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Scientology's "The Hole" - had you heard about this? (1 Viewer)

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Binky The Doormat

Binky The Doormat

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I have done zero research on Scientology so I only know the odds and ends picked up through the general media and internet comments. You know, the leaders coming from outer space, etc.

L. Ron Hubbard apparently had a bunch of boats on the Mediterranean in the 60s where they bound people and threw overboard. The current leader nows picks up a similar practice at a place they call "The Hole" out in some place out in Riverside County, CA. WTF??

How can this kind of place exist in this country?

This current guy, David Miscavige, needs to be to have his ### kicked repeatedly.

The Hole

 
I think there is a Scienoterrorist thread here somewhere with a story of a guy escaping from The Hole and telling all.

 
"The Hole" does not exist. It is a made up thing by the mainstream media. The accounts from the likes of Rathbun and De Vocht are made up. Those guys and others are mad due to the way they live. They will pay.

 
Drive by one of their apartment complexes every day. Cameras EVERYWHERE. Secure gates. Looks like nobody can have a car. The word is that a bus comes every day and shuttles all the residents off to work/church/whatever. I've seen the bus in the parking lot a few times.

Very weird and creepy.

 
I'm surprised that Scientology hasn't collapsed under its own idiocy or, that the gov't hasn't been able to force it to collapse due to tax fraud.

 
B-Deep said:
I love how hubbard told someone how awesome it would be to start a religion, and then did

it's like babe ruth calling his shots
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Hubbard has been quoted as telling a science fiction convention in 1948: "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion."
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L. Sprague de Camp wrote to Isaac Asimov on August 27, 1946, to tell him:The more complete story of Hubbard is that he is now in Fla. living on his yacht with a man-eating tigress named Betty-alias-Sarah, another of the same kind ... He will probably soon thereafter arrive in these parts with Betty-Sarah, broke, working the poor-wounded-veteran racket for all its worth, and looking for another easy mark. Don't say you haven't been warned. Bob [Robert Heinlein] thinks Ron went to pieces morally as a result of the war. I think that's fertilizer, that he always was that way, but when he wanted to conciliate or get something from somebody he could put on a good charm act. What the war did was to wear him down to where he no longer bothers with the act.
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Premier said:
Drive by one of their apartment complexes every day. Cameras EVERYWHERE. Secure gates. Looks like nobody can have a car. The word is that a bus comes every day and shuttles all the residents off to work/church/whatever. I've seen the bus in the parking lot a few times.

Very weird and creepy.
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They have their own apartment complexes? That is odd
 
I thought this religion was crazy wealthy, why are they duck taping double-wides together to make office buildings?

 
Binky The Doormat said:
gump said:
Binky The Doormat said:
Any attorneys thoughts on how the hell this encampment can exist in this country (and not be run by the government ...at least :) )
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There is a case being worked on that would bury them for good...I'm hoping that's why the govt isn't pursuing these 'smaller' issues.
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Can you give us a link Gump?
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He is probably talking about the forced abortion charges. It looks like a court made the Scientologists give up a bunch of records lately and some people have come forward to verify that forced abortions were a thing. Unfortunately for Scientology the one that may stick involves an underage(at the time) girl.

 
flapgreen said:
Premier said:
Drive by one of their apartment complexes every day. Cameras EVERYWHERE. Secure gates. Looks like nobody can have a car. The word is that a bus comes every day and shuttles all the residents off to work/church/whatever. I've seen the bus in the parking lot a few times.

Very weird and creepy.
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They have their own apartment complexes? That is odd
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Quite a few of them. Where else are you going to hold all these folks?

 
The church of Scientology has a few nice cigar factory renovations in Tampa. One is in ybor & the other is in west Tampa. They keep the properties up & the buildings look nice, and that is much more than some of the churches in the area do.

 
Premier said:
flapgreen said:
Premier said:
Drive by one of their apartment complexes every day. Cameras EVERYWHERE. Secure gates. Looks like nobody can have a car. The word is that a bus comes every day and shuttles all the residents off to work/church/whatever. I've seen the bus in the parking lot a few times.

Very weird and creepy.
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They have their own apartment complexes? That is odd
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Quite a few of them. Where else are you going to hold all these folks?
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I knew it was a weird organization but not weird enough to have to herd them into locked compounds. Tom Cruise and Travolta are the people I most associate with them. Geez. This is like the Waco thing.
 
flapgreen said:
Premier said:
flapgreen said:
Premier said:
Drive by one of their apartment complexes every day. Cameras EVERYWHERE. Secure gates. Looks like nobody can have a car. The word is that a bus comes every day and shuttles all the residents off to work/church/whatever. I've seen the bus in the parking lot a few times.

Very weird and creepy.
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They have their own apartment complexes? That is odd
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Quite a few of them. Where else are you going to hold all these folks?
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I knew it was a weird organization but not weird enough to have to herd them into locked compounds. Tom Cruise and Travolta are the people I most associate with them. Geez. This is like the Waco thing.
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It's really nuts. They're are 4-5 giant cameras on long poles on the complex I drive by. Busses are super black tint. :shrug:

 
Quez said:
The church of Scientology has a few nice cigar factory renovations in Tampa. One is in ybor & the other is in west Tampa. They keep the properties up & the buildings look nice, and that is much more than some of the churches in the area do.
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So these cigar factories, do you know if they pay taxes?

 
Binky The Doormat said:
I have done zero research on Scientology so I only know the odds and ends picked up through the general media and internet comments. You know, the leaders coming from outer space, etc.

L. Ron Hubbard apparently had a bunch of boats on the Mediterranean in the 60s where they bound people and threw overboard. The current leader nows picks up a similar practice at a place they call "The Hole" out in some place out in Riverside County, CA. WTF??

How can this kind of place exist in this country?

This current guy, David Miscavige, needs to be to have his ### kicked repeatedly.

The Hole
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Never heard of SeaOrg throwing people overboard but they do some crazy physical and psychological torture. It's a full on cult, probably the biggest in America's history, and I have no idea how they don't have more members arrested. I think they are probably using tons of the celebrity money to buy off raids or something.

 
Clifford said:
Binky The Doormat said:
I have done zero research on Scientology so I only know the odds and ends picked up through the general media and internet comments. You know, the leaders coming from outer space, etc.

L. Ron Hubbard apparently had a bunch of boats on the Mediterranean in the 60s where they bound people and threw overboard. The current leader nows picks up a similar practice at a place they call "The Hole" out in some place out in Riverside County, CA. WTF??

How can this kind of place exist in this country?

This current guy, David Miscavige, needs to be to have his ### kicked repeatedly.

The Hole
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Never heard of SeaOrg throwing people overboard but they do some crazy physical and psychological torture. It's a full on cult, probably the biggest in America's history, and I have no idea how they don't have more members arrested. I think they are probably using tons of the celebrity money to buy off raids or something.
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I've heard that they spend even more money on lawyers than the Catholic Church.

 
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