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#1 jacobo_moses



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Posted 15 April 2012 - 09:04 PM

Does anyone know why the Dolphins would sign a guy to a 3yr deal when he was a Street Free Agent and hasn't played Football since 2006 in High School? http://www.thephinsi...rown-experiment Not sure what to make of this? :shrug:

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 09:23 PM

The longer the contract, the better it is for the Dolphins as they'll capture all of his upside at a very minimal price. And if he sucks, they cut him with no guaranteed money. If this guy had any other teams sniffing around his door, he would have had the leverage to negotiate a shorter-term deal for himself. ETA: I see the Packers were also interested, but I'm betting all the Dolphins had to do was throw in a very minimal signing bonus and he was done.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 09:27 PM

They answer to any possible idiotic move by the Dolphins seems to be:

"cuz they're the dolphins"

Edited by rizzler, 15 April 2012 - 09:27 PM.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:10 PM


Sorry son, but I don't have to dumb down The Sport just so noobs like you have a chance at keeping up.

I play in a $4,000 entry, Super-WCOFF, triple-reverse, double down, mirror league with a modified PPFDR base 8 scoring system, and we just held our draft in July. For the 2013 season. You think Matt Barkley getting the start in USC is news? I drafted him after studying up on him, after he signed his letter of intent, last year. You think that maybe going with a WR in the first two rounds instead of back-to-back RBs is somehow new thinking in fantasy? Well, do you have the balls to do what I did this year when I didn't take my first RB until the fourth round (Roderick Smith, Harding High School of Indiana)? You've probably never even heard of Martavis Bryant, Kyle Prater, or Darius White, yet not only did I draft them this year to form my future WR core, I've also started referring to them by fantasy board nicknames (Super Mart, KPrater, & DoubleDarius). Hell, guys like you are going to be the poor schmucks who are searching this board five years from now for info on some great RB you just heard of out of the middle of nowhere in Alaska, and the FBG search result box is going to come up with this very post, where I brag about nabbing Isaiah Weeks of the Monroe Catholic Rams at the 25.32/26.01 turn a full two months before he lit up Delta Junction for 193 yards/2 TDs or Ketchikan for 183 rushing yards, 55 rec yards, & 2 TDs. You'll be wondering about his durability and I'll remember a phone call I made back when you were just hearing the name "Knowshon Moreno" for the first time to the kid's doctor in Fairbanks about the sprain he suffered in his left ankle in 2008.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:22 PM

Looking at the artcle--and at his personal stats elsewhere--it seems their interest is in a 6'4" 238 pound receiver who ran a 4.4 40 and had a 39 inch vertical at a BYU pro day. They can always drop him, and now they get to see what he has in mini camps before the draft. Not much downside to the move.

Edited by The Football Freak, 15 April 2012 - 11:25 PM.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:36 PM

Here's the video of his Pro Day. Doesn't look like an NFL player to me.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 06:32 AM

he is a total sleeper i talked to his mom and she says he sleeps straight thru the night and doesnt even need a bottle or wake up actually in all seriousness i would not waste time with this its just not worth it he does not look that good you heard it hear first take it to the rockabye brohans in the tree top

Edited by SWC, 16 April 2012 - 06:33 AM.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 06:59 AM

Raiders did the same recently. They signed a 6'5" 250 lb basketball player Andre Hardy out of Fullertson St to see if he works out as a TE. He's 25 yo and hasn't played football in 7 years. Same 3 year deal. Teams are looking for the next Antonio Gates or Jimmy Graham on the cheap, trying to catch lightning in a bottle. Since they don't have draft eligibility, they can sign prior to the UDFA's. But these guys don't have the measureables to likely succeed at the next level. Most likely camp fodder. Nothing to see here.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 07:13 AM

Raiders did the same recently. They signed a 6'5" 250 lb basketball player Andre Hardy out of Fullertson St to see if he works out as a TE. He's 25 yo and hasn't played football in 7 years. Same 3 year deal. Teams are looking for the next Antonio Gates or Jimmy Graham on the cheap, trying to catch lightning in a bottle. Since they don't have draft eligibility, they can sign prior to the UDFA's. But these guys don't have the measureables to likely succeed at the next level. Most likely camp fodder. Nothing to see here.


Jets signed TE Hayden Smith.The former Australian rugby star earned a spot on the U.S. national team after playing Division 2 basketball at Metropolitan State in Denver. His background suggests a level of athleticism that could pay off as a long-term developmental project behind Dustin Keller. He won't be guaranteed a roster spot this year

ESPN New York reports the Jets are showing "serious interest" in Australian rugby star Hayden Smith, who projects as a tight end in the NFL.A week shy of his 27th birthday, the 6-foot-7, 240-pound Smith played college basketball for Metropolitan State in Denver before taking up rugby and making the U.S. national team. Smith has reportedly visited a "number of NFL teams," and was hosted by Gang Green in early February. According to his personal coach, he has already signed with the Jets, though the team has yet to make anything official.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:44 AM

Here's the video of his Pro Day. Doesn't look like an NFL player to me.

It'd be neat if he made it, but I agree with the above-looks awkward running, a little uncoordinated, does a wind up twice reaching for the end point in the cone drill,and his butt came off the bench every single rep doing 225.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 08:32 PM

Chiefs Show Interest In Little Known TE Prospect Les Brown

Apr 2nd, 2012 at 8:29 am by Patrick Allen

The team attended Baylor’s Pro Day and showed some interest in a little known TE prospect by the name of Les Brown.

Why is Brown virtually unknown?

Because he didn’t play college football.

Brown has a really interesting story. He’s been an athlete all his life but actually played basketball in college, not football, for the Westminster Griffins. For the last two years he’s been working in the accounting department at Gay Global Capital.

Brown decided he wanted to make a go of it in the NFL and so he attended Baylor’s Pro Day, where his brother Braden plays offensive tackle.

Despite not having any recent football experience, Brown wowed scouts, including representatives from the Chiefs, with his athletic talents. The 6’4″, 238-pound Brown ran a 4.44 in the 40 (on a sprained ankle) and added a 39-inch vertical jump and 10’3″ broad jump. He also did a nice job catching the ball, according to Sports Illustrated.

As you’ll see in our exclusive interview below, it has been decided that Brown is an unrestricted free agent, meaning that any team that wishes to sign him may now do so. More after the interview.

Les, you are a very interesting prospect that until recently, most fans and probably even draft experts, haven’t heard of. You didn’t play football in college but instead chose to go with basketball. I’ve read that you did play football in high school.

What position did you play?

I was an all-state wide receiver in high school and also played defensive back and special teams. My junior year, I led the state in TD receptions during the regular season. As a senior, I helped lead my team to the 4A State Championship Game.

What prompted you to try to get the attention of NFL scouts this year?

Athletics has played an invaluable role throughout my life and the lives of my family members.

My younger brother Braden, the starting offensive right tackle for BYU, really encouraged me to pursue football once my basketball career ended. He believes that I have the talent and work ethic to ball out on Sundays and I tend to agree! His support and encouragement has been amazing.

I’ve been blessed with athletic talent and want to use those talents while I’m young and can contribute to the on-field success of a team.

Have you found out yet from the NFL whether you’ll have to enter the draft or if you can be immediately declared a free agent?

My agent has confirmed that I am considered an undrafted rookie, which according to Article 6 Section 11 of the CBA authorizes me to negotiate and sign with any team immediately.

I’m hungry for this opportunity and ready to move forward and show a team what I can contribute.

Talk a little bit about the workout and what it was like to work in front of all those NFL scouts, especially given your lack of experience.

I would first like to thank head coach Bronco Mendenhall and strength coach Jay Omer for allowing me to participate in their BYU Pro Day. Without their approval, I would not be in the position that I am in now so I really appreciate their consideration.

I really enjoyed working out for the scouts—especially getting their feedback and instruction.

Even though Pro Day is a high adrenaline, high pressure venue, I was at ease because I knew I had prepared well; all I had to do was repeat what I had done in training hundreds of times.

My dad always taught me that top performers reach their highest achievements on the biggest stages—for me, Pro Day was a big stage.

Can you talk a little bit about your interaction with the scouts from the Chiefs in particular? Did they have any specific questions for you?

The Chiefs scout was a nice guy and I really enjoyed talking with him at the Pro Day.

He took a personal interest in getting to know me and my background. He also had me take a test.

I am grateful that my interaction with him has led to this opportunity.

It can be difficult for even late-round draft picks to make an NFL roster, let alone undrafted free agents or guys off the street. Guys often find themselves bouncing around from team to team and from the roster to the practice squad and back again. Whether you are drafted or get a camp invite after the draft, how are you preparing for the uphill climb it will be making it in the NFL?

I know I can help a team achieve the highest level of success, and I will persist in my efforts until I find the right mutual fit.

I have a strong resolve, I am disciplined, and I am hungry. I will do whatever it takes to reach my goal of contributing on Sundays.

I trained very hard to showcase my abilities on Pro Day and I will continue to train in order to be ready when my opportunity to make a team presents itself.

Which NFL team did you pull for growing up?

Growing up in Utah, we didn’t have a local pro team, so I had to adopt an out-of-state team.

I really looked up to my Uncle Preston, and he was a rabid Vikings fan, so I joined him in rooting for Minnesota.

I know you have to be diplomatic here and say you’d be happy to play anywhere but is there a particular team/organization that you could see yourself fitting in with?

You’re right, I’ll be happy to play anywhere!

As a basketball player, I realize my background is non-traditional, so I need to find a team willing to give me a shot—a team that recognizes me as an athletic, coachable player, who is willing to earn the respect of coaches and players alike.

You ran a 4.44/40 for the scouts which is very impressive for a guy your size. I also understand you had a bit of a sprained ankle. How did you sprain the ankle and how did you stay in such great shape despite being out of athletics for a while?

My right ankle was pretty tender because I was only 12 days removed from a grade 3 sprain, but the adrenaline and emotion surrounding the Pro Day along with my relentless desire to achieve helped me power through it.

I hurt it at the NFL Regional Combine in Cleveland, OH on March 17th.

I owe a huge thank you and shout out to Chad Ikei at Ikei Performance for allowing me to train with him for the three months leading up to Pro Day. Chad is the best trainer around and my training with him really helped me to be at the top of my game.

Antonio Gates was able to make the transition from basketball player to All-Pro TE. Is he a guy you look to for inspiration as you make a go at this?

Antonio Gates is an incredible player, and I’ve always admired his ability.

Likewise, I’ve been inspired by many other TEs with basketball backgrounds, including Jimmy Graham and Tony Gonzalez.

The TE position in the NFL is really evolving. The big guys are getting more action than ever before and with teams moving to multiple TE sets, the position is very valuable to an offense. What do you think you’ll be able to bring to an offense? Do you see yourself as more of a pass catching threat, a blocker or an all around threat?

With my speed, I have the ability to get down field, stretch the defense and make plays as a pass catching threat.

But my size, frame and mentality will also allow me to play a role in blocking schemes so I can be an all-around threat.

I think that is what a lot of teams will want in a TE because it creates flexibility from a personnel standpoint if the TE can put a hand on the ground, as well as flex out in space.

Lastly, is there anything you’d like to add about why an NFL team should take a chance on you and bring you to camp? What can you add to their organization?

I consider myself a winner, and I’ll bring that attitude to work every day.

I’ll be the first one in and the last one out.

I’ll do the work—whatever it takes to be a great teammate and coachable contributor.

My “path” to the NFL is far from conventional but my journey to this point is what defines me as the person and athlete that I am today. I am hungry and determined to be an impact player on Sundays.

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Chiefs signed Brown to a contract after the NFL Draft. Sure, the team has Tony Moeaki and Kevin Boss but past those two, there really isn’t much depth at TE. With the way the league is moving now, with teams using multiple TE sets, a player like Brown could be a nice project for the Chiefs to perhaps add to their practice squad.

As noted above, Brown wouldn’t be the first basketball player to make the transition to NFL TE. Antonio Gates, one of the league’s best at his position when healthy, did exactly the same thing.

What do you think, Addicts? Will Brown be worth a camp invitation?

Special thanks to Les for taking the time to speak with us and to Evan Brennan for setting everything up.

Edited by Faust, 16 April 2012 - 08:50 PM.