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Muslim chaplain claims discrimination on United flight (1 Viewer)

Andy Dufresne

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Muslim chaplain claims discrimination on United flight

A simple request for an unopened can of Diet Coke on a United Airlines flight left Tahera Ahmad in tears.


A Muslim chaplain and director of interfaith engagement at Northwestern University, Ahmad, 31, was traveling Friday from Chicago to Washington for a conference promoting dialogue between Israeli and Palestinian youth. She was wearing a headscarf, or hijab.

For hygienic reasons, she asked for an unopened can of soda, she said. The flight attendant told her that she could not give her one but then handed an unopened can of beer to a man seated nearby. Ahmad questioned the flight attendant.

"We are unauthorized to give unopened cans to people because they may use it as a weapon on the plane," she recalled the flight attendant telling her.


When Ahmad told the flight attendant she was being discriminated against, the attendant abruptly opened the beer can.

"It's so you don't use it as a weapon," Ahmad said she was told.

Shocked, Ahmad asked other passengers if they had seen what happened.

A man sitting across the aisle turned to her and yelled, "You Muslim, you need to shut the f--- up," she said.

"What?"

The man leaned over, looked her in the eyes and said: "Yes, you know you would use it as a weapon. So shut the f--- up," according to Ahmad.

"I felt the hate in his voice and his raging eyes," Ahmad wrote on Facebook while the plane was still in flight. "I can't help but cry ... because I thought people would defend me and say something. Some people just shook their heads in dismay."

After her Facebook post, people took to social media in support of Ahmad using the #unitedfortahera hashtag. Some pledged to boycott United.

Suhaib Webb, a prominent Muslim American imam, tweeted, "I'm asking all of you to let @united know that you are disgusted with this bigotry." He also tweeted a photo of a can of Diet Coke over #unitedfortahera.


In a statement, United spokesman Charles Hobart said the airline "strongly supports diversity and inclusion."

"We and our partners do not discriminate against our employees or customers," the statement said. "We are reaching out directly to Ms. Ahmad to get a better understanding of what occurred during the flight."

"We are also discussing the matter that Ms. Ahmad describes with Shuttle America, our regional partner that operated the flight. We look forward to speaking with Ms. Ahmad and hope to have the opportunity to welcome her back."

Ahmad, who has Premier frequent-flier status with United, said Saturday that she had not heard from the airline.

"I'm not doing this to go after United Airlines. This is about bigotry and racism and our country is going through a very difficult time right now. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and so many others worked so hard ..." Ahmad said, breaking into tears.

"They strove so hard so that Americans would not mistreat each other on the basis of the color of their skin or religious or ethnic background but I guess we're still on that journey."

The flight attendant as well as the pilot later apologized, she said.

"She said she's working on her rude behavior and that the man (sitting across the aisle) should not have said anything," Ahmad recalled.

Ahmad was recognized at the White House last year "as a leading Muslim female in the United States" during Women's History Month, according to Northwestern University. She had previously attended a Ramadan dinner hosted by President Barack Obama.

In 2013, Ahmad sparked outrage among Islamic conservatives when she became the first woman to recite the Quran at the Islamic Society of North America convention in Washington, the nation's largest Muslim gathering, according to Northwestern.

Ahmad was born in India and grew up in Morton Grove, Illinois. She said she has been spat on and had her hijab ripped off in Islamophobic encounters after the September 11, 2001 terror attacks.

"This time I was being treated as a threat to everyone around me 30,000 feet above the ground and being told that I could use a can of Diet Coke as a weapon," she said. "And no one said anything."

The incident comes amid growing hostility toward Muslims living in the United States.

On Friday, protesters at a "Freedom of Speech" rally outside a Arizona mosque were met by counterprotesters. The two groups lined opposite sides of the street in front of the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix. They yelled at each other as a line of police officers kept them apart, CNN affiliate KNXV reported.

The Islamic center is the mosque once attended by Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi, who drove from Arizona to a Dallas suburb to shoot up a Prophet Mohammed cartoon contest there. Both were killed by police early this month. Many Muslims consider demeaning depictions of Mohammed to be blasphemous and banned by Islamic law.

In Washington, activist and conservative blogger Pamela Geller of New York wanted to place ads showing cartoons of Mohammed in the capital's transit system. She hoped to display the winning cartoon from her group's contest in Texas -- the one where Simpson and Soofi were killed by police. The Washington Metro board voted to stop showing issue-oriented ads throughout its system.

Events such as this have some Muslims scared, said Imraan Siddiqi with the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

"Recently, the mosques here in Phoenix actually received threatening letters -- very specific threats, saying that we are going to massacre your congregations," he said.

In a national survey by the Pew Research Center in 2013, 42% of respondents said Islam was more likely than other religions to encourage violence among its believers. In addition, Muslim Americans are seen as facing more discrimination than other groups, including gays and lesbians, Hispanics, African Americans and women.

According to the survey, 45% of the respondents said Muslim Americans face "a lot" of discrimination, and 28% said Muslims are subject to some discrimination.
Is it just me or does this not even come close to passing the smell test? I can't begin to imagine that someone said something like she claims the guy next to her said. Not even a little bit.

Am I being naive?

Oh wait, there's more.

In a Facebook post she claims that the pilot "...also apologized for everything and said that as a white male he recognized his privilege and said he didn't know what it must be like to be a minority and go through something hateful like this." There is ZERO chance he said this.

 
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And if some random passenger says hateful things at another passenger I am confused as to how that is the airlines fault? I understand that they can try to diffuse passenger 2 AFTER he says his piece,but they can't control what he is thinking.

 
I believe all of it. Why not?

It's an anecdote and most people are not going to behave that rudely. Still we live in a society where Arab and Muslim bashing are pretty high right now. Also, given this woman's impressive bio and list of accomplishments, I have trouble thinking she would make that sort of thing up.

 
I shared my experience at the restaurant with my gay customer (in gay marriage thread)... very similar.

Given that in my estimation the general attitude towards Muslims is worse that that toward gay people - I believe it. Most of it at least.

 
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I believe that the guy said that to her. The fact is most people would just look down and avoid eye contact in such a confrontation that they watched play out.

The second part where the pilot said that stuff...that definitely didn't happen. He probably apologized, but to bring up "white privilege?" FOH.

 
It was a flight from Chicago to DC, hardly the OKC to Lubbock leg.

I thought this was going to be about the airline not opening the can for her, but the stewardess did it for her anyway. Regardless if people were that ugly (sad if so, even if she was being confrontational) she has no claim.

 
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I believe that the guy said that to her. The fact is most people would just look down and avoid eye contact in such a confrontation that they watched play out.

The second part where the pilot said that stuff...that definitely didn't happen. He probably apologized, but to bring up "white privilege?" FOH.
Pretty much my take as well.

 
It was a flight from Chicago to DC, hardly the OKC to Lubbock leg.
Ah. So in other words bigotry is confined to the south? Thanks LHUCKS!
Hardly but the people are definitely different, a flight to DC likely has a good number of very educated people (like the plaintiff here) but I'm not saying that means there couldn't be bigots on board. It's also worth noting she started it by asking people to call out the stewardess for her comment, people on a flight want to get there and avoid all that sht, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if people were annoyed by the whole scene.

 
And if some random passenger says hateful things at another passenger I am confused as to how that is the airlines fault? I understand that they can try to diffuse passenger 2 AFTER he says his piece,but they can't control what he is thinking.
The "discrimination" was the stewardess opening her can but not the guy sitting next to her because she might use hers as a weapon.

 
This story and the quotes and followup story not only don't pass the smell test - the logical conclusion of that (a conspiracy to raise awareness / through United under the bus) makes even less sense if indeed this woman is so truly respected and well thought of.

Either truth is especially sad and disturbing - curious wtf really happened here.

 
Agree it sounds a little embellished but she could have gotten a crazy person sitting next to her I suppose. I fly all the time and have never heard the unopened can thing but they usually open it for you I think but don't really pay attention.

 
Agree it sounds a little embellished but she could have gotten a crazy person sitting next to her I suppose. I fly all the time and have never heard the unopened can thing but they usually open it for you I think but don't really pay attention.
the point is that right now anti-Muslim bigotry is not limited to "crazy" people. It's pretty much in vogue in our society, unfortunately. If the guy who spoke to her was identified publicly, he'd be congratulated all over the Internet. He's probably get hundreds of thousands of dollars from a go fund account.
 
I can easily believe that the stewardess wouldn't give her an unopened can and told her that it was because it could be used for a weapon.

The rest of the story sounds extremely unlikely.

Also, I do have some friends that say racist stuff sometimes that gets me mad. But not one of them would EVER say something like that directly to someone. And a much much much larger majority of people I know wouldn't even think to say something like that mong friends because they simply don't feel that way.

The idea that America is filled with racists is ridiculous. Are they out there? Yeah. Are they the majority or even a large plurality? No way.

 
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Agree it sounds a little embellished but she could have gotten a crazy person sitting next to her I suppose. I fly all the time and have never heard the unopened can thing but they usually open it for you I think but don't really pay attention.
the point is that right now anti-Muslim bigotry is not limited to "crazy" people. It's pretty much in vogue in our society, unfortunately. If the guy who spoke to her was identified publicly, he'd be congratulated all over the Internet. He's probably get hundreds of thousands of dollars from a go fund account.
Oh come on.

 
Agree it sounds a little embellished but she could have gotten a crazy person sitting next to her I suppose. I fly all the time and have never heard the unopened can thing but they usually open it for you I think but don't really pay attention.
the point is that right now anti-Muslim bigotry is not limited to "crazy" people. It's pretty much in vogue in our society, unfortunately. If the guy who spoke to her was identified publicly, he'd be congratulated all over the Internet. He's probably get hundreds of thousands of dollars from a go fund account.
If someone actually said this in this context and came public I would guess first that they are a moron and wouldn't be able to string two sentences together and second they would get destroyed by everyone in the media.

Twitter and comment sections on internet articles are the only place I see people say crazy stuff like this.

 
tommyGunZ said:
Interesting that this is the kind of thing that sets off Andy's outrage meter.

Speaks volumes.
Interesting that this is your threshold for considering someone a racist.

Speaks volumes.

 
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ShamrockPride said:
I believe that the guy said that to her. The fact is most people would just look down and avoid eye contact in such a confrontation that they watched play out.

The second part where the pilot said that stuff...that definitely didn't happen. He probably apologized, but to bring up "white privilege?" FOH.
Is Tim a pilot?

 
ShamrockPride said:
I believe that the guy said that to her. The fact is most people would just look down and avoid eye contact in such a confrontation that they watched play out.

The second part where the pilot said that stuff...that definitely didn't happen. He probably apologized, but to bring up "white privilege?" FOH.
Is Tim a pilot?
No, but the guy next to him getting a haircut was a pilot, so now he's qualified to speak for all pilots.

 
Was flying a United flight today. The white male gave everyone the can unopened, while the black male opened the can thereby disarming it. I felt empowered knowing I had such a powerful weapon in my hand. I waited until everyone in the plane opened their can at which time the future of that flight was solely in my hands. I decided to let everyone live and I then proceeded to open my coke.

 
tommyGunZ said:
Interesting that this is the kind of thing that sets off Andy's outrage meter.

Speaks volumes.
Interesting that you immediately take a reasonable question by someone as 'outrage' just because you disagree with their politics.

It would speak volumes if we didn't already know all about you.

 
1. Flight attendant treated a can of Coke (complimentary, and policy on United is not to give full can, but merely a small cup) differently than a beer (not complimentary)? 100% believable.

2. Flight attendant claimed it was because passenger might use unopened can as a weapon? Not very believable.

3. Passenger across the aisle screamed about Muslims and weapons? Not very believable.

4. Pilot apologized re: white guilt and privilege? 0% believable.

5. tommyGunZ and timschochet immediately jump to "OMG racism!?WTF!?!?!" 100% believable.

Due to the obvious lie regarding the pilot, I'll assume that points number 2 and 3 are also false.

 
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