Donnybrook
Footballguy
Well he shouldn't because all 32 teams would have done the same thing. Lets not forget that 32 teams treated La'el Collins like he had the plague while he was being investigated for murder.Pots said:
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Pots
Footballguy
I highly doubt all 32 teams would have done the same thing. I know the Cowboys wouldn't have, one of the reasons why he was so enamored with playing there.
daveR
Footballguy
So, he wants guaranteed money. He already HAS his guaranteed money! The rest is incentives.
The reason he got a contract that pays so much, is for production on the field, going forward. Just do it and the money is yours. How tough is that to accept?
His $86,000,000 contract is higher than the next two highest combined. If he holds up his end, they will hold up theirs.
The reason he got a contract that pays so much, is for production on the field, going forward. Just do it and the money is yours. How tough is that to accept?
His $86,000,000 contract is higher than the next two highest combined. If he holds up his end, they will hold up theirs.
daveR
Footballguy
Pots
Footballguy
daveR
Footballguy
It sounds like you are saying the Cowboys would give him a new big guaranteed contract, like he wants. They would not.
Pots
Footballguy
That wasn't the issue last season. That's the issue that he wants resolved after not being traded and being stuck with a team that didn't back him at all last season.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
So his widdle feewings is hurt? Poor baby. He's the real victim here.
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Pots
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Feel free to ignore sabertooth in every thread you wont miss anytbingPots said:
Pots
Footballguy
Heatman
Footballguy
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Amen.
All these guys that think the leageue owes them long, guaranteed contracts are bewildering to me. If you believe you are one of the best players at your position in the league you should be champing at the bit to reach the open market. Makes me wonder if guys like Peterson/Weddle are having doubts about their ability to hold up physically if they are this bent out of shape about having to go out on the field and earn their huge salaries. These guys aren't being underpaid by any measure.
Makes me want to root for the AJ Green's in the league that realize if they just go out and perform like a top player they will get handsomely compensated. The money will be there when you are one of the best.
CR69
Footballguy
Exactly.
I don't think he's wrong about the guaranteed contracts, but it has nothing to do with his current situation.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Lots of people seem to be ignoring the fact that a new contract could be beneficial to both sides. But the Vikings seem to be hell-bent on paying Peterson his full salary this year, which really makes no sense. This could have been a perfect opportunity for the Vikings to use their leverage to restructure the deal in their favor, yet they would rather pay Peterson out of spite.
The Vikings and their supporters should be asking themselves: "What would Bill Belichick do?" Do you think Belichick would give Peterson $13 million dollars at age 30? Hell no. He'd either cut Peterson, trade Peterson, or force Peterson to restructure his contract. The fact that the Vikings aren't even attempting to do any of those things is proof that the Vikings are once again behaving like the perennial bottomfeeders that they are.
If Peterson gets injured and/or the Vikings have another losing season, then this entire gamble will have been a total failure.
scott46984
Footballguy
I think it makes perfect sense if the Vikings feel they are fine on cap space for this season and are willing to see how it plays out rather than trying to escalate the situation by asking him to take a pay cut. If he plays like the old AP they're happy. If he's not worth the money in 2015, they cut him or negotiate down for 2016. Seems logical to me.
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Donnybrook
Footballguy
Dude you are pretty fickle. First you are saying that the Vikings betrayed Peterson by putting him on the exemption list. Now you are saying they because they are not cutting, trading or forcing him to restructure they are behaving like bottom feeders. Wouldn't that be betraying Peterson's trust? Lots of teams like the Pack do not renegotiate contracts until the players are in their final year. Does that make them bottom feeders as well?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
It keeps their cap clean though to just pay him the money. The Packers did this with Charles Woodson. Paid him huge salary his first few years. Of course there was a lot of trust there. If they don't need, and can't use, the cap space, it makes more sense to do what they are doing. Say they free up 5m this year, what can they do with it?
If Peterson gets injured, then the Vikings are going to be kicking themselves for not guaranteeing him a bunch of money? Really?
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
The big baby is reporting today.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Adrian Peterson has returned to the Vikings and will attend Tuesday's OTAs.
The Vikings played hardball with Peterson and predictably won as he was never going to leave $12.75M on the table. "Basically it's time for me to come in and test the waters and re-familiarize myself with our offense and the direction they're trying to go in," he told ESPN's Josina Anderson. So all the drama over Peterson feeling scorned by the organization and wanting his 2016 contract guaranteed was just hot air. The Vikings did not adjust his deal. Coming off a year of rest and in a RB-friendly Norv Turner offense, Peterson is firmly in the top-5 fantasy pick discussion. NFL Network's Albert Breer said Tuesday the Vikings' offensive staff sees Peterson as a "350-carry centerpiece."
The Vikings played hardball with Peterson and predictably won as he was never going to leave $12.75M on the table. "Basically it's time for me to come in and test the waters and re-familiarize myself with our offense and the direction they're trying to go in," he told ESPN's Josina Anderson. So all the drama over Peterson feeling scorned by the organization and wanting his 2016 contract guaranteed was just hot air. The Vikings did not adjust his deal. Coming off a year of rest and in a RB-friendly Norv Turner offense, Peterson is firmly in the top-5 fantasy pick discussion. NFL Network's Albert Breer said Tuesday the Vikings' offensive staff sees Peterson as a "350-carry centerpiece."
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
B-Deep
Footballguy
least suprising news ever
ok, maybe a bit surprised he did not cary on this charade a bit longer, but from the start this was the only end point he had.
i wonder if people still think he's going to half-### it to prove his point (here's a hint, 0 chance of that)
BOLD Prediction - Pedestrian season for an old RB, he gets cut next year, people claim his bad season was because of the distractions, someone overpays him for another pedestrian season...
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ok, maybe a bit surprised he did not cary on this charade a bit longer, but from the start this was the only end point he had.
i wonder if people still think he's going to half-### it to prove his point (here's a hint, 0 chance of that)
BOLD Prediction - Pedestrian season for an old RB, he gets cut next year, people claim his bad season was because of the distractions, someone overpays him for another pedestrian season...
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snogger
Footballguy
Short of an injury I don't see Peterson having a pedestrian season.. He actually has an Offense behind him now with Teddy, Wallace, etc..
Defense's can no longer put 8 in the box and dare the Vikings to throw as they proved lat year they can do that if needed..
B-Deep
Footballguy
Father time will catch up to him, it always doesShort of an injury I don't see Peterson having a pedestrian season.. He actually has an Offense behind him now with Teddy, Wallace, etc..
Defense's can no longer put 8 in the box and dare the Vikings to throw as they proved lat year they can do that if needed..
odds are it does not happen yet, but it may!
Old Smiley
Footballguy
He'll be fine. Looking forward to watching Vikes this year. Lookout NFC north, I say.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I agree. But injuries are more common as players get older. His injury risk is not insignificant.Short of an injury I don't see Peterson having a pedestrian season.. He actually has an Offense behind him now with Teddy, Wallace, etc..
Defense's can no longer put 8 in the box and dare the Vikings to throw as they proved lat year they can do that if needed..
skol asylum
Footballguy
Sounds like he said all the right things today. Wish he would have done that months ago.
Heatman
Footballguy
To some of us it was not shocking at all. Those of you who thought he would actually retire or sit out watch way too much ESPN.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Kiss and make up completed, nothing more to see here
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
So, nothing much left here other than to wait and see what he has on the field. I'm guessing he will be more or less his old self. As a Packer fan that means I am going to have to watch him run over my guys. Its always frustrating, but in the end he has never been enough to really dash my hopes. He gets his yards and the Packers get the win.
Now this year with Bridgewater maybe progressing, and maybe being the real thing I am sure Vikes fans hope for a changing of the guard. Time will tell. I wonder if the Packers will have Guion on the field to help try to control Peterson, or whether he will be in Goodell's doghouse when they meet up.
Now this year with Bridgewater maybe progressing, and maybe being the real thing I am sure Vikes fans hope for a changing of the guard. Time will tell. I wonder if the Packers will have Guion on the field to help try to control Peterson, or whether he will be in Goodell's doghouse when they meet up.
GregR
Footballguy
Andrew Brandt on guaranteed contracts and Peterson's tweets. http://mmqb.si.com/2015/06/04/nfl-rookie-contracts-cba-agents/
scott46984
Footballguy
Most of these guys took the over, and I agree. I'd say 1400-1600 is more likely, perhaps more if the OL and Bridgewater are better.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
I think many are overlooking the impact that Wallace will have on this offense...his vertical presence is going to be huge - something Peterson hasn't had since he has been in Minnesota.
mr roboto
Footballguy
That Sidney Rice flukey year with Harvin and AP. But yeah AP has played most of his career without a legitimate deep threat and without an above average QB (2009 notwithstanding).
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I think he's around 1400 this year.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Defenses aren't going to care about Wallace until Teddy proves he can get him the ball deep
Uncle Grandpa
Footballguy
http://vikingsjournal.com/_/minnesota-vikings-news/minnesota-vikings/can-teddy-bridgewater-be-drew-brees-r331
"Though he hasn't been as accurate as Brees this year (or in big years for Brees—2009 and 2011), his 46.3 percent accuracy rate matches Brees' early efforts on shots 20 yards or more downfield. That it improved over the course of the year (over the last five weeks, it was the second-most accurate deep ball in the NFL, behind Matt Ryan), it's still an issue Bridgewater must be cognizant of."
rockaction
Footballguy
I think the big news in that blurb is that Matt Ryan throws the most accurate deep ball in the NFL. Four years ago, he was nearly dead last. He was behind Tebow.
I know, because I had Pro Football Focus and he was my fantasy quarterback. I wonder how much of this is Julio Jones.
eta* He was also historically bad in 2009, according to Football Outsiders's DVOA deep ball ratings. When Football Outsiders wrote their article about Ryan, they also wondered about Julio Jones and Ryan's newfound proficiency. Could be that Roddy and Harry Douglas were awful deep ball receivers or route-runners. What we do know is that Ryan shows up badly on deep balls in different years.
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Old Smiley
Footballguy
One thing Waldman said about Teddy when he was coming out, was that his school used a kind of inverted set of reads, ie: as opposed to the way most schemes work, in that system the QB would read shallow to deep. Therefore, Teddy was always mechanically rushed on his deep throws. Thought it was an interesting point.
However, Greg Cosell, still says it's not a great arm. "Looks like a waiter holding a tray." or some such.
Always something to watch for in the ENN EFF ELL
However, Greg Cosell, still says it's not a great arm. "Looks like a waiter holding a tray." or some such.
Always something to watch for in the ENN EFF ELL
