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No. I am not saying that you would or would not be able to do it. I am saying that you have no idea if you would or would not be able to do it, particularly if you had lived the same 22 years that Manziel had.
Either way, even if everything you are saying is 100% correct (which it is not but I will humor you), it doesnt matter because the reality of it is that JF is a screw up, can not follow simple rules, is very immature (dude parties like a 13 year old), and is a buffoon.
If I lived the same 22 years had, I am confident I would still have been able to avoid flying to Texas and party on camera after my coach specifically told me not to. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
I don't disagree with your conclusion but you speak from a position of fact when you don't have enough information to do so. From the information we have we can only formulate opinion, yours may be right, I think it likely is the difference is that I am not stating it as a fact.
Just curious, but what would you need to have sitting in front of you to be able accept any of these as "facts"? Serious question.
Because there is no way to know that despite your protestations otherwise.
More time. The full story will likely come out eventually, it typically does. It may not be likely but it is possible that Pettine may be holding Manziel to a different standard than he does other players. It is possible that he feels Manziel was forced upon him and he is not invested in seeing him succeed so he can be proven right. I don't know if that is plausible but it is very possible. We don't know. Egos are enormous in that industry and not just with the players (anyone think Belichick doesn't think he is the smartest guy in football?). But all that video showed was some champagne karaoke from a player on his bye week coming off his best game (350+ yards, 73+% completions on 45 attempts, 8+ yards per attempt a TD and a Pick). It feels like a hair trigger on Pettine's part.
You wouldn't need his exact same brain. All you would need is for your nascent brain to be developed with his exact experiences (or very similar ones). You keep viewing it from the perspective of your (almost) fully realized brain and applying that to what you know of him. You're comparing apples to space ships.
All we see on that video is Johnny doing exactly what he was told not to do. Why are you not getting that part?? And this isn't even strike 3, it is like strike 14
Would you please post the transcript of what he was told to do an not to do? I must have missed that one.
You must not have much experience with party.
The bottom line here is that the best players need to set an example for others. If your qb is not your best player or close to it your team is screwed. So having the qb portray a party boy image is detrimental to the team culture. There is no way it can work. We all know he was warned many times. In layman's terms we call it 'the straw that broke the camel's back'.
I don't think JM is in the program. Why? I could not say, But that is probably the reason. Once you are in the drug protocol, you get surprise visits all the time.
I sort of had that same thought. Not sure why any true Browns fan would want to see them trotting out a what, 36 year old, QB that clearly isn't the future rather than seeing what they have in their first round pick from last year? McCown is a known commodity, you have tons of film to know exactly what you have with him. I guess they would prefer that wonderful 4-12 record rather than see what they have in JF. Odd.It's funny how Browns fans think Manziel is the reason their losing
One more thing that's too bad about this is we'll not get to see the football questions answered. We heard so many arguments about what Johnny was or was not going to be able to do. I wanted to see those play out.
Ditto, I really was curious to see that.
This really is the relevant part.
Gee, why would Clev be upset about this at all?
always more to the story than first comes out. Wonder if his apologists will still say he's just a typical 23 year old
If true, it just goes to show he knows he shouldn't have been there doing what he was doing.
I'd take a 3rd or 4th and run like hell. But Farmer isn't smart enough to pull that off. and we're past the trade deadline.
there's a chance it's seriously soon.
I agree that throughout NFL history hundreds of players have gotten away with far worse than Manziel but let's be honest, while he may be talented Manziel doesn't have anywhere near the arm talent that Brett Favre did.
ehh, alcohol is pretty damn hard to wake up from. in fact, in my experience, which is just about every drug and every means of ingestion, alcohol still takes the top spot for worst mornings.
Umm...Favre doesn't even come close to Johnny in the area of knucklehead. Let's do a comparison if Johnny ends up playing more than 20 years.
