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Waiver Wire Week 12 (1 Viewer)
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AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Coleman
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Rank 'em
Allen
Coleman
Ware
Allen
Coleman
Ware
shadyridr
Footballguy
he looks pretty solid to me. Solid is good enough for me. The flacco injury limits his upside to an rb2 though
1) Allen
2) Ware
3) Coleman
Allen is in a separate class, because he's locked in as a starter for the season. Freeman is likely back next week, and West is likely not done for the season.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
I know...any RB w/ a pulse is well worth an add. I just can't get excited about Buck Allen w/ Schaub @ QB & zero outside threats in that offense.
I'm gonna roll the dice on Spencer Ware as hammy injuries can linger; maybe West winds up having to deal with it RoS.
I'm gonna roll the dice on Spencer Ware as hammy injuries can linger; maybe West winds up having to deal with it RoS.
I felt that way about Draughn, with Gabbert at QB and no reliable WRs...it's the NFL. Volume covers a multitude of weaknesses.
shadyridr
Footballguy
exactly. Volume makes you an automatic rb2
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
When woodhead is an rb1, anybody getting 15+ touches has value. And a decent amount of value at that
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ATB
Footballguy
That's only without Michael Floyd out there IMO. Cards are already resistant to use DJohnson bc he's a rookie. Nelson falls into obscurity once Floyd returns for the same reason: Bruce Arians hates rookies.
Aside from the obvious ones, if kc defense is on your wire still grab them. They are the real deal guys. They're healthy now and the secondary is playing way better. Their pass rush is ferocious. They single handedly won me my matchup this week after I picked them up.
Eta their next 2 games not as juicy BUT their playoff schedule:
Week 14: vs SD
Week15: @ Balt (with no flacco, no Forsett, no steve smith)
Week 16: vs cle
Eta their next 2 games not as juicy BUT their playoff schedule:
Week 14: vs SD
Week15: @ Balt (with no flacco, no Forsett, no steve smith)
Week 16: vs cle
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Sarlakticacid
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Any D playing Bal.
With pick 6 at the QB position
With pick 6 at the QB position
zamboni
Footballguy
Seems like every week "experts" are recommending streaming TEs against the Raiders, yet most don't work out. Matchups almost always look better on paper than in real life.
Even if West is out, do we know Ware has the job? Knile Davis was a healthy scratch this week, but you have to assume if West is out he's back in the mix. And I wouldn't put *too* much stock in Ware's performance yesterday; San Diego has flat-out quit on the season.
I'm not totally crapping on Ware's chances, just pointing out there are a lot more questions.
I'm not totally crapping on Ware's chances, just pointing out there are a lot more questions.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
I agree shady. He is getting snaps, receptions, TDs, and now Gore is at least dinged. Bradshaw still is who we thought he was.
Even with a healthy Gore I wonder if they don't prefer Bradshaw near the goalline with the ability to score the receiving TDs like he did last year (3 in the last 2 games).
KC is definitely the top WW D if they're available, but Houston is a decent fallback if they were dropped after the Miami blowout. Earlier this week they were on the wire in both of my 16-team leagues (only got them in one, unfortunately).
Tough match-up this week vs NO, though it is at home. But they're playing well enough that I'd consider just rolling them out there ROS.
Also, as long as we're talking Houston, Hoyer may have been dropped due to his concussion. He'll likely be back this week and has put up strong numbers in every game he's finished this year.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Disagree here. I think they moved on from Davis months ago. They chose West, then Ware over him. I think Ware gets the workhorse load if West is out and gets some touches even with a healthy West. Add to that the KC D is playing great and they have winnable games for each of their last 6 on the schedule.
You know, you may be right. I had assumed Davis was a healthy scratch for roster-construction purposes (ie, he doesn't play special teams or something). But it's happened two weeks in a row.
zamboni
Footballguy
Gillmore is normally a great add, but the Flacco injury definitely makes it less certain. On one hand, Flacco and he seemed to have good chemistry, but on the other hand, Schaub will likely be chucking the ball a lot and maybe locks in on him. It's not not like they have great options - Aiken is decent but not exactly Steve Smith.
JFS171
Footballguy
Go watch the tape. He runs like a bull... Ware is legit, I'm just surprised no NFL team has given him an opportunity yet.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
I wonder if Vernon Davis is coming on as an option down the stretch. Stands to reason that it would have taken him a few games to get caught up. 6 for 60 yesterday. Available in both of my leagues.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
I think there is actually quite a bit of juice on the wire this week that can help in the FF playoffs. Devin Funchess produced in his first ever start and I think he played >80% of the snaps.
Yeah, I have Gates and Gillmore, but unless I hear specific info about Gates being limited again, there are too many questions surrounding Gillmore to start him over Antonio.
(Not strictly a WW conversation, but may be useful for people considering adding CG).
beerbuff
Footballguy
WR- Funchess, Inman, Crowder could all be good hit or miss flex plays in ppr.
RB: Allen will be top priority as no competition so good floor but low ceiling due to QB situation. Ware, Bradshaw, Turbin could all be great potential injury fill ins with a good chance of seeing playing time in the coming weeks.
TE: Davis and Carrier.
QB: Osweiller and Hasselbeck
RB: Allen will be top priority as no competition so good floor but low ceiling due to QB situation. Ware, Bradshaw, Turbin could all be great potential injury fill ins with a good chance of seeing playing time in the coming weeks.
TE: Davis and Carrier.
QB: Osweiller and Hasselbeck
mikel2014
Footballguy
I'd like to hear some more on what people are seeing/expecting out of Davis. Most people added him when he was first traded, and now his production is picking up.
Is 6 for 60 a reasonable floor going forward? I can envision him benefiting from Brock taking over.
mnmplayer
Footballguy
In fairness to those analysts like Bloom who recommend playing any streamer TEs vs Oak, I iirc the past two weeks both TEs dropped easy TDs vs Oak, so the reasoning is sound.zamboni said:
a lot of obvious choices this week at RB, which were already named. I would recommend all West owners go hard to the hole for Ware, except most of us have already gone hard to the hole for West, so it looks like I am bit worse [off] for Ware this week.
Not only is he a great streaming option this week, he may be a good option for ROS. For one thing, if you toss out Week 1 (when he was inexplicably benched for Mallett) and last week (when he left early with a concussion), he's thrown for at least 230/2 in every game he's played this year. And while the NO match-up is a great one, the rest of his schedule isn't scary either:
12: NO
13: @BUF
14: NE
15: @IND
16: @TEN
I own him in two leagues, one where I have Taylor and another where I have Tannehill. Tyrod could get another start or two, but there's a chance I roll with Hoyer on both teams the rest of the way.
Insein
Footballguy
rugcleaner
Footballguy
RB
Rawls
Buck
Coleman
Ware
Bradshaw
Turbin
Draughn vomit
QB
Osweiler
Wintson (monitor Cnn Rape documentary)
DEF
CLE (they get first crack at Schaub and their rested off a bye
Rawls
Buck
Coleman
Ware
Bradshaw
Turbin
Draughn vomit
QB
Osweiler
Wintson (monitor Cnn Rape documentary)
DEF
CLE (they get first crack at Schaub and their rested off a bye
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Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
None of those matchups are decidedly great when evaluated on FP allowed to QBs basis..other than NO. Hoyer should be a top 10 option this week with a very safe floor against NO.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
James Jones if he was dropped.
I'm pretty sure it's the o line and the scheme in kc that makes the RBS look good and not the other way around.
Jamaal Charles is a special talent, no doubt. But any Rb they put behind that line is having success. Davis, west, ware. Really doesn't matter.
Put Davis, west, or ware on a team with a more mediocre o line and I think they get exposed for what they are. Average RBS.
Hoyer has already produced solid games against Indy (middle-of-the-pack D) and Atlanta (top pass D in terms of FPA). He's produced against everyone.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
I agree. Thinking of starting him over Aaron Rodgers in one league this weekend and picking him up to play over Brady in the other. Brady has just lost too many weapons and that is not the same 30-40 point offense from the beginning of the year.zftcg said:
Yeah..love me some Hoyer.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Keshawn Martin? Amendola left with a knee on Monday night. Don't know severity.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Lol! Not at all. Can totally see how it reads that way.
Rodgers and Brady's weapons have been compromised and their floor and ceiling are both lower now. Hoyer is higher than both in the prelim Tremblay rankings for week 12.
