. Let's just take everything at face value or accept that what has always been taught is correct. There is no need to research the past or uncover new information concerning what has happened before.
 

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