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Mock Draft #2 - 'Cuz I Got Nothin' To Do @ Work (1 Viewer)

Andy Dufresne

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1. Tampa Bay - Jameis Winston - QB - Florida State
I don't think they should, but TB will likely overlook the off-field stuff and give into the eye candy on the field.

2. Tennessee - Leonard Williams - DT - Southern California
Early word is that they'll stick with Mettenberger - and why not? Take the BPA instead of the "settle for" QB.

3. Jacksonville - Randy Gregory - DE - Nebraska
Would also like Scherff here but their d-line under performed this year.

4. Oakland - Amari Cooper - WR - Alabama
Carr to Cooper should at least add some excitement to a team that is generously described as "moribund".

5. Washington - Brandon Scherff - OT - Iowa
They have to get tougher and bigger on the line. Drafting this meany should do the trick.

6. NY Jets - Marcus Mariota - QB - Oregon
They have to give up on the tease that is Geno.

7. Chicago - Shane Ray - DE - Missouri
Worst defense in about 100 years (or since Dallas last year, anyway) gets a shot in the arm here.

8. Atlanta - Alvin Dupree - DE - Kentucky
If he performs well at the combine he'll shoot up big time in the draft. Atlanta NEEDS someone to get after the QB.

9. New York Giants - Dante Fowler Jr. - OLB - Florida
The "At Least We Weren't As Bad As Chicago" defense gets a guy that is laying in the weeds in terms of buzz at the DE/OLB position.

10. St. Louis - Trae Waynes - CB - Michigan State
They got a nice surprise in E.J. Gaines but the rest of the corps is meh. Could also use another o-lineman here as Jake Long is done.

11. Minnesota - Shaq Thompson - OLB - Washington
Would like to take a WR, but with the emergence of Charles Johnson that might not be necessary. Greenway is almost out of gas and the depth is average. Hey, he could play some RB too!

12. Cleveland - Kevin White - WR - West Virginia
Might be taken ahead of Cooper when all is said and done.

13. New Orleans - Marcus Peters - CB - Washington
The window is slamming shut so they have to take the risk that comes with the potentially top-10 talent.

14. Miami - Vic Beasley - OLB - Clemson
Their LB's are not good. Beasley could be used in a lot of combinations.

15. San Francisco - DeVante Parker - WR - Louisville
If/when they lose Crabtree the WR necessity is a screaming one.

16. Houston - Eddie Goldman - DT - Florida State
If Louis Nix can come back from injury and play well, this addition could vault the Texans' defense into the elite category.

17. San Diego - P.J. Williams - CB - Florida State
Defensive backfield struggles will continue until they get some upgrades. Why not start sooner rather than later?

18. Kansas City - Ronnie Stanley - OT - Notre Dame
Could go much higher than this but would definitely solidify a line for an offense that is predicated on running the ball.

19. Cleveland (from Buffalo) - Danny Shelton - DT - Washington
Terrible, awful, no-good defense needs this type of big body.

20. Philadelphia - Landon Collins - SS - Alabama
I don't know where he'll end up. There's some red flags with his play. But this would be a nice get for this average defense.

21. Cincinnati - Andrus Peat - OT - Stanford
Questions along the Bengals' line in terms of talent and contracts. Could use a pass rusher here, but not keen on what's left they try go get their offense up to snuff.

22. Pittsburgh - Malcom Brown - DT - Texas
Retirements and poor play force this hand.

23. Detroit - Michael Bennett - DT - Ohio State
Mass exodus of talent forces this hand. They can't keep both Suh and Fairley. Well they CAN, but it would mess their cap space up, IMO.

24. Arizona - Jaelen Strong - WR - Arizona State
Even if Fitzgerald doesn't leave, they need to re-stock. A young trio of Strong/Brown/Floyd would look nice.

25. Carolina - Ereck Flowers - OT - Miami (Fla.)
As expected, o-line play was their downfall later in the season (once the defense got on track).

26. Baltimore - T.J. Clemmings - OT - Pittsburgh
His versatility will help out.

27. Dallas - Arik Armstead - DE - Oregon
Another versatile player that can move around depending on situation.

28. Denver - Denzel Perryman - ILB - Miami (Fla.)
They were continually killed up the middle in the playoff game.

29. Indianapolis - La'el Collins - OT - LSU
Need to protect that Luck investment. Collins can play either inside or out.

30. Green Bay - Eric Kendricks - ILB - UCLA
A bit undersized, but a tackling machine that will fill the need they didn't fix when they passed on Borland last year.

31. New England - Sammie Coates - WR - Auburn
Did anyone notice? Their WRs were nearly invisible this year.

32. Seattle - Cedric Ogbuehi - OT - Texas A&M Melvin Gordon - RB - Wisconsin
He'll have to play on the right side, which is why he slides here. But he'd be a big upgrade for this weak spot on the 'Hawks' line.


Round 2
1. Tennessee - Ty Sambrailo - OT - Colorado State
2. Tampa Bay - Cameron Erving - C - Florida State
3. Oakland - Todd Gurley - RB - Georgia
4. Jacksonville - Tevin Coleman - RB - Indiana
5. NY Jets - Ifo Ekpre-Olomu - CB - Oregon
6. Washington - Devin Funchess - WR - Michigan
7. Chicago - Lorenzo Mauldin - OLB - Louisville
8. New York Giants - Hauoli Kikaha - OLB - Washington
9. St. Louis - Josue Matias - OG - Florida State
10. Atlanta - Maxx Williams - TE - Minnesota
11. Minnesota - Kevin Johnson - CB - Wake Forest
12. Cleveland - Benardrick McKinney - ILB - Mississippi State
13. New Orleans - Owamagbe Odighizuwa - DE - UCLA
14. San Francisco - Dorial Green-Beckham - WR - Oklahoma
15. Miami - Ty Montgomery - WR - Stanford
16. San Diego - Jake Fisher - OT - Oregon
17. Kansas City - Devin Smith - WR - Ohio St
18. Buffalo - Paul Dawson - OLB - TCU
19. Houston - Brett Hundley - QB - UCLA
20. Philadelphia - Alex Carter - CB - Stanford
21. Cincinnati - Danielle Hunter - DE - LSU
22. Detroit - Jay Ajayi - RB - Boise State
23. Arizona - T.J. Yeldon - RB - Alabama
24. Pittsburgh - Cody Prewitt - FS - Ole Miss
25. Carolina - Josh Harper - WR - Fresno State
26. Baltimore - Nelson Agholor - WR - Southern California
27. Indianapolis - Nate Orchard - DE - Utah
28. Dallas - Duke Johnson - RB - Miami
29. Denver - Jeremiah Poutasi - OT - Utah
30. Green Bay - DeForest Buckner - DE - Oregon
31. New England - Ameer Abdullah - RB - Nebraska
32. Seattle - Jordan Phillips - DT - Oklahoma


 
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I hope Sammie Coates isn't the Pats pick in the first. Seems too much like a one-trick pony to me.

 
Interesting draft for the Raiders. I do think the Raiders need to add some playmakers around Carr. Getting Cooper and Gordon would be a step in the right direction. The Raiders did have a historically bad run game this past season which I think really hurt the offense.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
11. Minnesota - Shaq Thompson - OLB - Washington
Would like to take a WR, but with the emergence of Charles Johnson that might not be necessary. Greenway is almost out of gas and the depth is average. Hey, he could play some RB too!


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11. Minnesota - Kevin Johnson - CB - Wake Forest
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Since you are a Viking fan I've got two questions.

1. If this holds up that would mean the Viking would use first round picks on linebacker two years in a row. Is the linebacker position that bad in Minnesota or is the pick more of a value evaluation on your part?

2. If LB is a big need or if the first pick was value you go defense in the second round meaning no help for Teddy with the first two picks. So is Charles Johnson really that good or do you also expect the Vikes to land WR Duron Carter as a free agent?

 
I like Winston at the top. He's a huge risk, but a huge reward. At QB where you have a chance to make or break your franchise, you have to take that risk. Mariota is just as big a risk, granted for on the field reasons but still a huge risk. Given what the Bucs have at QB right now, nobody would reasonably be flaming on Tampa in a few years if Winston doesn't work out. He's as proven on the field as Mariota isn't proven in a pro system.

 
ShamrockPride said:
I like Winston at the top. He's a huge risk, but a huge reward. At QB where you have a chance to make or break your franchise, you have to take that risk. Mariota is just as big a risk, granted for on the field reasons but still a huge risk. Given what the Bucs have at QB right now, nobody would reasonably be flaming on Tampa in a few years if Winston doesn't work out. He's as proven on the field as Mariota isn't proven in a pro system.
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Every prospect is a risk, but drafting one who is mentally unstable magnifies it.

 
Bracie Smathers said:
Andy Dufresne said:
11. Minnesota - Shaq Thompson - OLB - Washington
Would like to take a WR, but with the emergence of Charles Johnson that might not be necessary. Greenway is almost out of gas and the depth is average. Hey, he could play some RB too!


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11. Minnesota - Kevin Johnson - CB - Wake Forest
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Since you are a Viking fan I've got two questions.

1. If this holds up that would mean the Viking would use first round picks on linebacker two years in a row. Is the linebacker position that bad in Minnesota or is the pick more of a value evaluation on your part?

2. If LB is a big need or if the first pick was value you go defense in the second round meaning no help for Teddy with the first two picks. So is Charles Johnson really that good or do you also expect the Vikes to land WR Duron Carter as a free agent?
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1. Yes, the LB position is that bad. Greenway gets a lot of tackles but they're mostly of the "catching up to the play" type. Hodges, Mauti, and Cole are just bodies. Brinkley kind of sucks.

If they could somehow get Thompson in the first and someone like Perryman or Kendricks in the 2nd, their front seven would be a menace.

2. Charles Johnson isn't that good and I couldn't care less about Duron Carter. I just think they'll bide their time with the WR spot. It's going to continue to be a "move the chains" offense for a couple years.

Having said that, I wouldn't mind at all if they took one of Cooper/White/Parker in the 1st or if Coates was there in the 2nd.

 
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Dallas most likely goes passrush (edge over interior) or CB. Outside chance of safety.

Of course, free agency may make them go a different direction. Like RB or RT with Murray, Free and Parnell all FAs. But their usual approach is to fill holes in FA and draft BPA at position of relative need.

 
Grahamburn said:
ShamrockPride said:
I like Winston at the top. He's a huge risk, but a huge reward. At QB where you have a chance to make or break your franchise, you have to take that risk. Mariota is just as big a risk, granted for on the field reasons but still a huge risk. Given what the Bucs have at QB right now, nobody would reasonably be flaming on Tampa in a few years if Winston doesn't work out. He's as proven on the field as Mariota isn't proven in a pro system.
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Every prospect is a risk, but drafting one who is mentally unstable magnifies it.
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Mentally unstable is a bit of a stretch, no? Let's not make him out to be Titus Young here. Just a miscreant. A young, misled degenerate.

 
Ridgelake said:
Dallas most likely goes passrush (edge over interior) or CB. Outside chance of safety.

Of course, free agency may make them go a different direction. Like RB or RT with Murray, Free and Parnell all FAs. But their usual approach is to fill holes in FA and draft BPA at position of relative need.
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Markus Golden/Shaq Calhoun/Hau'Oli Kikaha?

I think with Lawrence on one side and Armstead on the other, the end spots would be taken care of.

 
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ShamrockPride said:
Grahamburn said:
ShamrockPride said:
I like Winston at the top. He's a huge risk, but a huge reward. At QB where you have a chance to make or break your franchise, you have to take that risk. Mariota is just as big a risk, granted for on the field reasons but still a huge risk. Given what the Bucs have at QB right now, nobody would reasonably be flaming on Tampa in a few years if Winston doesn't work out. He's as proven on the field as Mariota isn't proven in a pro system.
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Every prospect is a risk, but drafting one who is mentally unstable magnifies it.
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Mentally unstable is a bit of a stretch, no? Let's not make him out to be Titus Young here. Just a miscreant. A young, misled degenerate.
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When was the last time a young misled miscreant degenerate turned about to be a great QB?

 
As much as I'm glad for participation in my mock draft threads, there's already a Winston thread. ;)

But since we're on the topic, I agree with Grahamburn in that I don't think he has the mentality to be a top NFL QB. Nor will he develop one. That's just my speculation.

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
Ridgelake said:
Dallas most likely goes passrush (edge over interior) or CB. Outside chance of safety.

Of course, free agency may make them go a different direction. Like RB or RT with Murray, Free and Parnell all FAs. But their usual approach is to fill holes in FA and draft BPA at position of relative need.
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Markus Golden/Shaq Calhoun/Hau'Oli Kikaha?

I think with Lawrence on one side and Armstead on the other, the end spots would be taken care of.
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I don't know enough about the college players to offer an educated guess. What I can comment on with a small degree of knowledge is the Cowboys.

Lawrence has big things ahead of him. A full offseason of work, and he's looking like a very solid piece going forward. But they need more. Crawford showed good promise as a 3-tech. That's 2 spots. The 1-tech can be filled relatively easily. So that leaves the 2nd end spot as a long term position of need. Of course, they like rotating 8 guys up front, so they could always use more even when there's an obvious starter at a spot.

Thinking back, there were comments from the Dallas front office after last year's draft that they've done their work on the OL and now will focus on the DL. I've seen nothing during the season to suggest a materially different course. They may not use their first rounder at DL. But they will very likely use multiple top 100 picks there over the next couple of seasons.

 
31. New England - Sammie Coates - WR - AuburnDid anyone notice? Their WRs were nearly invisible this year.
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BB got his cheap 4 years out of Vereen/Ridley...my bet is that they take Gordon or Gurley and do it again.

 
Da Gildz said:
Andy Dufresne said:
Da Gildz said:
My guess is the Saints at 13 actually for Gordon
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Now who's crazy?
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There is no chance he falls to the 2nd. Nice list but you're way off on Gordon, he's an elite talent.
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Well...he's a really good talent. But it's at a devalued position.

And he has some fumbling issues and isn't a proven pass catcher.

He could easily go in the first round, but it wouldn't be a huge surprise if he doesn't.

Interesting...in the last nine drafts only eight RBs have been selected in the 'teens.

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
Da Gildz said:
Andy Dufresne said:
Da Gildz said:
My guess is the Saints at 13 actually for Gordon
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Now who's crazy?
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There is no chance he falls to the 2nd. Nice list but you're way off on Gordon, he's an elite talent.
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Well...he's a really good talent. But it's at a devalued position.

And he has some fumbling issues and isn't a proven pass catcher.

He could easily go in the first round, but it wouldn't be a huge surprise if he doesn't.

Interesting...in the last nine drafts only eight RBs have been selected in the 'teens.
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All fair, its a devalued position now, agree with that. But for difference makers with gamebreaking ability, they're still viewed/taken in the 1st. The last couple years, there hasn't been a guy like that really. No one thought Bell would turn into what he is either..Gio was probably the closest thing but his size dropped him into the 2nd..(edit and a slow 40)

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
As much as I'm glad for participation in my mock draft threads, there's already a Winston thread. ;)

But since we're on the topic, I agree with Grahamburn in that I don't think he has the mentality to be a top NFL QB. Nor will he develop one. That's just my speculation.
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There's already a thread on each of the top 15 guys as well. BUT, I digress. You can turn a bozo into a semi-decent citizen. You just need the right support system and rules, with people willing to enforce penalties for breaking those rules. I don't know if Lovie is that guy...

 
Da Gildz said:
All fair, its a devalued position now, agree with that. But for difference makers with gamebreaking ability, they're still viewed/taken in the 1st. The last couple years, there hasn't been a guy like that really. No one thought Bell would turn into what he is either..Gio was probably the closest thing but his size dropped him into the 2nd..(edit and a slow 40)
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Well, like I said, I can see him going in the 1st but there are legitimate reasons for him not to.

 
I'm fine with the Bengals taking an OT but he can't beat out whit or Andre so he is purely depth for the short term and transitioning to replace them when they're too old.

I guess I prefer a front 7 guy just for the instant impact. They honestly need both.

 
cheese said:
I'm fine with the Bengals taking an OT but he can't beat out whit or Andre so he is purely depth for the short term and transitioning to replace them when they're too old.

I guess I prefer a front 7 guy just for the instant impact. They honestly need both.
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Maybe I'm making too much out of Smith's injury history, but they are piling up.

 
13. New Orleans - Marcus Peters - CB - Washington
The window is slamming shut so they have to take the risk that comes with the potentially top-10 talent.
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this is a better pick than some of the other mocks i have seen. the saints were terrible on defense, certainly, but the pass rush wasn't the problem. they got truly awful play from the backfield. byrd was injured early in the year and vaccarro was asked to do too much. lewis was better down the stretch, even if hurting, but the revolving door at the other CB spot has been a real liability. i think CB makes a lot of sense because they need depth. stanley jean-baptiste is big at the position but he was a rookie. he might step into the role but he might be nothing more than a project or camp fodder.

the only other positions i can see them burning a R1 pick at would be C or ILB. goodwin - who they brought back in the offseason - is on his last legs but is best as a back-up now. lelito is maybe a project but no one is sure about him. the whole offensive line sucked this year and it has to be addressed somehow. at ILB, hawthorne is long on athleticism but short on everything else. he's a big salary cap number on a team that is tight this year. he could be kept if he's willing to re-work his contract.

 
ShamrockPride said:
Andy Dufresne said:
As much as I'm glad for participation in my mock draft threads, there's already a Winston thread. ;)

But since we're on the topic, I agree with Grahamburn in that I don't think he has the mentality to be a top NFL QB. Nor will he develop one. That's just my speculation.
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There's already a thread on each of the top 15 guys as well. BUT, I digress. You can turn a bozo into a semi-decent citizen. You just need the right support system and rules, with people willing to enforce penalties for breaking those rules. I don't know if Lovie is that guy...
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Dallas has done this with Dez. I suspect that the real key for Dez is that he does have a good heart and does try to do the right thing. Coming out, he had the emotional maturity of, say, a 12 year old. He got no parenting to speak of growing up. Dallas put a lot of structure around him. And he's grown up tremendously. And his passion and heart are now positives.

I haven't looked closely, but I have a suspicion that a lot of Winston's issues don't suggest a good guy at heart. I could be completely off base in that. But that's my guess.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
cheese said:
I'm fine with the Bengals taking an OT but he can't beat out whit or Andre so he is purely depth for the short term and transitioning to replace them when they're too old.

I guess I prefer a front 7 guy just for the instant impact. They honestly need both.
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Maybe I'm making too much out of Smith's injury history, but they are piling up.
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ya. I could see them valuing a 3rd tackle for that reason plus eventually replacing the vets. The fact is though, any OT is an injury away from playing at all and a DE/LB probably starts snap 1 week 1 on this team. That was my main point.
 
Does Beasley really project as a 4-3 OLB? My impression is that he was more of a DE in college, which is probably the last thing Miami needs.

 
No love for DGB?

I mean, I realize their is a legitimate chance he is actually dumber than Josh Gordon, but come on if they (NE) take a WR in the first and it isn't DGB I would be shocked.

 
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No love for DGB?

I mean, I realize their is a legitimate chance he is actually dumber than Josh Gordon, but come on if they (NE) take a WR in the first and it isn't DGB I would be shocked.
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Why? It's not like NE has a good track record of drafting WRs.
 
Run It Up said:
No love for DGB?

I mean, I realize their is a legitimate chance he is actually dumber than Josh Gordon, but come on if they (NE) take a WR in the first and it isn't DGB I would be shocked.
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Guy was kicked off a team and hasn't played in a year. He's a mid rounder at best. More likely he goes undrafted.
 
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jurb26 said:
Run It Up said:
No love for DGB?

I mean, I realize their is a legitimate chance he is actually dumber than Josh Gordon, but come on if they (NE) take a WR in the first and it isn't DGB I would be shocked.
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Why? It's not like NE has a good track record of drafting WRs.
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Exactly, terrible at drafting WRs - DGB is from my town, I watched him play all through highschool and what little he played in college. Id love if his ridiculous raw talent landed in NE.

And I think BB is one of the few people who can sort his dumb ### out.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Run It Up said:
No love for DGB?

I mean, I realize their is a legitimate chance he is actually dumber than Josh Gordon, but come on if they (NE) take a WR in the first and it isn't DGB I would be shocked.
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Guy was kicked off a team and hasn't played in a year. He's a mid rounder at best. More likely he goes undrafted.
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LOLNO.

Da'rick never had Randy Moss comparisons. People don't throw that name out as a comparison unless there's some serious evidence to support it.

 
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It's a good mock. Agree w Winston at 1.

I see no way mariota falls past 5. The skins will trade out of there to anyone that wants mariota before the jets pick. For instance the chiefs, cardinals or eagles. And I think they'd do it just to pick up an extra mid rounder.

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
Run It Up said:
No love for DGB?

I mean, I realize their is a legitimate chance he is actually dumber than Josh Gordon, but come on if they (NE) take a WR in the first and it isn't DGB I would be shocked.
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Guy was kicked off a team and hasn't played in a year. He's a mid rounder at best. More likely he goes undrafted.
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There's zero chance he goes undrafted. Second round latest and would not be surprised if he goes in the first. I also don't like Brown for the Steelers. Great player but unless they move to the 4-3 with LeBeau gone, he's not a great fit for their scheme. He's more of a three tech than a two-gap nose IMO. If the Steelers want to replace McClendon at the nose (and I don't think they do) then Shelton is the guy. However, I believe with Worilds likely gone and Harrison likely to retire again, that they'll be looking at OLB hard. If there's no one there they like, I think secondary is where they'd go next despite their general avoidance of first round corners.

 
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