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Drafting from the 10 hole ~ 12 team PPR! (1 Viewer)

Northbound Train

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I've done countless mocks the last few days and I'm out there Jerry and lovin every minute of it :wall:

Seriously though, I've gone in a million different directions and still have zero idea which way I'm going...zero, zilch, nada

DT seems to fall in my lap at 10 more often than not and I'm startin there...then at 15 I've been grabbing Megatron for a nice WR duo (start 3). Or Forte, PPR machine and very reliable? Gronk if you want the best TE/WR minus Brady for4. Shady, DeMarco, maybe ODB, Jordy, AJ, JJ. WTF :rant:

What's everyone thinking here? I know they say drafts are won in the later rounds but you could nail this pair and be off and running early!?!

ODB and Megatron :wub: :wub:

 
I'm right there with you, except in my league someone is keeping ODB so I am effectively picking 11th and 15th.

I agree with you, ideal scenario for me is one of those top WR's (Dez, Julio, Demaryius, ODB) paired up with either Jordy/ Megatron/ Marshawn in the 2nd.

I noticed you didn't mention CJ Anderson. I think his value will continue to rise as it becomes clearer that he is the man in denver and that Ball isn't really a threat. I think he's an excellent option at either 10 or 15 (if there). I like him better than Forte, but I might just be succumbing to the groupthink regarding Forte. Everyone seems scared of drafting him and I'm not sure anyone really knows why (age? different OC? really is that all?).

problem I'm facing if I don't grab at least one WR is that I really don't love the WR options in the end of the 3rd or early 4th. Tate? meh. Benjamin? meh. Mathews? maybe but not a sure thing. In a PPR I think I like Edelman best among those options.

starting from scratch, I think the best bet is to grab a top WR in the 1st, Gronk if available in the 2nd (is ADP is dropping some), and then CJ Spiller (or Frank Gore or Lamar MIller), then maybe Mathews or Edleman in the 4th...

 
I'm in a non PPR, any way we can get the title changed to PPR/Non PPR discussion thread?

Julio Jones is my number 1 WR, so I've been nabbing him at 10. At 15, mostly going Gronk, with some OBJ, Calvin, and DT sprinkled in.

 
I'm thinking aboutn going RB/RB from the 10 spot. Possible CJ Anderson then either Hill or Forsett in rd 2. Then grabbing WR's in the next 3-4 rounds.

 
I'd like to compare teams

Team A

ODB

Mega

RB

RB

Team B

CJ Anderson

Hill / Forsett

WR

WR

Need to mock doing both these scenarios

 
I'm picking 12 in my PPR, but have been considering the similar scenario from the back end. I think the thing to do is fill in the guys you think you could land next, with any kind of consistency. For me personally that ends up being something like:

ODB

Calvin

Randle

Ellington

vs

CJ Anderson

Forsett

Andre Johnson

Edelman

To me, I think I've been most comfortable with the mix and match so far:

CJ

Calvin

Randle

Edelman

But we've got a lot of work and changes in values to still go. I definitely think WR-WR ends up stronger than RB-RB, but that the RB-WR combo might be the way to go.

bulger2holt said:
I'd like to compare teams

Team A
ODB
Mega
RB
RB

Team B
CJ Anderson
Hill / Forsett
WR
WR

Need to mock doing both these scenarios
 
8ebok24 said:
I'm in a non PPR, any way we can get the title changed to PPR/Non PPR discussion thread?

Julio Jones is my number 1 WR, so I've been nabbing him at 10. At 15, mostly going Gronk, with some OBJ, Calvin, and DT sprinkled in.
Personally, I think this is a recipe for disaster in standard scoring. If you go WR/WR or WR/TE, who are you ending up with as your two RBs?

 
Also drafting #10, but for me it's a superflex PPR with performance bonuses for 100-yard games and big play TDs.

DD says the first 12 picks are 4 QBs, 7 WRs and Gronk. But the beauty is that it's a league that will be drafting online at ESPN, so their draft list will be working to my favor.

 
But the beauty is that it's a league that will be drafting online at ESPN, so their draft list will be working to my favor.
This is something alot of people don't pay enough attention to. Check out the default rankings and/or the rankings of the popular sites like ESPN or CBS. That's what the majority of people drafting will use. You can easily play your picks off of those sheets.

 
Also drafting #10, but for me it's a superflex PPR with performance bonuses for 100-yard games and big play TDs.

DD says the first 12 picks are 4 QBs, 7 WRs and Gronk. But the beauty is that it's a league that will be drafting online at ESPN, so their draft list will be working to my favor.
I noticed this in the Draft Dominator too. PPR, 6 pt per TD, 3 WR mandatory start, and it recommends only 3 RBs in the first round rankings. Making it tough to mock on the app (which I enjoyed last year a lot) as I don't find it very likely to go that way in my leagues.

 
I'm having a problem myself finding two really good WRs in R3-4 whereas the likes of CJ, Ingram, Ellington, Randle and Murray are there most often at the turn in 3-4....mock away :loco:

 
Having not read any responses to the thread so far, the correct response here is to draft the best two wrs. You will have the foundation of a great team.

 
I'm having a problem myself finding two really good WRs in R3-4 whereas the likes of CJ, Ingram, Ellington, Randle and Murray are there most often at the turn in 3-4....mock away :loco:
That is good to know. I think this makes the most sense. Would like to see how you guys have the WR's ranked for rd 1 and 2.

Julio

D.Thomas

Mega

Jordy

ODB

Anybody else?

Need 2 of them in rds 1 and 2

 
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I'm having a problem myself finding two really good WRs in R3-4 whereas the likes of CJ, Ingram, Ellington, Randle and Murray are there most often at the turn in 3-4....mock away :loco:
That is good to know. I think this makes the most sense. Would like to see how you guys have the WR's ranked for rd 1 and 2.

Julio

D.Thomas

Mega

Jordy

ODB

Anybody else?

Need 2 of them in rds 1 and 2
You will get whatever falls to you and they are pretty much interchangeable. All are great options, who knows if they get injured or not. In any event, your league will be won on pickups, not on who you draft in the first and second round. Any shark knows that to be true, so it is pointless to fret. Just flip a frikking coin.

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I'm having a problem myself finding two really good WRs in R3-4 whereas the likes of CJ, Ingram, Ellington, Randle and Murray are there most often at the turn in 3-4....mock away :loco:
That is good to know. I think this makes the most sense. Would like to see how you guys have the WR's ranked for rd 1 and 2.

Julio

D.Thomas

Mega

Jordy

ODB

Anybody else?

Need 2 of them in rds 1 and 2
You will get whatever falls to you and they are pretty much interchangeable. All are great options, who knows if they get injured or not. In any event, your league will be won on pickups, not on who you draft in the first and second round. Any shark knows that to be true, so it is pointless to fret. Just flip a frikking coin.

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I hear you. When it comes down to deciding betwen 2 or 3 players, I usually take the less injury concerned one. Like the safer choice. Probably leaves Julio out for me.

 
I'm in a non PPR, any way we can get the title changed to PPR/Non PPR discussion thread?

Julio Jones is my number 1 WR, so I've been nabbing him at 10. At 15, mostly going Gronk, with some OBJ, Calvin, and DT sprinkled in.
Personally, I think this is a recipe for disaster in standard scoring. If you go WR/WR or WR/TE, who are you ending up with as your two RBs?
My league is only required to start 1 RB, and I'm not a fan of McCoy, Murray, and Forte this year.

Most mocks lately I'm starting off with:

Julio

ODB, Gronk, or Calvin

Joseph Randle

Jordan Matthews or Brandin Cooks

 
Also drafting #10, but for me it's a superflex PPR with performance bonuses for 100-yard games and big play TDs.

DD says the first 12 picks are 4 QBs, 7 WRs and Gronk. But the beauty is that it's a league that will be drafting online at ESPN, so their draft list will be working to my favor.
I noticed this in the Draft Dominator too. PPR, 6 pt per TD, 3 WR mandatory start, and it recommends only 3 RBs in the first round rankings. Making it tough to mock on the app (which I enjoyed last year a lot) as I don't find it very likely to go that way in my leagues.
I was having the same problem but you can adjust for this. Change the profile to "Default Auto Draft". Go to the gear icon, select adjust positions up/down. Move the RB to 100%. If the other players in your league mock draft are going by this profile it will be much more representative of the outside rankings.

 
But the beauty is that it's a league that will be drafting online at ESPN, so their draft list will be working to my favor.
This is something alot of people don't pay enough attention to. Check out the default rankings and/or the rankings of the popular sites like ESPN or CBS. That's what the majority of people drafting will use. You can easily play your picks off of those sheets.
I would agree with you if it was 5 years ago. FBG is becoming as common as those other sources. Especially with the success of their app. Two years ago I was the only guy in my league using DD. Last year there was 5. I am betting this year will be a majority.

 
I'm having a problem myself finding two really good WRs in R3-4 whereas the likes of CJ, Ingram, Ellington, Randle and Murray are there most often at the turn in 3-4....mock away :loco:
That is good to know. I think this makes the most sense. Would like to see how you guys have the WR's ranked for rd 1 and 2.

Julio

D.Thomas

Mega

Jordy

ODB

Anybody else?

Need 2 of them in rds 1 and 2
My list:

OBJ/Brown (so close)

Jordy

DThomas

Dez

Calvin

Julio

AJ Green

 
Brown will undoubtedly be gone as will Dez at 10....more than likely anyhow.

Tough call between ODB and DT, those are my next two up.

Julio

Megatron

AJ

Jordy

 
I'm having a problem myself finding two really good WRs in R3-4 whereas the likes of CJ, Ingram, Ellington, Randle and Murray are there most often at the turn in 3-4....mock away :loco:
That is good to know. I think this makes the most sense. Would like to see how you guys have the WR's ranked for rd 1 and 2.

Julio

D.Thomas

Mega

Jordy

ODB

Anybody else?

Need 2 of them in rds 1 and 2
Melvin Gordon, Morris and other solid RB2's are kicking around on the 3/4 turn in almost every draft!!

 
I'm having a problem myself finding two really good WRs in R3-4 whereas the likes of CJ, Ingram, Ellington, Randle and Murray are there most often at the turn in 3-4....mock away :loco:
That is good to know. I think this makes the most sense. Would like to see how you guys have the WR's ranked for rd 1 and 2.

Julio

D.Thomas

Mega

Jordy

ODB

Anybody else?

Need 2 of them in rds 1 and 2
Melvin Gordon, Morris and other solid RB2's are kicking around on the 3/4 turn in almost every draft!!
I am starting to like Randle and Abdullah at the 3/4 turn

ODB

Mega / Jordy

Randle

Abdullah

 
I'm from the 12 spot, but same discussion really. I'm getting comfortable with this starting 4:

Calvin

ODB

Latavious Murray

Ellington

If there is a big WR value that drops, I'll skip one of the RBs there, take the WR value, and try to add Jennings or Foster (+Blue in 7/8) in the 4th/5th turn.

 
I am at 10 in a complete redraft PPR and at 11 in a 2 keeper PPR (Bell/OBJ only 1st/2nd rounders kept). The hard part is having no clue who will be available. That said, I think I am leaning towards WR-WR in both. Both have mandatory TEs, so I think Gronk and Luck will likely both be gone, so should be WR or RB with plenty to choose from. I think the lock RBs (w/out injury they produce) are all gone as well and I think I feel way more confident in Dez/Julio/DT/Jordy than CJ/McCoy/Murray/Forsett/Hill. I think there are question mark RBs/WRs around the 3/4 turn, but I guess I'd rather have only 2 question marks than 3 or 4.

 
I'm having a problem myself finding two really good WRs in R3-4 whereas the likes of CJ, Ingram, Ellington, Randle and Murray are there most often at the turn in 3-4....mock away :loco:
I'm in a non PPR, any way we can get the title changed to PPR/Non PPR discussion thread?

Julio Jones is my number 1 WR, so I've been nabbing him at 10. At 15, mostly going Gronk, with some OBJ, Calvin, and DT sprinkled in.
Personally, I think this is a recipe for disaster in standard scoring. If you go WR/WR or WR/TE, who are you ending up with as your two RBs?
Northbound, you're exactly right. The WR's in rounds 3 and 4 available for a 10 spot drafter are rough. WR's with ADP's after 3.06 that you could get at 3.10 and 4.03 are pretty much only Benjamin and Matthews. Yuck. Even a team of CJ/FORTE/BENJAMIN/MATHEWS i don't see super strong.

The alternate is Julio/OBJ/INGRAM/MILLER. Much stronger IMO. THen you can take another RB soon again to solidify the position. I think late round picks you simply have to go WR and either another WR, or Anderson/Forte if they slip. That's it.

 
I am at 10 in a complete redraft PPR and at 11 in a 2 keeper PPR (Bell/OBJ only 1st/2nd rounders kept). The hard part is having no clue who will be available. That said, I think I am leaning towards WR-WR in both. Both have mandatory TEs, so I think Gronk and Luck will likely both be gone, so should be WR or RB with plenty to choose from. I think the lock RBs (w/out injury they produce) are all gone as well and I think I feel way more confident in Dez/Julio/DT/Jordy than CJ/McCoy/Murray/Forsett/Hill. I think there are question mark RBs/WRs around the 3/4 turn, but I guess I'd rather have only 2 question marks than 3 or 4.
Some pretty solid under the radar, non sexy RB picks at 3.10/4.02. THe WR options there are awful.

 
You CAN win with any strategy, really (RB-RB, WR-WR, RB-WR, WR-TE). It's all in how you draft later and hitting it right with the weaker portions of your team. If you're going WR-WR with the first two,

you better nail it with RBs later. Draft to maximize the scoring in your league. If it's PPR, then WR-WR works very well if you can get high volume guys, and maybe a RB or two in rounds 3-5 that get decent receptions

out of the backfield. What may work out the best is getting the top RB and top WR available at that spot...? Who knows until it plays out?

 
Hmmm, Bloom tweeted about the possibility of starting out with Gronkowski and Luck in the first two rounds. Obviously huge advantages at QB/TE.

Would anyone consider this in a league where QB's get 6pts a TD?

 
Hmmm, Bloom tweeted about the possibility of starting out with Gronkowski and Luck in the first two rounds. Obviously huge advantages at QB/TE.

Would anyone consider this in a league where QB's get 6pts a TD?
I would ONLY consider Luck that high in a 6pt/TD league.

 
I'm liking the talent at RB on the 3/4 turn far better than the WR talent there...as someone else said Benjamin and Matthews, Andre Johnson etc do not excite me here. I've been toying with Gronk on the turn paired with best WR at 10 and then hope I can find a few late round gems at WR

 
tangfoot said:
8ebok24 said:
Hmmm, Bloom tweeted about the possibility of starting out with Gronkowski and Luck in the first two rounds. Obviously huge advantages at QB/TE.

Would anyone consider this in a league where QB's get 6pts a TD?
I would ONLY consider Luck that high in a 6pt/TD league.
I'm in a longstanding 12 team league with 6pt PaTD + yardage bonus. Luck and Rodgers will both be gone by the sixth pick. I think that's high but anywhere in the back half of the round i think is spot on. If you were able to get gronk in the second you would be free to go BPA on RB and WR for pretty much the rest of the draft. Much the remainder of the draft

 
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If we go WR/WR, would anybody consider going Ingram and Spiller at the 3/4 turn? They might be the best 2 RB's on the board at the time of each pick

1) Mega

2) Jordy or Cobb

3) Ingram

4) Spiller

 
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If we go WR/WR, would anybody consider going Ingram and Spiller at the 3/4 turn? They might be the best 2 RB's on the board at the time of each pick

1) Mega

2) Jordy or Cobb

3) Ingram

4) Spiller
I have to say that with the injury to Jordy that going WR-WR seems almost like a must now. The solid WRs lost KB (I thought he was in line for a really good year) and Jordy. I think with those 2 gone, it could be a lot easier to start some WR runs going WR-WR leaving some more RBs at that 3/4 turn.

 
Lots of solid RB talent available at the 3/4 turn, Murray, Ingram, I've seen Gore slide a couple times there, Ameer, Miller, Morris, Ellington and so on before I take to Saints backs...especially how oft injured CJ is

 
Lots of solid RB talent available at the 3/4 turn, Murray, Ingram, I've seen Gore slide a couple times there, Ameer, Miller, Morris, Ellington and so on before I take to Saints backs...especially how oft injured CJ is
I wouldn't take Morris or Ellington before Spiller and Ingram in a PPR. Miller yes

 
If we go WR/WR, would anybody consider going Ingram and Spiller at the 3/4 turn? They might be the best 2 RB's on the board at the time of each pick

1) Mega

2) Jordy or Cobb

3) Ingram

4) Spiller
I have to say that with the injury to Jordy that going WR-WR seems almost like a must now. The solid WRs lost KB (I thought he was in line for a really good year) and Jordy. I think with those 2 gone, it could be a lot easier to start some WR runs going WR-WR leaving some more RBs at that 3/4 turn.
Agree with this. Going WR-WR will dry up the pool of the elite guys very quickly, and anyone who went WR in the 1st and was considering WR-WR will have their hand forced, and all the RB guys will probably be chasing WR too. Then when you come back in the 3rd - boom, you may get Miller or Gore sliding all the way down.

 
I have pretty much decided I am going Mega and Cobb in rd 1 and 2. Just hope I can land Murray or Ingram in rd 3. Really not sure about Gore this year.

 
1) Mega

2) Cobb

3) Ingram

4) Tate

5) Blount

6) Gurley

7) Woodhead

8) Royal

9) Walker

10) Stafford

Hate it so far?

 
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Go wr/rb

All the posts suggest you need to go wr/wr or rb/rb

CJ

Calvin

Randle

Edelman

Not too shabby

 
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Very happy with my draft today. Won this $$$ league last year from the same spot.

.5 PPR start 1 RB 1 WR 3 Flex

Waivers never close so I went for depth at RB because these guys were RB hogs on game day last year

Julio Jones

Megatron

Mark Ingram

Joseph Randle

Steve Smith

Shane Vereen

Giovani Bernard

Martellus Bennett

Tre Mason

Philip Rivers

Mike Wallace

Texans D

Kenny Stills

Cody Parkey

Most didn't want to admit it but said I had the best team. Lots of unorthodoxed drafting. Guys taking 2 QBs early. The guy at the 12th pick took Luck in the 1st and Peyton Manning in the 4th. Not sure why. He claims trade bate. Rivers in the 10th is sick value. Was hoping Brady would fall there, but was taken earlier in the round by the guy who took Matt Ryan the round before. SMH

 
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Here's who I got from the 10 spot tonight in FFPC. Very happy with it:

Julio

CJA

Sanders

Ingram

Cooper

Ivory

Russell Wilson

Walker

Cruz

Duke Johnson

Perriman

Eli

BUF D

Ebron

Artis-Payne

Hauschka

Virgil Green

Huff

Cotchery

Watson

 
Here's mine from last night. 1/2 PPR. Start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WR, 1 W/R/T, 1 K, 1DST

1. Antonio Brown

2. Calvin Johnson

3. Mark Ingram

4. Melvin Gordon

5. Greg Olsen

6. TJ Yeldon

7. Matt Ryan

8. Roddy White

9. Markus Wheaton

10. Devonta Freeman

11. Eli Manning

12. Marvin Jones

13. Darren Sproles

14. Brandon Coleman

15. Antonio Gates

16. Colts

17. Matt Prater

Not sure how I feel about my WRs after the top 2. They really flew off the board which is the opposite of what they usually do in this league. I know I don't need Eli and Ryan, but the guy picking behind me in the 11th was the only one without a QB, so I wasn't letting him grab Eli. Most WRs were gone at the point, so Eli was really the best available. Not in love with it, but it's not too bad.

 
Can't believe Julio and Brown were avalaible at 10. I'd be pretty happy with either.
Agreed. Just had my 10 spot PPR draft last night. Brown went 8th, Julie went 9th, was hoping one of them would be there. 1-7 was a RB fiesta run, so the WR-WR strategy was looking good. I ended up WR-QB because Luck was still there at 2.3 and in our scoring (6pt passing TD and bonus 3pts for 300 yards and 400 yards (so in our league it was like he threw 45+ TDs last year). I love my team (start QB-RB-RB-WR-WR-TE-Flex). We also have a really stupid 20 transaction for the year limit so I went Seattle D way earlier than I wanted because you really can't stream Ds with 20 transactions.

OBJ

Luck

Hopkins

Matthews (flex)

Gore (I thought about him instead of Matthews, but worked out that he was still there 18 picks later)

Foster (Blue got snaked from me in the 8th in a really random pick that didn't help that team, pissed about that one)

Seattle (anti-streaming due to new transaction limit)

Wright (good match ups during OBJ/Hopkins/Matthews byes)

Jennings (needed someone who would play as my RB2 while Foster is out)

Rudolph

Gates (TEBC once Gates back)

Hauschka

Cobb

Matt Jones

Winston (decent match up in Luck's bye, should be decent by then and has weapons)

In DD, the team was way above the rest of the teams. My RB2 is a little rough early, but if Foster gets healthy, I like the starting lineup of:

Luck

Gore/Foster

OBJ/Hopkins

Matthews

Gates

Hauschka

Seattle

 

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