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Not at pick 4 i didnt. The later first sureI only want to trade the farm to move up if there is an obvious stud talent. Mariotta isnt that. Neither was anyone last year.
It's still going to cost you both #12 & #19 because it's Marriota and there will be other teams after him at that spot.amnesiac said:
I don't want Mariotta.
The only way I see that trade happening is if the other teams don't want to move up for Mariotta.
i did check the chart but thanks for confirming. and i agree, if they want Mariotta they will likely need to jump ahead of a few other teams which is why i chose the Jets, although the Redskins may want to move down after giving up so many picks in the RG3 trade.Bob Magaw said:
Why not just trade for RG3?
ghostguy123 said:
The stuff I have read about Bradford indicates he was unwilling to sign a long term deal with the Browns. Can't see us renting him for a year.ghostguy123 said:
We know that Washington would like to recoup some of the picks they blew on RG III deal that hasn't worked out for them.
We know that we tried to trade for QB Sam Bradford for the #19 pick 'allegedly'.
We know Chip loves QB Marcus Mariota but it would cost him his #20 pick his #52 pick and at least his 2016 first round pick and probably more to move-up and then what does he do with Bradford? Doesn't make sense with Bradford and too many draft picks to move-up.
What if Chip had gotten an offer from us for Bradford so he knows he use QB Sam Bradford and his #20 pick to move-up for our #12 pick and then he could complete a deal to move-up from the #12 pick for Mariota?
I'm not high on Bradford but it appears we made an offer of our #19 pick for him so if a deal like the above would go through we'd be sitting on back-to-back picks at #19 and #20 in the first round and would have addressed the QB position.
Myth.
Chip may actually like him and think he's getting in ahead of the market.
Kelly obviously likes Bradford because he not only traded a younger and less expensive QB who was successful and made the Pro Bowl after working very-well in his system but Chip hasn't denied he likes Mariota who would be, younger, cheaper, and who was hand picked by Chip to play in his offensive system.
The right move for the team is to go after a a QB who they think will be a stud, not waste valuable picks on guys to appease the fans.
I am fine with this also, but only if the top WRs are gone. And only if it nets us another 2016 1st.
I'm not following as well. The Browns conceivably may have the worst QB core in the NFL
I thought the sentences that followed explained the premise, but I'll try to clarify. McCown showed some competence in Chicago; had a few good games. Conner Shaw looked competent in his only opportunity last season. Even ThaddyLew was okay in his cameo. Johnny looked ridiculous throwing the goal line int, but didn't otherwise suck.
Brian Sipe. One great year without a playoff win and other decent to so-so years. Zero playoff victories
If I recall, my church was doing something that precluded me from watching the game live. I watched the tape later & wasn't as discouraged as most people. I still have it and will watch it again. I will indeed "report back" after I do so.amnesiac said:
maybe 10 years ago. but right now the rules seem to be so in favor of offense it seems like you need a top shelf QB to compete.
What wins continues to be offense that minimizes mistakes. This year was dominated by one team that outran everyone else and relied on its D, and another that dinked and dunked its way to a title.Teams worrying that they can't compete if they don't get the next Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning have their eyes on the stat column instead of the win one.
So all we have to do is hit on basically every draft pick, even 4th-7th rounders, retain those players through free agency, and win with a good but not great QB (that we still dont have)??
After Johnny's first start.
Every year there's someone who is over-hyped & over-drafted. Why did it have to be us???We drafted this guy?
Sigh...
From the media, local and national, just the headlines.
you're comparing Alex Smith to Tom Brady. is everyone in this thread trolling me at this point?
Sure they would. Rational? No, but most fans aren't rational; they're emotional. They'd realize it once he's gone because there are no in-house alternatives, but they don't want him right now. I don't blame them though. QB purgatory is worse than QB hell. At least in QB hell you're striving to be better. In QB purgatory you're accepting years of mediocrity knowing there's no payoff at the end.
I think Hoyer WAS that guy until things caved in on him. Josh Gordon's return cost us several int's and games. Alex Mack's injury hurt both the passing and running games. Defensive injuries put us behind in late-season games, making the intended run-oriented offense moot.
Watched the game again today, 4-14-15. I don't have much to add. JF$ looked like a rookie.
Chrissy should take a pill. Give the angry fan bit a rest forever as far as I'm concerned because we've seen the smartass comments and those who throw rocks and insults and they sure as hell haven't done a damn thing to help us win now have they?
