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US and Cuba to have formal diplomatic relations (1 Viewer)

timschochet

timschochet

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Per the news it will be announced tommorow. Embassies to be set up in each Capitol.

 
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Have the Cuban gals been cleared to have their own section on RedTube? That's really what I am interested in. :coffee:

 
Some of the issues being negotiated:

American property seized in Havana in 1958- I imagine we're letting this one go?

American criminals that have sought refuge in Cuba.

Cubans who wish to emigrate to the US.

Cuban human rights violations.

 
I don't care for Obama on domestic policies generally, but, I think he has done well internationally. This is long overdue and I give him credit for finally doing it.

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
Given that it was mostly mob owned, I would imagine that the US government would like it back so it can seize it.

But you are right that it probably is a non-starter.

timschochet said:
American property seized in Havana in 1958- I imagine we're letting this one go?
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We had a wheel barrel stolen from our garage in Detroit in 1984 or so, my Dad still talks about that thing. :shrug:

 
Doctor Detroit said:
RedmondLonghorn said:
Given that it was mostly mob owned, I would imagine that the US government would like it back so it can seize it.

But you are right that it probably is a non-starter.

timschochet said:
American property seized in Havana in 1958- I imagine we're letting this one go?
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We had a wheel barrel stolen from our garage in Detroit in 1984 or so, my Dad still talks about that thing. :shrug:
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:lmao:

 
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Doctor Detroit said:
RedmondLonghorn said:
Given that it was mostly mob owned, I would imagine that the US government would like it back so it can seize it.

But you are right that it probably is a non-starter.

timschochet said:
American property seized in Havana in 1958- I imagine we're letting this one go?
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We had a wheel barrel stolen from our garage in Detroit in 1984 or so, my Dad still talks about that thing. :shrug:
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:lmao:
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:goodposting:

 
timschochet said:
Some of the issues being negotiated:

American property seized in Havana in 1958- I imagine we're letting this one go?

American criminals that have sought refuge in Cuba.

Cubans who wish to emigrate to the US.

Cuban human rights violations.
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Cuba can't pay for the seized American property and businesses, but they can negotiate to give companies like Coca Cola, Exxon, etc the right to do business in Cuba.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
RedmondLonghorn said:
Given that it was mostly mob owned, I would imagine that the US government would like it back so it can seize it.

But you are right that it probably is a non-starter.

timschochet said:
American property seized in Havana in 1958- I imagine we're letting this one go?
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We had a wheel barrel stolen from our garage in Detroit in 1984 or so, my Dad still talks about that thing. :shrug:
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my grandfather, no doubt, would expect to find that wheel barrel in Puerto Rico, not Cuba.

 
Well thankfully we can get back in there, buy up their apparatchiks, replace them with our own corrupt politicians, get some casinos and the mob in there again, build up some cheap beachfront condos, and return the land to what are now our very own Cuban-American millionaires.

Let's get to it, boys, we're back!

 
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Rums and Cigars for everybody!!!

My grandfather lived in Cuba for a while before first coming to this country. I look forward to seeing it.

 
Everyone Heard Cuba Was Reopening, Except For Most CubansThe world woke up on Wednesday to breaking news: After six months of negotiations, the governments of Cuba and the United States finally had reached an agreement, and that embassies would be opening soon in each country.

But while people from around the globe read, heard, commented, tweeted, shared, and liked the avalanche of posts that followed President Obama’s official announcement that 54 years of hostility were coming to an end, many Cubans spent most of the day not knowing about the big news. Many still haven't heard it.

“I have no idea what you are talking about,” the owner of a cafeteria not very far away from the U.S. Interests Section of Havana (where the embassy will be opened in just a couple of weeks), when I asked her around 2 p.m. if she had heard that the Americans will be opening their embassy in Havana on July 20.

How did one of the most important events in the recent history of the country go unnoticed by the general public? Shouldn’t it have spread like wildfire?

No. Because it's Cuba. Those of you who have visited will understand that particularly Cuban feeling of being stuck in the past: It's not just the abundance of American cars from before 1959 and an urban landscape that hasn’t changed much since the 1950’s, it's also the lack of internet availability and its impact on public communication.

The vast majority of Cubans continue to use traditional media outlets to stay current, but even in those cases, they depend on state-run printed newspapers, TV channels, and radio stations that often are in no hurry to break the news — especially when it comes to relevant events that need the approval of official media censors.

By the afternoon, those who had time to buy one of the two eight-page tabloids that are distributed nationally learned that the embassies were reopening. A few radio stations read out the press release. However, it was a workday, and it's not typical of most workplaces to have TVs or radios.

After I spoke to the woman in the cafe (“Try to watch the news tonight!" I told her, walking away), I started asking random people in the street if they have heard about the embassies. Except for an old man sitting on his porch, nobody was aware of anything.

By Wednesday evening, the first expressions of joy and amazement started to appear on social media, from the privileged 5% or so who have access to the internet — mostly intellectuals, journalists, medical personnel, lawyers, and university students.

Thursday is a new day, and word-of-mouth is doing its work. My taxi driver has heard “that thing about the embassies.” News is speading offline, via alternative channels, and the reactions are almost universal: happiness — if for no other reason than because maybe the next time a big story breaks, Cubans will get to read it along with everyone else.
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http://www.refinery29.com/2015/07/90162/havana-cuba-embassy-re-opening-true-story

 
Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
I'm sure that the 200+ dissidents arrested this weekend because they advocate for democracy are very excited about this. But hey, who cares if a few dozen of the Ladies in White were violently hauled away to military prisons, at least Americans have another vacation spot.

http://www.capitolhillcubans.com/2015/06/castro-sticks-thumb-in-senators-eyes.html
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do you favor cutting off diplomatic relations with all non democratic regimes?
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I favor diplomatic relations with Cuba, but it would be nice if the left would ever acknowledge what kind of regime Cuba has.

 
Soonerman said:
Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
I'm sure that the 200+ dissidents arrested this weekend because they advocate for democracy are very excited about this. But hey, who cares if a few dozen of the Ladies in White were violently hauled away to military prisons, at least Americans have another vacation spot.

http://www.capitolhillcubans.com/2015/06/castro-sticks-thumb-in-senators-eyes.html
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do you favor cutting off diplomatic relations with all non democratic regimes?
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I favor diplomatic relations with Cuba, but it would be nice if the left would ever acknowledge what kind of regime Cuba has.
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At least we aren't blowing Putins every chance we get like the right.
 
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NCCommish said:
Soonerman said:
Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
I'm sure that the 200+ dissidents arrested this weekend because they advocate for democracy are very excited about this. But hey, who cares if a few dozen of the Ladies in White were violently hauled away to military prisons, at least Americans have another vacation spot.

http://www.capitolhillcubans.com/2015/06/castro-sticks-thumb-in-senators-eyes.html
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do you favor cutting off diplomatic relations with all non democratic regimes?
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I favor diplomatic relations with Cuba, but it would be nice if the left would ever acknowledge what kind of regime Cuba has.
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At least we aren't blowing Putins every chance we get like the right.
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That might be a devastating retort if I was on the right. Not sure even who on the right is doing that. Certainly way more Putin blowing from Barack than from Mitt for instance. And unlike say Bernie Sanders, I don't think honeymooning in the country with the last surviving regime to have been an ally of Hitler is a great idea either.

 
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It's an interesting country to visit ...like it's been frozen in time for 50+years. But the people are quite wonderful.

 
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