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Some Republicans want to cancel State of the Union? (1 Viewer)
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TheAristocrat
Footballguy
I think Congress should invite Kige Ramsey to deliver the State of the Union.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Both sides do it, so..
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
You don't remember Pelosi standing guard keeping W out?Maelstrom said:
GrandpaRox
Footballguy
They just don't request that he does not get one.
It is not his right. All he does is turn it political. It is no State of the Union anymore. Obama turned it into a political agenda speech. I absolutely would not invite him to give the opportunity.Todd Andrews said:
GrandpaRox
Footballguy
He has denigrated the office to this level. #### him, like he says elections have consequences, which he conveniently ignored. Another Republican pickup for the Senate yesterday. 
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Is there a downside?bigbottom said:
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I think this is counterproductive, but, as Bigbottom mentions were it done out of prudence, might be wise. I mean I know they keep back a few lower cabinet members in the chain of succession, but this may be prudent. Out of Petulance-no, out of prudence- perhaps.
What these "Statesmen" forget is that the President's bully pulpit is huge. It is not as if he could not give the address. He could simply do so from any historic venue in the Whitehouse. The press would cover it, hell they would eat it up in anticipation of whether he would mention the change of venue. If he rose above the fray and did not even mention the change it would make Congress, correction, those members of Congress who pushed this, look very weak and petulant. He would gut them. Then, when done, he could have a copy of the speech delivered by Marine courier to the doors of Congress.
What they ought to do is welcome him with more pomp, circumstance, and more expectation than any President ever. They ought to be unfailingly polite and proper. They ought to build expectation that the message will mark an era of cooperation. Then, if the President failed to deliver that cooperation they might, might, gain some leverage.
You have to love these guys. They reason that if they blow their brains out the President might get some schmaltz on his suit. That will show him.
What these "Statesmen" forget is that the President's bully pulpit is huge. It is not as if he could not give the address. He could simply do so from any historic venue in the Whitehouse. The press would cover it, hell they would eat it up in anticipation of whether he would mention the change of venue. If he rose above the fray and did not even mention the change it would make Congress, correction, those members of Congress who pushed this, look very weak and petulant. He would gut them. Then, when done, he could have a copy of the speech delivered by Marine courier to the doors of Congress.
What they ought to do is welcome him with more pomp, circumstance, and more expectation than any President ever. They ought to be unfailingly polite and proper. They ought to build expectation that the message will mark an era of cooperation. Then, if the President failed to deliver that cooperation they might, might, gain some leverage.
You have to love these guys. They reason that if they blow their brains out the President might get some schmaltz on his suit. That will show him.
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GrandpaRox
Footballguy
He can use the extra time to figure out how to get more Americans killed. One thousand,six hundred, fifty seven (1657), in Afghanistan alone since Dear Leader took office.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
US military deaths are down by about 60% since Obama took office. Sounds like he used all his extra time to figure out how to get fewer Americans killed.
timschochet
Footballguy
What a joke.
GrandpaRox
Footballguy
Wont have to sit there and watch him say how he is listening to the 66% of the Americans that DID NOT vote, we don't have to watch him stand there and chastise the Supreme Court.
The most truthful of any of his State of the Unions was when Rep. Joe Wilson interrupted Obama during a Sept. 9, 2009, speech to a joint session of Congress. As Obama was saying health care reform would not cover illegal immigrants, Wilson shouted, “You lie!”
The only truth you will hear at one of these.
GrandpaRox
Footballguy
Not in Afghanistan. Why we even there?US military deaths are down by about 60% since Obama took office. Sounds like he used all his extra time to figure out how to get fewer Americans killed.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Obviously you didn't pay attention to what I wrote, so I'll ask it again: How would such a move benefit the Republican party?
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Chasing Al Qaeda, but doing it in a way that results in fewer Americans dying than during the Bush years.Not in Afghanistan. Why we even there?US military deaths are down by about 60% since Obama took office. Sounds like he used all his extra time to figure out how to get fewer Americans killed.
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GrandpaRox
Footballguy
Benefits the American people, don't have to listen to all his lies,deflections and distortions. I strongly approve.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Um...you do realize that Obama doesn't have to be "invited" to make a State Of The Union speech.......don't you?
GrandpaRox
Footballguy
So we have lost over 1600 lives chasing Al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Absolutely amazing that.Chasing Al Qaeda, but doing it in a way that results in fewer Americans dying than during the Bush yearsNot in Afghanistan. Why we even there?US military deaths are down by about 60% since Obama took office. Sounds like he used all his extra time to figure out how to get fewer Americans killed.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
It's the same B.S. that was used to justify over 4000 American deaths in Iraq under Bush. But I guess some people would rather have more dead Americans as long as it meant that their party was in the White House.So we have lost over 1600 lives chasing Al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Absolutely amazing that.Chasing Al Qaeda, but doing it in a way that results in fewer Americans dying than during the Bush yearsNot in Afghanistan. Why we even there?US military deaths are down by about 60% since Obama took office. Sounds like he used all his extra time to figure out how to get fewer Americans killed.
The question that GrandpaRox won't answer is why we were not giving Afghanistan our full attention after 9/11. And instead under President Bush we went to Iraq and got how many Americans and Iraqis that were killed, and continue to be killed because we destabilized the area. But hey keep blaming Obama for your problems and not accepting personal responsibility.
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NutterButter
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We should just have President Clinton give the state of the union until he dies. At least we'd be guaranteed a good speech.
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squistion
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Nobody has to listen if they don't want to, Gramps. There is this invention you may have heard of, it is called the remote.
Are you kidding? It was usually an interminable list of micro-targeted items; school uniforms, v-chips, blah, blah, blah.
His SOU's were terrible.
GrandpaRox
Footballguy
They continue to keep dying and ISIS has taken the country because Obama pulled us out.
jonessed
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Wait, now you're going to somehow keep him from addressing the American people, in addition to not inviting him to the building? This idea sounds complicated
rockaction
Footballguy
Wasn't this a pretty standard complaint from each side about Wilson's SOTU addresses from back in the twentieth century? We didn't use to have these.
I don't care if Obama whips up an incredible lather; it might be nice to address some police state issues. But the larger issue would seem to be about the office and its perks. I'm less for an imperial presidency day after day after day after day...
I don't care if Obama whips up an incredible lather; it might be nice to address some police state issues. But the larger issue would seem to be about the office and its perks. I'm less for an imperial presidency day after day after day after day...
NutterButter
Footballguy
butcher boy
Footballguy
From the comments: "Repubelickans"
gonna have to remember that one.
gonna have to remember that one.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, genius. Sternboy.From the comments: "Repubelickans"
gonna have to remember that one.
butcher boy
Footballguy
hey rockaction, go get some #### action.Yeah, genius. Sternboy.From the comments: "Repubelickans"
gonna have to remember that one.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, Stern, bring on your best Lange jokes.hey rockaction, go get some #### action.Yeah, genius. Sternboy.From the comments: "Repubelickans"
gonna have to remember that one.
Yeah, baby, those are good.
Lutherman2112
Footballguy
The whole standing ovation crap after every thematic point is complete and total BS intended to influence the blind faith followers...of both parties.
NutterButter
Footballguy
You guys seriously watch the state of the union? Its the golden age of television and you're watching that. 
Jack White
Footballguy
It's a dog and pony show for the sheeple.bigbottom said:
badmojo1006
Footballguy
It is mind boggling that people would even consider this
squistion
Footballguy
There is usually a thread on it here, with most of the participants conservatives, who try to sound really witty, but instead come across as a lame attempt at a political version of Mystery Science 3000.You guys seriously watch the state of the union? Its the golden age of television and you're watching that.
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NutterButter
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So who on this board would play the 3 Mystery Science 3000 participants. Btw, that show is awesome to watch stoned. I could watch that and Bob Ross all day long.There is usually a thread on it here, with most of the participants conservatives, who attempt to sound really witty, but instead come across as a lame attempt at a political version of Mystery Science 3000.You guys seriously watch the state of the union? Its the golden age of television and you're watching that.
squistion
Footballguy
I dunno, there are several promising candidates...So who on this board would play the 3 Mystery Science 3000 participants. Btw, that show is awesome to watch stoned. I could watch that and Bob Ross all day long.There is usually a thread on it here, with most of the participants conservatives, who attempt to sound really witty, but instead come across as a lame attempt at a political version of Mystery Science 3000.You guys seriously watch the state of the union? Its the golden age of television and you're watching that.
The most amusing year (or the most pathetic depending on your perspective) had MOP and BoneYardDog chiming in with their profound observations on what Obama had to say.
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