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Taking the Driver Out of the Car

Why robocars, and not high-speed rail, could revolutionize transportation in the next decade

by RANDAL O'TOOLE

'Your grandchildren will snap across the entire continent in 24 hours on a new kind of highway and in a new kind of driverless car that is controlled by the push of a button," futurist Norman Bel Geddes promised in 1940. Mr. Bel Geddes designed Futurama, the most popular exhibit at the 1939 New York World's Fair, which in many ways inspired the construction of the Interstate Highway System.

Driverless cars have so far remained the stuff of science fiction. Seventy years after Mr. Bel Geddes's promise, they are finally close to reality.

Consumers today can buy cars that steer themselves; accelerate and brake to maintain a safe driving distance from cars ahead; and detect and avoid collisions with other cars on all sides. Making them completely driverless will involve little more than a software upgrade.

Yet the potential for advanced personal mobility is being ignored in debates over surface transportation. These debates come to a head every six years, when Congress hashes out how to spend federal gas tax revenues. Congress has increasingly diverted the funds—$40 billion a year by last count—from highways to transit.

The Obama administration and House Transportation Committee Chairman James Oberstar (D., Minn.) want to go even further in the next reauthorization, now scheduled for 2011. The administration has focused on a new national high-speed rail system, as well as streetcars, light rail and other projects, to reduce driving and congestion.

Yet driverless cars could render the hand-wringing over roads versus rail needless. Driverless technologies were demonstrated in 1997 on a California freeway when eight cars without drivers successfully operated just one car length apart at 65 miles per hour. In 2007, six cars negotiated the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency Urban Challenge, following all traffic rules in an urban environment with other vehicles.

Volkswagen says enhanced global positioning systems can keep cars within two centimeters of their desired location on streets and highways. This summer, the company will demonstrate its technology by running a driverless Audi at racing speeds up the twisty Pikes Peak road.

At the 2007 event, General Motors vice president of research Lawrence Burns predicted that completely driverless cars would be on the market by 2018. He added that the primary obstacles were legal and bureaucratic, not technological.

Driverless vehicles offer huge advantages over current autos. Because computer reaction times are faster, driverless cars can safely operate more closely together, potentially tripling highway throughput. This will virtually eliminate congestion and reduce the need for new road construction.

Toyota's recent recalls naturally lead to worries that computer glitches could cause serious accidents. Since each car will be independently controlled, a failure in one would simply lead others to avoid that car. Modern cars already have numerous built-in computers that do things, such as anti-lock braking, far more reliably than humans, even those who are not texting or inebriated. Any serious problems could be quickly corrected through wireless software upgrades.

Driverless cars and trucks will be safer. They will also be greener, first by significantly reducing congestion, and eventually because vehicles will be lighter in weight due to reduced collision risks.

Perhaps most important, driverless vehicles will bring mobility to everyone, not just those able to pass a driver's test. While many people will still choose to own a car, increased numbers may rely on car sharing. Outside of ultra-high-density areas such as Manhattan, driverless cars will render urban transit and intercity passenger trains even more obsolete than they are today.

The American automobile fleet turns over every 18 years, so if Mr. Burns's prediction that driverless cars will hit the market by 2018 comes true, we could have a completely driverless system by 2036. State highway officials could accelerate this timetable by working with auto manufacturers to set standards and a transition path. State and local highway agencies could install wireless communication systems at major intersections and highways—a much less costly undertaking than building new roads, much less high-speed rail.

President Obama's so-called high-speed rail plan mostly consists of moderate-speed trains running at top speeds of 90 to 110 miles per hour, speeds attained by many railroads in the 1930s. This will attract few people out of their cars. The proposals for trains running at 160 to 220 miles per hour in California and Florida will cost at least 10 times as much to build as the 110-mph lines, but they are not likely to attract 10 times as many passengers.

As Burlington Northern Santa Fe CEO Matt Rose testified to Congress last April, building a national network of true high-speed rail lines would cost roughly $1 trillion, more than twice as much as the inflation-adjusted cost of the Interstate Highway System. While interstates paid for themselves out of gas taxes and other road user fees, all the capital and billions of dollars of annual operating costs of high-speed rail will be borne by general taxpayers, most of whom will rarely ride the trains.

America's population distribution makes passenger trains here less effective than in Europe or Japan. Yet even abroad, the average residents of France and Japan ride high-speed trains less than 400 miles per year, making up just 4% to 6% of all passenger travel.

France and Japan have each spent roughly as much per capita subsidizing their high-speed trains as we spent building our interstate highways. Yet the average American travels 10 times as many miles on the interstates as the average French or Japanese travel on high-speed trains.

Amtrak's high-speed Acela trains between Boston and Washington cover most of their operating (but not capital) costs. To do so, fares are some 10 times greater than many relatively unsubsidized bus services that carry about three times as many passengers in the northeast corridor as the Acela.

Claims that trains are environmentally friendly may apply to freight trains, but not passenger. A 50-ton railcar can carry 100 tons of cargo, making freight trains highly energy-efficient. However, a 50-ton passenger car carries only about 15 tons (170 people), and more typically carries about 2 to 3 tons (25 to 35 people), resulting in average weights per passenger that are several times greater than for cars or buses.

In January, Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood eliminated Federal Transit Administration requirements that federally funded streetcars and other rail transit be "cost effective" relative to buses. The FTA then funded costly streetcar projects in Dallas, Detroit, New Orleans and Tucson despite the fact that low-cost investments in traffic signal coordination, buses or many other projects would do far more to relieve congestion and improve mobility.

A return to rails would turn the clock back to a time when only the wealthy had access to easy mobility. The 19th century witnessed several amazing transportation breakthroughs, including steamboats, steam trains and electric streetcars. Yet in 1910 most Americans enjoyed little more personal mobility than they had 100 years prior. High fares for steamboats and passenger trains mainly limited such travel to the wealthy. Streetcars served only urban areas and were popular with the upper classes.

The revolution that finally brought mobility to the masses was Henry Ford's low-cost Model T, which most factory workers could afford. Since 1910, individual travel has grown from an average of about 3,000 to well over 18,000 miles per year. Cars contributed to a seven-fold increase in personal incomes.

Automobiles continue to maintain a huge cost advantage over passenger rail. Counting both subsidies and personal costs, Americans spend less than 25 cents a passenger mile on autos, nearly 60 cents a passenger mile on Amtrak, and more than 90 cents a passenger mile on urban transit. No wonder 85% of all our passenger travel is by automobile.

The call to spend hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies to build the world's finest, 1930s-era transportation network would benefit the wealthy and those willing to live and work in expensive quarters near rail stations.

In contrast, the driverless scenario relies on new technology, not old; and will largely be self-funded by users rather than paid out of tax dollars. Most important, driverless vehicles will bring mobility to almost everyone.
 
By the time Skynet became self-aware it had spread into millions of computer servers across the planet. Ordinary computers in office buildings, dorm rooms; everywhere. It was software; in cyberspace. There was no system core; it could not be shutdown. The attack began at 6:18 PM, just as he said it would.

 
By the time Skynet became self-aware it had spread into millions of computer servers across the planet. Ordinary computers in office buildings, dorm rooms; everywhere. It was software; in cyberspace. There was no system core; it could not be shutdown. The attack began at 6:18 PM, just as he said it would.
well, 2001: A Space Odyssey didn't happen in 2001.
 
Driverless technology will be the nation's next great leap forward and, while 2018 may be a little optimistic, it's not that far off. I'm personally in favor of a dual mode system where a massive guided railway infrastructure whisks your vehicle around the city and down the interstate at fast safe speeds.

Meanwhile, the Koreans are working on power strips embedded in the highway; this could be a huge breakthrough since batteries currently limit the range of most electric cars.

This isn't directly related to driverless technology but here's another company that's trying to use the highways to provide electric power. I think this idea should be incorporated into a larger personal transportation concept but I'm glad that someone is working on it nonetheless.

 
Inevitable, maybe, but it's really going to suck for those of us that just enjoy going out for a drive.

 
Inevitable, maybe, but it's really going to suck for those of us that just enjoy going out for a drive.
My uncle has a country placeThat no one knows about.He says it used to be a farm,Before the Motor Law.And on Sundays I elude the Eyes,And hop the Turbine FreightTo far outside the Wire,Where my white-haired uncle waits.Jump to the groundAs the Turbo slows to cross the Borderline.Run like the wind,As excitement shivers up and down my spine.Down in his barn,My uncle preserved for me an old machine,For fifty-odd years.To keep it as new has been his dearest dream.I strip away the old debrisThat hides a shining car.A brilliant red BarchettaFrom a better, vanished time.I fire up the willing engine,Responding with a roar.Tires spitting gravel,I commit my weekly crime...Wind-In my hair-Shifting and drifting-Mechanical music-Adrenalin surge...Well-weathered leather,Hot metal and oil,The scented country air.Sunlight on chrome,The blur of the landscape,Every nerve aware.Suddenly ahead of me,Across the mountainside,A gleaming alloy air-carShoots towards me, two lanes wide.I spin around with shrieking tires,To run the deadly race,Go screaming through the valleyAs another joins the chase.Drive like the wind,Straining the limits of machine and man.Laughing out loudWith fear and hope, I`ve got a desperate plan.At the one-lane bridgeI leave the giants stranded at the riverside.Race back to the farm, to dream with my uncle at the fireside
 
Inevitable, maybe, but it's really going to suck for those of us that just enjoy going out for a drive.
I imagine that the roads you enjoy going out for a drive on are not freeways, right? No way that this technology expands so far in our lifetime for it to replace all manual driving.
 
This isn't directly related to driverless technology but here's another company that's trying to use the highways to provide electric power. I think this idea should be incorporated into a larger personal transportation concept but I'm glad that someone is working on it nonetheless.
This appears to be a fascinating option. Here is a website that seems pretty compelling. They list quite a few benefits of a solar roadway, and I assume with it's embedded sensors it would not only easily mesh with automated traffic, but even augment the car's situational awareness. I'm sure there are some major drawbacks or problems that the website has ignored and I haven't thought of, but this looks amazing.
 
Inevitable, maybe, but it's really going to suck for those of us that just enjoy going out for a drive.
I imagine that the roads you enjoy going out for a drive on are not freeways, right? No way that this technology expands so far in our lifetime for it to replace all manual driving.
Right. Not in my lifetime. But at some point, joy riders are going to feel like the Amish feel when they're looking for a place to take a peaceful buggy ride.
 
Inevitable, maybe, but it's really going to suck for those of us that just enjoy going out for a drive.
I imagine that the roads you enjoy going out for a drive on are not freeways, right? No way that this technology expands so far in our lifetime for it to replace all manual driving.
Right. Not in my lifetime. But at some point, joy riders are going to feel like the Amish feel when they're looking for a place to take a peaceful buggy ride.
here we come
 
This isn't directly related to driverless technology but here's another company that's trying to use the highways to provide electric power. I think this idea should be incorporated into a larger personal transportation concept but I'm glad that someone is working on it nonetheless.
This appears to be a fascinating option. Here is a website that seems pretty compelling. They list quite a few benefits of a solar roadway, and I assume with it's embedded sensors it would not only easily mesh with automated traffic, but even augment the car's situational awareness. I'm sure there are some major drawbacks or problems that the website has ignored and I haven't thought of, but this looks amazing.
That is some cool ####.
 
This isn't directly related to driverless technology but here's another company that's trying to use the highways to provide electric power. I think this idea should be incorporated into a larger personal transportation concept but I'm glad that someone is working on it nonetheless.
This appears to be a fascinating option. Here is a website that seems pretty compelling. They list quite a few benefits of a solar roadway, and I assume with it's embedded sensors it would not only easily mesh with automated traffic, but even augment the car's situational awareness. I'm sure there are some major drawbacks or problems that the website has ignored and I haven't thought of, but this looks amazing.
I think our links are about the same company but, yeah, this has awesome potential. Especially if it can be incorporated to power not only our electric cars but use any surplus for the general grid as well.
 
Inevitable, maybe, but it's really going to suck for those of us that just enjoy going out for a drive.
I imagine that the roads you enjoy going out for a drive on are not freeways, right? No way that this technology expands so far in our lifetime for it to replace all manual driving.
Right. Not in my lifetime. But at some point, joy riders are going to feel like the Amish feel when they're looking for a place to take a peaceful buggy ride.
V, there's nothing I like better than a long road trip down some new asphalt, either, so I understand completely where you're coming from -- I've spent many an hour tooling around your woods, for example, which aren't very far from me. But the existing macadam is gonna be around for a while. And there might even be an added benefit: if most people are using the grid, the price of oil should at least stay stable so you'll be able to joyride to your heart's content.
 
I dunno, if just one thing with the computers went wrong, you'd have a disaster waiting to happen.
I don't think the software is conceptually different from internet routing. But, indeed, systemic failure is one of the reasons I advocate one-way elevated maglev railways instead of street level smart roads. If the system crashes, the vehicles just coast to a stop like bumper cars.Some very cool stuff going on.
 
I'm all for it, at least for highways/freeways.

with wireless in your car you could just sit back and surf the net, work, text, talk as much as you want without distracting you from - oh yeah - driving.

the roads are full of stupid people that shouldn't be behind the wheel. It's bad enough in town, but even worse on the major highways.

I love driving and riding my chopper - they're both relaxing and therapeutic, but I could see how this is the next trend in transportation.

What's next - teleportation, flying cars?

 
I'm all for it, at least for highways/freeways.with wireless in your car you could just sit back and surf the net, work, text, talk as much as you want without distracting you from - oh yeah - driving. the roads are full of stupid people that shouldn't be behind the wheel. It's bad enough in town, but even worse on the major highways. I love driving and riding my chopper - they're both relaxing and therapeutic, but I could see how this is the next trend in transportation.What's next - teleportation, flying cars?
Nobody ever wants to talk about the fact that we kill 40,000 of our fellow citizens every year on the highways. Damages from traffic accidents are estimated to cost the country over $200 billion every year. Add in another $200 billion in defense dividend and yet another $200B in operational savings and we're talking about an infrastructure investment that has too many payoffs not to seriously consider.
 
I'm all for it, at least for highways/freeways.with wireless in your car you could just sit back and surf the net, work, text, talk as much as you want without distracting you from - oh yeah - driving. the roads are full of stupid people that shouldn't be behind the wheel. It's bad enough in town, but even worse on the major highways. I love driving and riding my chopper - they're both relaxing and therapeutic, but I could see how this is the next trend in transportation.What's next - teleportation, flying cars?
Nobody ever wants to talk about the fact that we kill 40,000 of our fellow citizens every year on the highways. Damages from traffic accidents are estimated to cost the country over $200 billion every year. Add in another $200 billion in defense dividend and yet another $200B in operational savings and we're talking about an infrastructure investment that has too many payoffs not to seriously consider.
No more drunks or old people driving the wrong way on the highway at night = :rolleyes:
 
I dunno, if just one thing with the computers went wrong, you'd have a disaster waiting to happen.
I disagree - each car could/should have some pretty good redundancy built in to avoid crashes. Given that people's lives would be on the line, I imagine the engineering and programming will be much more failsafe than human driver error.
 
Inevitable, maybe, but it's really going to suck for those of us that just enjoy going out for a drive.
I imagine that the roads you enjoy going out for a drive on are not freeways, right? No way that this technology expands so far in our lifetime for it to replace all manual driving.
I highly disagree, unless you're pretty old. I think it's very possible to see computers driving our cars within 20 to 30 years. As the article mentions, the technology is there. At the very least, cars will have computer over-ride safety systems that take over breaking and steering to avoid crashes within a few years.
 
I'm all for it, at least for highways/freeways.with wireless in your car you could just sit back and surf the net, work, text, talk as much as you want without distracting you from - oh yeah - driving. the roads are full of stupid people that shouldn't be behind the wheel. It's bad enough in town, but even worse on the major highways. I love driving and riding my chopper - they're both relaxing and therapeutic, but I could see how this is the next trend in transportation.What's next - teleportation, flying cars?
Nobody ever wants to talk about the fact that we kill 40,000 of our fellow citizens every year on the highways. Damages from traffic accidents are estimated to cost the country over $200 billion every year. Add in another $200 billion in defense dividend and yet another $200B in operational savings and we're talking about an infrastructure investment that has too many payoffs not to seriously consider.
No more drunks or old people driving the wrong way on the highway at night = :goodposting:
Plus, if the system is pervasive enough, minimum age limits may be lowered. If the system gets as close as a quick walk to your driveway, your 12-year-old may be able to drive himself to Saturday morning soccer practice.Some models out there anticipate a system so encompassing that the vehicles will be governed at a maximum off-system speed of 40 mph because you'll always be within a couple of minutes of entering the gridway.
 
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The Germans are giving careful consideration to a robotocized system of cargo movers around their most heavily congested areas. Cargo Cap takes trucks off the highways, with all the affiliated savings in fuel, surface wear and driver time, and moves it underground where the computers do the routing and guidance.

What makes this particularly interesting is that, if it works with cargo, the next logical step is to convert people-carriers to the same kind of system, only elevated above ground instead.

 
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Taking the Driver Out of the Car

Why robocars, and not high-speed rail, could revolutionize transportation in the next decade

by RANDAL O'TOOLE

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Driverless vehicles offer huge advantages over current autos. Because computer reaction times are faster, driverless cars can safely operate more closely together, potentially tripling highway throughput. This will virtually eliminate congestion and reduce the need for new road construction.

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The things the computer can't do it anticipate. Can they see the deer on the side of the road and slow down? What if the car right in front of you hits one, will the computer in the car that is only a few feet behind be able to control things?I think we're still a ways off from truly driverless cars in real life settings.

 
The things the computer can't do it anticipate. Can they see the deer on the side of the road and slow down? What if the car right in front of you hits one, will the computer in the car that is only a few feet behind be able to control things?

I think we're still a ways off from truly driverless cars in real life settings.
There already exist cars that slow down when they get too close to the one in front of them.I don't think this kind of stuff is as tough as it may seem.

I like the SciFi short story - With Folded Hands

 
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LINK

Taking the Driver Out of the Car

Why robocars, and not high-speed rail, could revolutionize transportation in the next decade

by RANDAL O'TOOLE

<snip>

Driverless vehicles offer huge advantages over current autos. Because computer reaction times are faster, driverless cars can safely operate more closely together, potentially tripling highway throughput. This will virtually eliminate congestion and reduce the need for new road construction.

</snip>
The things the computer can't do it anticipate. Can they see the deer on the side of the road and slow down? What if the car right in front of you hits one, will the computer in the car that is only a few feet behind be able to control things?I think we're still a ways off from truly driverless cars in real life settings.
yeahif they want to they could count how many points it is, take a picutre, spray deer repellent, and slow down. All while downloading porn.

 
The things the computer can't do it anticipate. Can they see the deer on the side of the road and slow down? What if the car right in front of you hits one, will the computer in the car that is only a few feet behind be able to control things?

I think we're still a ways off from truly driverless cars in real life settings.
There already exist cars that slow down when they get too close to the one in front of them.I don't think this kind of stuff is as tough as it may seem.

I like the SciFi short story - With Folded Hands
I'm talking about an accident situation. they are talking about the ability to stack the cars very close together at highway speeds. If a tire blows and the car careens around on the road will even a computer be able to react? Seems like the lawsuits would flow.
 
I'm talking about an accident situation. they are talking about the ability to stack the cars very close together at highway speeds. If a tire blows and the car careens around on the road will even a computer be able to react? Seems like the lawsuits would flow.
I'm guessing that the cars will be networked together somehow so that if a tire blows in the car in front, the car behind knows about it in less than an instant since they're essentially one car.And the reaction time of a machine is nearly instantaneous. I have no doubt a computer would be able to react.
 
I think dedicated and elevated railways would be the safest system. One way traffic, computer controlled, stacked close together for maximum efficiency. You don't have to go very fast to be faster than current traffic if you never have to stop. Save the existing roadways for localized traffic between railway access points. And look at porn while you're traveling.

 
Volkswagen says enhanced global positioning systems can keep cars within two centimeters of their desired location on streets and highways. This summer, the company will demonstrate its technology by running a driverless Audi at racing speeds up the twisty Pikes Peak road.
“I drove my ####### car into a lake. Why, you may ask did I do this? Well, because of a machine (looks at Ryan). A machine told me to drive into a lake. And I did it. I did it because I trusted Ryan’s precious technology. And look where it got me?….I tell you one thing, those gift baskets never endangered anybody else’s life.”
 
I think dedicated and elevated railways would be the safest system. One way traffic, computer controlled, stacked close together for maximum efficiency. You don't have to go very fast to be faster than current traffic if you never have to stop. Save the existing roadways for localized traffic between railway access points. And look at porn while you're traveling.
My initial thought was that this wouldn't get accepted since people like the freedom to speed above the speed limit. But, you're right, most of the traffic that exists today is due to people driving like idiots and this would be greatly reduced with a computer system. I would imagine things would get done faster with driverless... esp if there is a whimsical Howdy Doody driver like in Total Recall.
 
If this ever happens, I'm buying an RV, or at the very least, a Van with a bed in the back so I can sleep during my commute to work.

 
Discovery Channel ran a Mega Engineering episode yesterday called Personal Pods which was about driverless car systems. Anybody know where to track down a re-run of that? I only caught the last 35 minutes but it was way cool.

 
I think dedicated and elevated railways would be the safest system. One way traffic, computer controlled, stacked close together for maximum efficiency. You don't have to go very fast to be faster than current traffic if you never have to stop. Save the existing roadways for localized traffic between railway access points. And look at porn while you're traveling.
:mellow: I think you should be named the new Transportation Czar. Might have to change your name, though.
 
The things the computer can't do it anticipate. Can they see the deer on the side of the road and slow down? What if the car right in front of you hits one, will the computer in the car that is only a few feet behind be able to control things?
Actually, from everything I read about this back in the late 90's, they would be much better equipped to handle things like this than a human driver. Vehicles would be in constant communication with each other while constantly surveying the areas around them. If a deer were to jump in the road not only would it apply the breaks much faster than a human would, it would instantly instruct nearby vehicles to slow down as well.
 
I think dedicated and elevated railways would be the safest system. One way traffic, computer controlled, stacked close together for maximum efficiency. You don't have to go very fast to be faster than current traffic if you never have to stop. Save the existing roadways for localized traffic between railway access points. And look at porn while you're traveling.
My initial thought was that this wouldn't get accepted since people like the freedom to speed above the speed limit. But, you're right, most of the traffic that exists today is due to people driving like idiots and this would be greatly reduced with a computer system. I would imagine things would get done faster with driverless... esp if there is a whimsical Howdy Doody driver like in Total Recall.
It won't be long until they discover that drivin' ain't freedom. Driving is work. Driving is responsibility. Letting the computer take over means that we can drink beer and surf this bored on our way home from work. Yes, commutes to work should be faster; intermediate trips of maybe up to 400 miles should be, too. The system will pack your pod in to a spot six inches off the rear bumper of the pod in front of you and pack another pod that close behind you. One railway will handle about eight lanes of interstate traffic. And it'll be powered by electricity instead of oil.

 
I think dedicated and elevated railways would be the safest system. One way traffic, computer controlled, stacked close together for maximum efficiency. You don't have to go very fast to be faster than current traffic if you never have to stop. Save the existing roadways for localized traffic between railway access points. And look at porn while you're traveling.
:goodposting: I think you should be named the new Transportation Czar. Might have to change your name, though.
I like this stuff WAY too much. :goodposting:
 
The Heathrow system appears to be very nice and efficient and I'm a big fan. Maybe its biggest contribution is in getting people comfortable with driverless technology.Overall, though, I'm a dual-mode guy instead of a PRT guy. I think the best system is where everybody owns their own pod, which they drive to the nearest guideway onramp and lock on to the system. This maximizes individual convenience while still burning far less fuel AND is our best bet towards alleviating the congestion choking our major cities now.

 
2018 is crazy talk
Agreed. But with transportation systems continuing to lag behind technological improvements in other walks of life, I think ideas like the ones floated in this thread will rise steadily to the forefront. Anyone who sits in traffic twice daily on their commute or who has battled the mobs heading to the beach on a summer weekend will be amenable to some new ideas.The Heathrow people-mover and the German cargo-mover could be paving the way for more investment in this kind of infrastructure if they work well and save money. I'm pretty optimistic about both those projects.
 
I think dedicated and elevated railways would be the safest system. One way traffic, computer controlled, stacked close together for maximum efficiency. You don't have to go very fast to be faster than current traffic if you never have to stop. Save the existing roadways for localized traffic between railway access points. And look at porn while you're traveling.
My initial thought was that this wouldn't get accepted since people like the freedom to speed above the speed limit. But, you're right, most of the traffic that exists today is due to people driving like idiots and this would be greatly reduced with a computer system. I would imagine things would get done faster with driverless... esp if there is a whimsical Howdy Doody driver like in Total Recall.
It won't be long until they discover that drivin' ain't freedom. Driving is work. Driving is responsibility. Letting the computer take over means that we can drink beer and surf this bored on our way home from work. Yes, commutes to work should be faster; intermediate trips of maybe up to 400 miles should be, too. The system will pack your pod in to a spot six inches off the rear bumper of the pod in front of you and pack another pod that close behind you. One railway will handle about eight lanes of interstate traffic. And it'll be powered by electricity instead of oil.
This is where it gets me. I don't care how fast the computer is, if the lead "pod" has something happen where it wipes out the physics involved will cause a massive wreck, the pod that is six inches behind isn't going to be able to stop in time.
 
I think dedicated and elevated railways would be the safest system. One way traffic, computer controlled, stacked close together for maximum efficiency. You don't have to go very fast to be faster than current traffic if you never have to stop. Save the existing roadways for localized traffic between railway access points. And look at porn while you're traveling.
My initial thought was that this wouldn't get accepted since people like the freedom to speed above the speed limit. But, you're right, most of the traffic that exists today is due to people driving like idiots and this would be greatly reduced with a computer system. I would imagine things would get done faster with driverless... esp if there is a whimsical Howdy Doody driver like in Total Recall.
It won't be long until they discover that drivin' ain't freedom. Driving is work. Driving is responsibility. Letting the computer take over means that we can drink beer and surf this bored on our way home from work. Yes, commutes to work should be faster; intermediate trips of maybe up to 400 miles should be, too. The system will pack your pod in to a spot six inches off the rear bumper of the pod in front of you and pack another pod that close behind you. One railway will handle about eight lanes of interstate traffic. And it'll be powered by electricity instead of oil.
This is where it gets me. I don't care how fast the computer is, if the lead "pod" has something happen where it wipes out the physics involved will cause a massive wreck, the pod that is six inches behind isn't going to be able to stop in time.
Well, people ride in 200 mph bullet trains now so either the same danger exists (multiplied by mass and speed) or engineers have figured out how to lock the cars onto the railways pretty securely. I foresee the power emanating from the rails themselves so if a power loss occurs to one, it occurs to all the pods in the platoon.
 

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