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Bob Magaw

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There were some previous threads that have been archived, SO, once more unto the breach.

Gimme Shelter - Criterion film, one of the greatest music docs I've ever seen, from the '69 Tour, culminating with a death in the audience of the Altamont Free Concert caught on camera. Unfortunately just the first 53 minutes (full doc is approx. 90 minutes), so misses much of the Altamont climax, but some great footage of a Madison Square Garden show near the end of the tour, as well as in the Muscle Shoals Studio while they were recording part of Sticky Fingers. This movie is not only in some ways one of the most important "Death of the '60s" documents, but also very post-modern and META. Early on, the editor advised the directors (famous Maysles bros documentarians, among other works, also shot the Beatle-mania America invasion and conquest in '64, Salesman in '68 may have been the first documentary "feature", as well as Grey Gardens) the best way to treat and work with the material was to shoot and cut the movie in a way in which it became a film inside a film, in which the unfolding events could be shown to the Stones and you could see their reactions and comments. Highly recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeuYW5w7Ixw

Ladies And Gentleman may be the best pure concert movie within the general time frame that was arguably at or near their peak ('72 Exile On Main Street Tour?), for me roughly corresponding to Mick Taylor's lead guitar tenure, which is available on DVD/Blu-ray, but not seeing in full on YouTube, either.

Haven't checked out yet, but intend to soon, the Rolling Stones From The Vault Series has a few entries from their classic, "Golden Period"*, a relatively short/mid-length (1 hour?) DVD/CD in '72 from the Marquee Club, as well as a 2+ hour DVD in '75 from the LA Forum, which was Ronnie Wood's first tour.

* Consensus the four album run from Beggars Banquet - Let It Bleed - Sticky Fingers - Exile On Man Street (though some may tack on Goats Head Soup to the end?)

 
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Maybe Godard's Sympathy For The Devil?

I remember Gimme Shelter. My old work friend's mom is actually in the clip where the guy gets stabbed, according to him. I believe him. He had a traumatic relationship with his mother, and blamed it on that.

I always loved Garcia et al. and their reaction to the disaster of hiring the Hell's Angels as bouncers even after they'd seen gang rapes at La Honda, according to Tom Wolfe.

 
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To make it clearer, Wolfe describes in the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test the relationship between the hippies and the Angels, and it wasn't pretty. The Angels were invited out to Ken Kesey's ranch in La Honda, CA and had gang sex with a woman, a scene Wolfe depicts and then later regrets as the worst thing he's ever written. It's hard to fathom that since the Dead was at this scene that they would be surprised by anything the Angels would do years later in Gimme Shelter -- even though they blamed Mick. They might have even agreed not to play, IIRC. And they shouldn't have ever stuck around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Electric_Kool-Aid_Acid_Test

Trying to find a link to the interview where Wolfe refers to the professor's wife 37-person -or-so gang bang as the most regrettable thing he had written.

More TK if interested.

 
I assumed when Lesh and Garcia were informed of the Hells Angels antics (Jefferson Airplane's Marty Balin was knocked out on stage while taking vocal exception during an interruption in the middle of their performance?), this was why they opted to not play. But on the commentary track, it was pointed out that because the concert was running very late due to all the extracurricular delays, they backed out so the Stones wouldn't have to start so late.

Another comment was that it was a meeting day for the Hells Angels leadership, so at least until later in the day, most of the bikers present were pledges (PLEDGE PIN!) anxious to prove their worthiness with displays of fearlessness and violence.

The spectator that died at the hands of the Angel (there was reportedly at least one other accidental death, possibly more?) brandished a gun and may have discharged it in the air - who brings a gun to a concert? The Stones couldn't see it at the time, but did when they later saw the freeze frame, it was clearly visible. The Hells Angel was charged with murder but was acquitted on the grounds of self defense. The police were unaware the death was caught on film, so director Al Maysles called them, and it was the key piece of evidence in the trial (obviously). Murders are captured sometimes by security footage, but this may have been the first and only time something like this was recorded spontaneously while filming a documentary (excepting war footage, like the notorious Vietnam execution)?

The Hells Angels were a initially more concerned the film would be used as evidence to CONVICT rather than exonerate one of their own (who decades later died by what the police called a suspicious drowning), and attempted to extort the Maysles bros. for $1 million. Not that they would have paid it, but they didn't have it after already having invested a half million of their own independently financed money. At a meeting, one of them was assaulted, and they were also threatened that if they didn't either cough up the money or destroy the original negatives, they would have contracts placed on their lives. The Hells Angels were also livid when they felt Jagger had blamed them for all the problems, and the FBI later claimed there was a planned attempt on his life at a home on the Northeast coast, which was foiled when a storm swamped their approach by boat. That appears to have been the only attempt.

Jagger (in consultation with the rest of the band?) still hadn't given his official consent to turn the raw footage into a film for theatrical release - the director/editor noted the original ending, which may have been a freeze frame on Jagger after watching the disturbing Altamnt post-mortem, which is still placed near the end, but now shows them getting out of Dodge in the helicopter, was rightfully resented by the vocalist as surreptiously fingering him for blame. Fortunately, Al Maysles knew the co-director with Nic Roeg of Performance which had starred Jagger (he later committed suicide), and after being shown the film and liking it a lot, assured him he could secure the release from Jagger, which he promptly did.

Also pointed out during the commentary that charismatic co-founder Brian Jones had been considered the leader, but after recently drowning in his pool (the Hyde Park memorial and tribute was new lead guitarist Mick Taylor's first gig?), the '69 tour was kind of Jagger's coming out party as the front man for the Stones.

There was an insightful passage in one of the accompanying Criterion essays, in which the writer observed you can almost see at one point during the fateful rendition of Under My Thumb, dawning recognition register on Jagger's face that some of the dark and heavily violence influenced lyrics of some of their songs (Street Fighting Man, Sympathy For The Devil, Midnight Rambler) may have made him complicit to a degree in the seemingly pervasive undertow of evil that day.

It would be natural to think they should have just stopped playing and walked off the stage (it crossed my mind, but I dismissed it for the following reason), but they always insisted later fearing a full blown riot if they had cut their performance prematurely short. Guess we'll never know.

 
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To answer Bob, I think it was the Dead that should have known not to stick around, nor participate once they found out, and the stain wouldn't have been on them, too. I would hope that for them, actually. I wasn't wishing for the Stones not to keep playing. Bob's broader points about not playing inciting a riot is more than taken. Watched a show where a ten-minute diatribe about Platonic notions of beauty led to a skinhead/patron brawl. It was '90s hardcore. Shelter/108 show in New Britain, CT. Kids almost got killed. Crowd control is huge and sometimes you need to perform. Guy should have shut up and sang for his Krishna supper that night.

It's like Raiders/Pats '02, in a way.

Heh.

eta* I'm a former Jerry Garcia-hating punk that now loves the Dead and American Beauty is one of the best albums I've ever heard. And still a punk at that.

 
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Now the Stones? Already moved on from Bowie?
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Multi-tasking. :)

[[thread aside/digression]]

Still trying to catch up with just Bowie's prolific STUDIO output. I've been sick for a few days, so yesterday listened to the first Eno collaboration after more than a decade and a half from Berlin Trilogy capper Lodger '79 - Outside '95, and his next, the drum and bass Earthling (those albums ROCK). On deck, his next three (Hours, Heathen and Reality) before his decade long silence broken by The Next Day '13, and ultimately, his final statement Blackstar - really like the last two, what a great way to go out.

Also listened to the '03 Ken Scott mix of Ziggy Stardust and a two disc compilation of single edit and B side rarities from '69-'73. Scott was the producer from the peak of his classic period, Hunky Dory through Pinups (right before Diamond Dogs), while Tony Visconti produced Space Oddity and The Man Who Sold The World right before that, and after Bowie's self-produced DD helped mix Young Americans and resumed production with my favorite era, Station To Station and the Berlin Trilogy, as well as most of the albums through to the end and Blackstar. Scott was one of just five people to engineer the Beatles (not counting PRODUCER George Martin, Norman Smith, who went on to produce the first couple Pink Floyd albums, Geoff Emerick, Glyn Johns, Allan Rouse, ?), helped with George Harrison's All Things Must Pass* in addition to the signature Phil Spector Wall Of Sound production, the string sessions for Sticky Fingers by the Stones, as well as fusion classics such as Birds Of Fire by the Mahavishnu Orchestra and Spectrum by Billy Cobham.

* Also squeezed in Let It Bleed and ATMP, the latter was a revelation in the 96/24 hi res version. It will always be a dense murky mix because of the congested and redundant instrumentation/orchestration (as many as 4-5 rhythm guitarists alone on some tracks), with more musicians than the crowd scenes in The Ten Commandments - but that is partly what gave the unique sound some of its magic. The high res version creates some instrumental and lead/backing vocal separation, opens up some of the dense mix congestion and to a degree lifts a sonic veil off the original recording, sounding like you are in the studio with the "cast of thousands" musicians, at the board with Spector on his 10th/20th cherry brandy.

 
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rockaction said:
To answer Bob, I think it was the Dead that should have known not to stick around, nor participate once they found out, and the stain wouldn't have been on them, too. I would hope that for them, actually. I wasn't wishing for the Stones not to keep playing. Bob's broader points about not playing inciting a riot is more than taken. Watched a show where a ten-minute diatribe about Platonic notions of beauty led to a skinhead/patron brawl. It was '90s hardcore. Shelter/108 show in New Britain, CT. Kids almost got killed. Crowd control is huge and sometimes you need to perform. Guy should have shut up and sang for his Krishna supper that night.

It's like Raiders/Pats '02, in a way.

Heh.

eta* I'm a former Jerry Garcia-hating punk that now loves the Dead and American Beauty is one of the best albums I've ever heard. And still a punk at that.
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The Dead didn't play, but they were among the principal organizers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamont_Free_Concert

I like a lot of Dead, Rockaction. I watched/listened to a few of the retirement shows last year, and recorded the last PPV show, good times. The '72 European Tour free form jams, '74 jazz (Dead Movie), '73 psychedelia, '76 Blues For Allah, '77 scuzzy Mu-Tron reggae. Eyes Of The World might be my favorite song. But I also liked the folk/Americana period you are referring to, which harkened back to their country/bluegrass roots. My favorite part of the Dead movie was at the beginning during the animated segment when Garcia's solo album song The Wheel was playing, with the geometric patterns.

 
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Life - BBC doc companion to Keith Richards' autobiography (VIDEO 1 hour), '14?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT-ArKNdtKY

"To mark the publication of Keith Richards' autobiography, Life, this BBC2 Culture Show special looks at the life of the man with five strings and nine lives. In a candid interview he chats to Andrew Graham-Dixon about his childhood in Dartford, his passion for music and the decade that catapulted the Rolling Stones from back-room blues boys to one of the greatest rock 'n' roll bands in the world."

* Also, Keith Richards '15 musical doc Under The Influence (81 minutes) available streaming from Netflix. Check out the positively SMOKIN blues solo by formative influence Buddy Guy at about the 26:20 mark. :) Another highlight was around the 46:40 mark, where drummer Steve Jordan prompts "human riff" Keef to play some bass, as well as talk about how he played multiple instruments and rhythm/lead guitar lines on songs like Jumping Jack Flash and Street Fighting Man, whereupon he breaks down the multi-tracks on the latter (with some period studio footage with Charlie Watts).

 
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Charlie Is My Darling in three parts (VIDEO 45 minutes?), official release of a '65 tour in Ireland, by Peter Whitehead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IATRNfmgmM

The same director of London 66-67 (VIDEO 30 minutes), with a Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, Syd Barrett in his prime-led Pink Floyd performing a psychedelic blowout, 16 minute rendition of Interstellar Overdrive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVrembZ7dVE

Sweet Summer Sun: Live In Hyde Park, (VIDEO 110 minutes - image reversed?) official concert video release '13 from the 50 Years And Counting Tour, returning to the scene of their famous '68 memorial show right after founding member/recently quit Brian Jones' tragic drowning, with a one off reunited lead guitarist Mick Taylor on two tracks, Midnight Rambler and closer Satisfaction - the '68 show replacing Jones was his first gig with the band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJyeBbma70

 
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AUDIO

The below replicates the two bonus discs from the 2015 Super Deluxe 3 CD Sticky Fingers (pretty close to the Stones apex)

Disc 2

Alternate Brown Sugar featuring Eric Clapton (Slide Guitar)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuVax7iMM6Y

Alternate Wild Horses (Acoustic)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQTHB4jM-KQ

Alternate Can't You Hear Me Knocking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXd6O321Ruc

Alternate B!T(# (Extended Version) Mick Taylor on fire and NASTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35SCxo9dBX8

Alternate Dead Flowers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrsToLa3XEo

Live At The Roundhouse '71 (30 minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj04ed1uWUs

Disc 3

Live At The University Of Leeds '71 (68 minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih2EzG-uiIg

 
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Know your Stones

Ian Stewart, the forgotten, "Sixth Stone"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stewart_(musician)

Brian Jones, the First Stone 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Jones

Brian Jones: Sympathy For The Devil, obit from the Rolling Stone Magazine archives, dated 8-9-69

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/brian-jones-sympathy-for-the-devil-19690809?page=2

NY Times review of the bio, Brian Jones: The Making Of The Rolling Stones

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/arts/brian-jones-the-making-of-the-rolling-stones-a-biography.html?_r=0

 
My pleasure, Sandeman.

Sometimes I do this as a kind of bookmark for easy reference, so on the bonus plan if others appreciate it, too. Thanks.

 
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