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Stephone Anthony, #1 IDP pick in 2015 (1 Viewer)

Talent meets opportunity.

Obviously Anthony (is he a 3rd down option though or just a 2 down bruiser?)

Who else? Beasley? Shaq Thompson (probably WLB not safety?) Bud Dupree? Landon Collins?

 
Let's get those rookie rankings started please.

Anthony

Kendricks

Beasley

Collins

Shaq

 
Is Jene posting any post-draft IDP articles this year?

 
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georg013 said:
Will Beasley be classified as a DE or LB?
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Rotoworld has him at DE... So MFL will move him to DE eventually.Pretty good destinations for most of the rush ends this draft - Fowler, Beasley and Gregory all with DE status.

 
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J Giles Band said:
georg013 said:
Will Beasley be classified as a DE or LB?
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Rotoworld has him at DE... So MFL will move him to DE eventually.Pretty good destinations for most of the rush ends this draft - Fowler, Beasley and Gregory all with DE status.
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The issue is for how long on all. They could go to LB at any moment. I would not be surprised to see Beasley at LB before the start of the NFL season. But he still has value as a Khalil Mack or Von Miller type of LB

My rankings

1. Stephone Anthony

2. Eric Kendricks

3. Dante Fowler> Move him up to 1 in big play leagues as DE is hard to find. I assume he goes 1st in my dynasty home league

4. Vic Beasley. As a DE and in big play he mgiht be #2. Just dont see him being a DE when all is said and done

5. Paul Dawson. He reminds me of Borland a year ago. Just give him a chance and he could fly with it

6. Odig Ogamagbe. I see big things for this kid and he will be a DE.

7. Denzel Perrymen. My only issue is can he hold up for 3 downs as a thumper

8. Benadrick McKinney. Same as Perryman. Almost interchangeable

9. Shaq Thompson. Size is a concern

10. Randy Gregory. I just dont know how much in year 1 and his size is a concern also

11. Landon Collins. Matters if you need a S. My one league has no value but other has way more with 3-3-5. But what will he be used for

12. Leonard Williams. As a DT he will be special but a DT> As a dE he will fill a need but not elite numbers ever. But can he end up like a JJ Watt.

13. Jake Ryan. Not sure what he will do in Green Bay but they might have some openings for a guy to get time

14. Arik Armstead. Justin Smith replacement and he has put up numbers

15. Mario Edwards .I like his landing spot

Missed. Shane Ray. Something about this kid I dont really like and if he is a LB in Denver, I think he will be 2nd fiddle

 
J Giles Band said:
georg013 said:
Will Beasley be classified as a DE or LB?
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Rotoworld has him at DE... So MFL will move him to DE eventually.Pretty good destinations for most of the rush ends this draft - Fowler, Beasley and Gregory all with DE status.
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i have very little trust in those designations as they stand now. There will be the update after training camp in July. honestly, i would expect each of them to have LB status by week 1.

 
The skepticism for the DE status of Fowler, Beasley and Gregory is well advised and speaks to the experience of the vets here.

And it wouldn't be a surprise if there is a change at Rotoworld after OTA's or training camp due to how they are being used. That said, I also wouldn't be making any absolute statements either way. Each of the aforementioned's teams run a 4-3 scheme, and by all accounts they are better suited as rush ends than as a stand up OLB. Not to mention Fowler and Beasley specifically have already been penciled into the Leo role for their teams, thus the DE designation at Rotoworld.

 
J Giles Band said:
The skepticism for the DE status of Fowler, Beasley and Gregory is well advised and speaks to the experience of the vets here.

And it wouldn't be a surprise if there is a change at Rotoworld after OTA's or training camp due to how they are being used. That said, I also wouldn't be making any absolute statements either way. Each of the aforementioned's teams run a 4-3 scheme, and by all accounts they are better suited as rush ends than as a stand up OLB. Not to mention Fowler and Beasley specifically have already been penciled into the Leo role for their teams, thus the DE designation at Rotoworld.
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good post.

The teams do run 4-3, not 3-4s so I would think they are practically locks to be DEs and not LBs. Gregory's weight would concern me if he's asked to play DE but I don't see him as an OLB unless they make a switch to 3-4.

But B. Irvin is still listed as LB so who knows....

 
Thanks SF.

Fowler injures his knee during his first rookie minicamp practice today. :shock:

Expected to have an MRI today to learn the severity. Apparently he was able to put weight on the leg before being carted off the field, so fingers crossed for the young man.

 
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Update - Schefter reporting Fowler is out for the season with a torn ACL. :topcat:

What a tough break for the kid. And awful news for the Jags. That poor franchise can't seem to catch a break.

 
Stephone Anthony could step in and get 100 tackles, just like Lofton, right off the bat, there is a dearth of LB talent in NO though the draft helped changed that.

Stephone Anthony
All media attention has been accorded Tigers rush end Vic Beasley, but Anthony is regarded by the staff and team- mates as the defensive unit’s true MVP. Having started 36 times during his 52-game career, Anthony is the team’s active leader with 329 total tackles, the 23rd-best figure for major college players that competed in 2014. His 210 solo stops also rank ninth and 34.5 stops-for-loss placed tied for 15th among active FBS performers.
Anthony stepped into the starting lineup during the second half of his sophomore season, as he tallied 77 tackles that year. He followed with a career-high 132 hits in 2013, totaling 13.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage on the way to All-Atlantic Coast Conference honors. Again named to the All-ACC team in 2014, he led the Tigers with 89 tackles, coming up with 10.5 stops-for-loss, as four of his eleven QB pressures resulted in turnovers.
Anthony is a very athletic defender, showing the hip swerve and flexibility you find in a player that some teams might feel will be more advantageous as a weak-side outside linebacker, rather than performing as a classic middle linebacker. He shows suddenness in his initial move off the ball and gets to top speed quickly. He is very quick coming off the snap, staying low in his pads while generating quick lateral movements to string the plays wide. He has the natural ability to always anticipate the flow of the ball.
Anthony is a solid wrap-up tackler who extends his arms properly to stalk and secure. He is the type that collides with ball carriers upon initial contact and has the strength to shed blocks and stay on the ball. He shows ease of movement getting to the ball when working in space. He has the leg drive and strength to get the ball carrier on the ground instantly. He takes no wasted steps in transition and is quick to turn coming out of his backpedal. He flips his hips properly and plays at a good pad level. He shows no stiffness in his turns and this allows him to drop off quickly.
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I really like their second first-round pick, Clemson linebacker Stephone Anthony. I think he could be a terrific NFL player. He's very athletic. In college he played fast and was decisive in his movements. He trusted what he saw and turned it loose. He showed the ability to blitz and cover as well. He could be a really good linebacker.
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- Greg Cosell

 
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News Articles > Dannell Ellerbe Published Fri Aug 14 10:56:25 a.m. ET 2015
(RotoWire)Ellerbe (undisclosed) left the Saints' preseason opener against the Ravens in the first quarter with an undisclosed injury. Following a goal line play, Ellerbe walked off the field with athletic trainers, before heading to the locker room on his own accord. Analysis: Ellerbe, who was acquired in a trade from the Dolphins this offseason, is expected to start at middle linebacker for New Orleans, so his loss would be a big blow for the team. Head coach Sean Payton did not provide an update following the game, and teams are not required to provide an injury report until the regular season begins. Still, the fact that Ellerbe walked off the field on his own power is probably a good sign. Assuming he is healthy in time for the regular season, Ellerbe should be a viable option in most IDP leagues.

 
My rankings today for rookies

1. Stephone Anthony. Seems ready to step in for great spot to be top guy

2. Erik Kendricks. Even though still battling for a starting job with Hodges. He will eventually win. Batting with greenway for points

3. Shaq Thompson. Great camp and has the speed. Only issue is he might go to S

4. Vic Beasley. DE are hard to come by and he is the top one

5. Paul Dawson. Not a good camp but they keep talking about wait till he is on field. Burflict not coming back too soon

7. Benadrick McKinney. Sounds like more than 2 down LB

8. Denzel Perrymen. The same as above

9. Leonard Williams. Almost tier drop. 3-4 DE but still hard to find. How much does he play in year 1

10. Landon Collins. Just a S which drops his value. Plus the knee

11. Bud Dupree. Read not a great camp but he has superstar written all over him. But rush LB value is less in most formats

12. Kwon Alexander. MLB for TB would be huge but not as talented as the rest but it works for Worrilow

13. Arik Armstead. Great reviews but 3-4 guy again

14. Owam Odighizuwa. If he starts he might be 2nd best DE by the end of the year. Real raw

15. Randy Gregory - has some moves for sure but is he just a pass rush guy and Hardy suspension to 4 games does not help

Other guys

Mario Edwards. Good reviews but Mack moving to DE lowers value as competing with Tuck for snaps

Danny Shelton. If you require a DT. With more teams going to 3-4, they are starting to be harder to find. I think he has an impact

Eli Harold. Will he replace Aldon Smith. Chance that he does

Hauoli Kikaha. Another rush guy. NO guys have not scored great from here. But he could see some nice time

Shane Ray. Not a great camp and wont see much action in year 1 with Ware still there.

Dante Fowler. MY #1 DE pre camps but injury drops him but interesting pickup for future if you have roster room

 
It would seem to me that Stephone Anthony would be the most talked about IDP rookie and dynasty prospect because from everything I've read he has the starting middle linebacking role for New Orleans locked up. Also he's got the radio helmet so he will be making calls and that indicates he will be on the field for all three downs.

He's got the size (6'3 245 lbs) and amazing speed (4.56 third best among all LBers at the combine) to hold up over the course of a season and athletic ability to stay on the field.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2015/08/stephone_anthony_andrus_peat_e.html

...Since Day One, Anthony has looked like he belongs. He patrols the field from sideline to sideline and carries himself with a confidence that belies his rookie pedigree.

...One Saints coach privately referred to Anthony as "special" earlier this summer and he has done little in training camp to change the staff's high opinion of him. It speaks to Anthony's maturity and acumen that the staff has given him the responsibility of calling plays so early in his NFL career...
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Last year I didn't think their was enough discussion about C.J. Mosely where the year before their was way too much chatter about Arthur Brown. This year the IDP forum seems to be sleeping on Stephone Anthony.

Is their any reason to think he will disappoint? Bloom had him rated lower than, Kendricks, Beasley, and Shaq. He adds he (LB Stephone Anthony) doesn't have the game to create a LB #1 ceiling.

I'm baffled why their isn't as much discussion about a guy who seems he will be the top IDP point producing rookie and who could/should earn a long term job in the middle of the Saints defense.

Am I missing something here?

 
Bracie Smathers said:
Am I missing something here?
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I don't think you are. He seems to be in a great position and I'm looking forward to watching him play this year.

Seems like most of the weaknesses that were mentioned with him were technical. Nothing that can't be fixed.

 
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Bracie Smathers said:
It would seem to me that Stephone Anthony would be the most talked about IDP rookie and dynasty prospect because from everything I've read he has the starting middle linebacking role for New Orleans locked up. Also he's got the radio helmet so he will be making calls and that indicates he will be on the field for all three downs.

He's got the size (6'3 245 lbs) and amazing speed (4.56 third best among all LBers at the combine) to hold up over the course of a season and athletic ability to stay on the field.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2015/08/stephone_anthony_andrus_peat_e.html

...Since Day One, Anthony has looked like he belongs. He patrols the field from sideline to sideline and carries himself with a confidence that belies his rookie pedigree.

...One Saints coach privately referred to Anthony as "special" earlier this summer and he has done little in training camp to change the staff's high opinion of him. It speaks to Anthony's maturity and acumen that the staff has given him the responsibility of calling plays so early in his NFL career...
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Last year I didn't think their was enough discussion about C.J. Mosely where the year before their was way too much chatter about Arthur Brown. This year the IDP forum seems to be sleeping on Stephone Anthony.

Is their any reason to think he will disappoint? Bloom had him rated lower than, Kendricks, Beasley, and Shaq. He adds he (LB Stephone Anthony) doesn't have the game to create a LB #1 ceiling.

I'm baffled why their isn't as much discussion about a guy who seems he will be the top IDP point producing rookie and who could/should earn a long term job in the middle of the Saints defense.

Am I missing something here?
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I agree with you. I wonder if it just isn't a symptom of less traffic in the forum itself?

 
Rushmore said:
Bracie Smathers said:
It would seem to me that Stephone Anthony would be the most talked about IDP rookie and dynasty prospect because from everything I've read he has the starting middle linebacking role for New Orleans locked up. Also he's got the radio helmet so he will be making calls and that indicates he will be on the field for all three downs.

He's got the size (6'3 245 lbs) and amazing speed (4.56 third best among all LBers at the combine) to hold up over the course of a season and athletic ability to stay on the field.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2015/08/stephone_anthony_andrus_peat_e.html

...Since Day One, Anthony has looked like he belongs. He patrols the field from sideline to sideline and carries himself with a confidence that belies his rookie pedigree.

...One Saints coach privately referred to Anthony as "special" earlier this summer and he has done little in training camp to change the staff's high opinion of him. It speaks to Anthony's maturity and acumen that the staff has given him the responsibility of calling plays so early in his NFL career...
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Last year I didn't think their was enough discussion about C.J. Mosely where the year before their was way too much chatter about Arthur Brown. This year the IDP forum seems to be sleeping on Stephone Anthony.

Is their any reason to think he will disappoint? Bloom had him rated lower than, Kendricks, Beasley, and Shaq. He adds he (LB Stephone Anthony) doesn't have the game to create a LB #1 ceiling.

I'm baffled why their isn't as much discussion about a guy who seems he will be the top IDP point producing rookie and who could/should earn a long term job in the middle of the Saints defense.

Am I missing something here?
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I agree with you. I wonder if it just isn't a symptom of less traffic in the forum itself?
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Ssssshhhhhhhh

 
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