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Geno Smith what does future hold? (1 Viewer)

Carter_Can_Fly

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I searched some old threads and the discussion in them was dated and did not help.

In dynasty, I am trying to evaluate who or what I have in Geno Smith. There are obviously a ton of negatives at the present moment in regards to Geno and who he is. Part of that comes from NY media and fantasy football fans lambasting anyone who even remotely under achieves.

Geno is still young (25 years of age). He was pressed into one ugly situation his first couple of years with a defensive minded coach and not a ton of weapons at all. In his lone action this year coming in after the first drive as Fitz was hurt he played decent. Geno did some good things as he completed 27 of 42 attempts for 265 yards with 2 td's and 1 int and a qb rating of 87.9. He also had 2 rushing attempts for 34 yards. He still made some young qb mistakes as he did not throw the ball away a couple of times and took some unnecessary hits while scrambling down the sideline. But young qb's make mistakes see Andrew Luck for a comparison. Yet after the game all some people wanted to do with Geno was talk about the negatives. Had another 25 year old qb come in and played this way does he face that same criticism?

At some stage the Jets need to turn to Geno this year to have a look at what they have going forward. Bowles is trying to follow what Bruce Arians did in Arizona by playing a veteran qb to have success. The only problem is Arians has Carson Palmer (an actual good NFL qb) and Bowles has Ryan Fitzpatrick (should have been a career back up and spot starter). The Jets have zero chance of winning a championship this year and Fitz has zero chance of ever leading them to a championship going forward, so the play seems to make the move to Geno. Keep in mind Geno was in line to start this upcoming year prior to being punched by a teammate. Now I get you need not put yourself in situations like that, but it happened and it is time to move on. He did not get a DUI, he did not beat his wife and he had an immature disagreement with a teammate. One which caused the team to cut the teammate.

There are only 4 starting QB's in the entire NFL that are 25 years of age or younger: Bortles 23, Carr 24, Teddy 23, and Winston 21. Geno just turned 25 years old a month ago. The Jets have a 5 and 4 record at the present time with Fitz as the starter. The Jets still have not beat a team over .500. I have no doubt in my mind that Geno could have had this team at 5 and 4. In 2013 as a rookie Geno lead the team to an 8-8 record. Fitzpatrick has been who he has always been through his career, a below average starter. He is completing less than 60% of his passes and is not going to take you to places you want to get. With Fitz hurt and the Jets being an average team that does seem however to be moving in the right direction it seems like the perfect time to play Geno in the back half of this year.

What do you think?

 
At some stage the Jets need to turn to Geno this year to have a look at what they have going forward.
No, they don't. They're in the playoffs right now and their schedule is very easy going forward.
Was going to post the same thing. Fitz isn't a top 10 QB, but he's playing well. Maybe if the Jets are out of it, they throw in Geno the last game or two, but otherwise no chance.

I do agree that Geno deserves another shot at some point. Hard to say when that will be or if it's with the Jets.

 
At some stage the Jets need to turn to Geno this year to have a look at what they have going forward.
No, they don't. They're in the playoffs right now and their schedule is very easy going forward.
Was going to post the same thing. Fitz isn't a top 10 QB, but he's playing well. Maybe if the Jets are out of it, they throw in Geno the last game or two, but otherwise no chance.

I do agree that Geno deserves another shot at some point. Hard to say when that will be or if it's with the Jets.
Fitz is playing how he always plays which is average to below average and when you need him to come up big and beat someone he falters. Ask the Bills, Titans, and Texans fans what you get with a guy like Fitz. It does not end well.


I think you play Geno now as he would have the exact same record or perhaps better as what you are getting with Fitz, however Geno has a higher ceiling and therefore you may get more against better teams when it matters.

The Jets have already had an easy schedule and are still only one game above .500 and just lost to an inferior opponent at home in Buffalo. I think it is time to reevaluate the qb position.

 
A Clipboard (old joke but I couldn't resist)

When a fifth string linebacker punches your starting QB in the face and no one

comes to the QB's defense it's time to move on.

 
I searched some old threads and the discussion in them was dated and did not help.

In dynasty, I am trying to evaluate who or what I have in Geno Smith. There are obviously a ton of negatives at the present moment in regards to Geno and who he is. Part of that comes from NY media and fantasy football fans lambasting anyone who even remotely under achieves.

Geno is still young (25 years of age). He was pressed into one ugly situation his first couple of years with a defensive minded coach and not a ton of weapons at all. In his lone action this year coming in after the first drive as Fitz was hurt he played decent. Geno did some good things as he completed 27 of 42 attempts for 265 yards with 2 td's and 1 int and a qb rating of 87.9. He also had 2 rushing attempts for 34 yards. He still made some young qb mistakes as he did not throw the ball away a couple of times and took some unnecessary hits while scrambling down the sideline. But young qb's make mistakes see Andrew Luck for a comparison. Yet after the game all some people wanted to do with Geno was talk about the negatives. Had another 25 year old qb come in and played this way does he face that same criticism?

At some stage the Jets need to turn to Geno this year to have a look at what they have going forward. Bowles is trying to follow what Bruce Arians did in Arizona by playing a veteran qb to have success. The only problem is Arians has Carson Palmer (an actual good NFL qb) and Bowles has Ryan Fitzpatrick (should have been a career back up and spot starter). The Jets have zero chance of winning a championship this year and Fitz has zero chance of ever leading them to a championship going forward, so the play seems to make the move to Geno. Keep in mind Geno was in line to start this upcoming year prior to being punched by a teammate. Now I get you need not put yourself in situations like that, but it happened and it is time to move on. He did not get a DUI, he did not beat his wife and he had an immature disagreement with a teammate. One which caused the team to cut the teammate.

There are only 4 starting QB's in the entire NFL that are 25 years of age or younger: Bortles 23, Carr 24, Teddy 23, and Winston 21. Geno just turned 25 years old a month ago. The Jets have a 5 and 4 record at the present time with Fitz as the starter. The Jets still have not beat a team over .500. I have no doubt in my mind that Geno could have had this team at 5 and 4. In 2013 as a rookie Geno lead the team to an 8-8 record. Fitzpatrick has been who he has always been through his career, a below average starter. He is completing less than 60% of his passes and is not going to take you to places you want to get. With Fitz hurt and the Jets being an average team that does seem however to be moving in the right direction it seems like the perfect time to play Geno in the back half of this year.

What do you think?
Question: Did you actually watch the Raider game or are you just looking at mediocre stats and trying to pretend there was something there because you have him on your dynasty team?

He had a decent game, but but in the fourth quarter showed why he will never be a successful starting quarterback. He has no field or game awareness at all. It was just "not throwing the ball away a few times."

 
I searched some old threads and the discussion in them was dated and did not help.

In dynasty, I am trying to evaluate who or what I have in Geno Smith. There are obviously a ton of negatives at the present moment in regards to Geno and who he is. Part of that comes from NY media and fantasy football fans lambasting anyone who even remotely under achieves.

Geno is still young (25 years of age). He was pressed into one ugly situation his first couple of years with a defensive minded coach and not a ton of weapons at all. In his lone action this year coming in after the first drive as Fitz was hurt he played decent. Geno did some good things as he completed 27 of 42 attempts for 265 yards with 2 td's and 1 int and a qb rating of 87.9. He also had 2 rushing attempts for 34 yards. He still made some young qb mistakes as he did not throw the ball away a couple of times and took some unnecessary hits while scrambling down the sideline. But young qb's make mistakes see Andrew Luck for a comparison. Yet after the game all some people wanted to do with Geno was talk about the negatives. Had another 25 year old qb come in and played this way does he face that same criticism?

At some stage the Jets need to turn to Geno this year to have a look at what they have going forward. Bowles is trying to follow what Bruce Arians did in Arizona by playing a veteran qb to have success. The only problem is Arians has Carson Palmer (an actual good NFL qb) and Bowles has Ryan Fitzpatrick (should have been a career back up and spot starter). The Jets have zero chance of winning a championship this year and Fitz has zero chance of ever leading them to a championship going forward, so the play seems to make the move to Geno. Keep in mind Geno was in line to start this upcoming year prior to being punched by a teammate. Now I get you need not put yourself in situations like that, but it happened and it is time to move on. He did not get a DUI, he did not beat his wife and he had an immature disagreement with a teammate. One which caused the team to cut the teammate.

There are only 4 starting QB's in the entire NFL that are 25 years of age or younger: Bortles 23, Carr 24, Teddy 23, and Winston 21. Geno just turned 25 years old a month ago. The Jets have a 5 and 4 record at the present time with Fitz as the starter. The Jets still have not beat a team over .500. I have no doubt in my mind that Geno could have had this team at 5 and 4. In 2013 as a rookie Geno lead the team to an 8-8 record. Fitzpatrick has been who he has always been through his career, a below average starter. He is completing less than 60% of his passes and is not going to take you to places you want to get. With Fitz hurt and the Jets being an average team that does seem however to be moving in the right direction it seems like the perfect time to play Geno in the back half of this year.

What do you think?
Question: Did you actually watch the Raider game or are you just looking at mediocre stats and trying to pretend there was something there because you have him on your dynasty team?

He had a decent game, but but in the fourth quarter showed why he will never be a successful starting quarterback. He has no field or game awareness at all. It was just "not throwing the ball away a few times."
I watched the game he was not perfect no doubt, but still was enough positives to say there could be something. In the same breath have you watched Fitzpatrick's career? Is there a point sticking with him or why not gamble for that small chance that Geno starts to get it.

 
I searched some old threads and the discussion in them was dated and did not help.

In dynasty, I am trying to evaluate who or what I have in Geno Smith. There are obviously a ton of negatives at the present moment in regards to Geno and who he is. Part of that comes from NY media and fantasy football fans lambasting anyone who even remotely under achieves.

Geno is still young (25 years of age). He was pressed into one ugly situation his first couple of years with a defensive minded coach and not a ton of weapons at all. In his lone action this year coming in after the first drive as Fitz was hurt he played decent. Geno did some good things as he completed 27 of 42 attempts for 265 yards with 2 td's and 1 int and a qb rating of 87.9. He also had 2 rushing attempts for 34 yards. He still made some young qb mistakes as he did not throw the ball away a couple of times and took some unnecessary hits while scrambling down the sideline. But young qb's make mistakes see Andrew Luck for a comparison. Yet after the game all some people wanted to do with Geno was talk about the negatives. Had another 25 year old qb come in and played this way does he face that same criticism?

At some stage the Jets need to turn to Geno this year to have a look at what they have going forward. Bowles is trying to follow what Bruce Arians did in Arizona by playing a veteran qb to have success. The only problem is Arians has Carson Palmer (an actual good NFL qb) and Bowles has Ryan Fitzpatrick (should have been a career back up and spot starter). The Jets have zero chance of winning a championship this year and Fitz has zero chance of ever leading them to a championship going forward, so the play seems to make the move to Geno. Keep in mind Geno was in line to start this upcoming year prior to being punched by a teammate. Now I get you need not put yourself in situations like that, but it happened and it is time to move on. He did not get a DUI, he did not beat his wife and he had an immature disagreement with a teammate. One which caused the team to cut the teammate.

There are only 4 starting QB's in the entire NFL that are 25 years of age or younger: Bortles 23, Carr 24, Teddy 23, and Winston 21. Geno just turned 25 years old a month ago. The Jets have a 5 and 4 record at the present time with Fitz as the starter. The Jets still have not beat a team over .500. I have no doubt in my mind that Geno could have had this team at 5 and 4. In 2013 as a rookie Geno lead the team to an 8-8 record. Fitzpatrick has been who he has always been through his career, a below average starter. He is completing less than 60% of his passes and is not going to take you to places you want to get. With Fitz hurt and the Jets being an average team that does seem however to be moving in the right direction it seems like the perfect time to play Geno in the back half of this year.

What do you think?
Question: Did you actually watch the Raider game or are you just looking at mediocre stats and trying to pretend there was something there because you have him on your dynasty team?

He had a decent game, but but in the fourth quarter showed why he will never be a successful starting quarterback. He has no field or game awareness at all. It was just "not throwing the ball away a few times."
I watched the game he was not perfect no doubt, but still was enough positives to say there could be something. In the same breath have you watched Fitzpatrick's career? Is there a point sticking with him or why not gamble for that small chance that Geno starts to get it.
Because Fitzpatrick has played well enough and I have zero confidence in Geno. He does more damage than good and it's not just because he's young and making "rookie" mistakes in his THIRD season. He doesn't have the mental fortitude to be a successful NFL QB. He doesn't have the leadership to be a successful NFL QB. He has terrible accuracy.

He has a strong arm and good athleticism, but he's a terrible quarterback.

Fitzpatrick has his limitations but knows the offense and the team responds to him. When watching him play, I feel the team has a chance. When watching Geno play I'm waiting for him to make the play to give the game away (and he seldom les me down).

I don't think you really watched the Raider game based on why you claim people criticized him.

 
A Clipboard (old joke but I couldn't resist)

When a fifth string linebacker punches your starting QB in the face and no one

comes to the QB's defense it's time to move on.
He lost the players. He has no future with the jets but he should go somewhere to fight for a starting gig. Houston, San Fran, Washington, Arizona if Palmer retired? Maybe even the Broncos bring him in to compete with oz, but Brock will probably win that spot.

 
Geno may be the dumbest QB I have ever seen.

He has no concept of throwing the ball away to avoid losing yardage.
Repost of my quote while watching the 11/1 game against the Raiders.

Thought it bears repeating.

He is lost. All the time.

Drop him for a backup punter.

 
Question: Did you actually watch the Raider game or are you just looking at mediocre stats and trying to pretend there was something there because you have him on your dynasty team?

He had a decent game, but but in the fourth quarter showed why he will never be a successful starting quarterback. He has no field or game awareness at all. It was just "not throwing the ball away a few times."
I watched the game he was not perfect no doubt, but still was enough positives to say there could be something. In the same breath have you watched Fitzpatrick's career? Is there a point sticking with him or why not gamble for that small chance that Geno starts to get it.
Because they don't have Geno on their fantasy teams.

 
No way would the Jets be 5-4 if Geno had started all of the games. Fitzpatrick might not be that great, but he is still much better than Geno, who is terrible.

 
No way would the Jets be 5-4 if Geno had started all of the games. Fitzpatrick might not be that great, but he is still much better than Geno, who is terrible.
You sure about this? Losing to Houston today in typical Fitz fashion.

Like I was saying earlier Fitz is not good and should be considered nothing more than a good back up QB. He is fools gold. You need to let Geno play because you know who Fitz is and you are not going anywhere with him. Sure you may not go anywhere with Geno but he has a higher ceiling and is young. Even if you think it is low odds he is your future you should have a look. I think today was yet another example of why you turn to Geno as there is probably zero drop off regardless going forward.

 
Good for Geno. Just about everyone scoffed at him being - and for Carroll making him - the starter. But he’s done a more than credible job. And with the Seahawks defense, he’s going to be airing it out a lot.

I am skeptical his success will last all season, but have to give credit where credit is due.
 

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