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  1. Did you ever hear of "bong hits for Jesus"?
  2. I'd go back to at least 2006 and the Hassert Rule killing the bipartisan agreement that had the votes in both houses and support in the White House. And it has been a subset of one side that has refused to negotiate at all ever since.
  3. I am beginning to think that I misunderstood the meaning of "projector guys" when it was a thing around here.
  4. Not sure if I just posted the same thing or the exact opposite. I expect the 3PM speech to be mostly read and rather accurately reflect an underwhelming compromise. I then expect Trump to start tweeting and his talking heads to start repeating how he is giving "'the dems" everything he is not actually offering.
  5. I'm guessing Saturday at 3 is so few people see it to grasp the disconnect between the speech at 3 and the tweets at 8 or 9.
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    Obamacare: Obama just straight up lied to you, in your face

    I'm surprised that Paul would suffer through being on a long wait list to have a procedure performed in Canada. Such heroism.
  7. Lets not give Mitch and the GOP senate a free pass to stay hidden in the corner to keep from needing to do anything that will be remembered.
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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Thread

    Name one person that participates in the economy and doesn't pay any taxes. And even the claim that x% pay no federal income tax is nonsense since we have (or were) robbing from payroll taxes for thirty or so years to help pay for income tax cuts. Social Security lock box or tax cuts targeting top earners - which do we have?
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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Thread

    Agreed! Supporting new, higher top brackets with higher tax rates doesn't require the level of stupidity that electing Trump required. In fact it just requires a basic understanding of economics. Maybe 70% at ten million is not the optimal rate and maybe it is an exaggeration to suggest that here is a consensus at this number (but study after economic study hit around that number). Pretty sure that even Arthur Laffer has suggested we are well to the left side of the Laffer curve.
  10. OK You can have your stupid wall. It shall be paid for by undoing the tax cuts for the 1%. That covers the construction cost. The cost of the shameful symbol that the wall represents will be paid for by having an immigration policy that anyone that asks to get in is allowed in with some reasonable vetting (what is reasonable is for the non wall side to decide). Those already here would be treated as if they retroactively asked in. For the period necessary for vetting existing undocumented folks they will gain access to anything they are currently prohibited from receiving such as subsidized health insurance on the exchanges. There will be no obstacles for citizenship and in being granted citizenship they will be provided with whatever ID is necessary to vote where applicable. Dreamers can be vetted first. Deal?
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    The Mike Pence Thread

    That is assuming that Pence isn't indicted first.
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    Universal Healthcare proposals in NYC and California

    Isn't California down to about 7% uninsured, about 3 million people with about 60% undocumented adults? If those numbers are roughly correct then I'd guess the price tag is about 15 billion (lazily using $5000 per person which is a bit more than private per capita in 2014 and a bit less than medicaid per capita so ball park nice round number that is admittedly outdated). Since California spends about 200 billion a year that would add 7 or so percent to that spending. Which I believe is the first real problem in California in that they have some constitutional amendment that requires some percentage of funding to go K-12 education. Now this is for universal health care where these 3 million people are rolled onto California's version of the exchanges and/or Medicaid. I think the supporters in California are OK with this as part of a transition plan but ultimately the goal would be single payer. That would be a heavier lift as there would be these primary challenges- Convert from paying for insurance with premiums mostly as part of employment to paying for insurance with taxes. This is about 15 million or so people. So instead of 5K make this 6.6K for an even 100 billion that would now be collected as taxes rather than premiums. (And how that X% for K-12 education.) Work out waivers with the federal government for Medicare, Medicaid, "ObamaCare", and probably few other programs to allow those federal funds to be used by California's single payer. This may be especially problematic with a hostile administration. Assuming that California also eliminates the out of pocket costs for its 35 million residents that would be another 50 billion or so to absorb that isn't just shuffling which line the payroll deduction is coming from. I don't live in California nor do I really follow their politics. I just have a thumbnail idea of what is wanted and rough numbers. Most importantly though I think the best way to solve challenges like this is to list out the problems to be solved. Those seem to be mostly political challenges in explaining where the money is going and how Californians would benefit. Oh, and all of the numbers above ignore the savings that would be achieved and simply assume that costs were static. Billing one payer instead of hundreds alone (not counting millions of individual) alone would drive massive cost out of the equation. Then again this would put a bunch of back office people out of work. It will be fun to see if those from California disagree with this or list other challenges. ETA: Don't know about NYC ETA2: For that first part I should point out that the cost aren't just the state paying the full premium on 3 million people. If they did that there would be 3 more million who would stop paying to get in line for the state to pay the full thing. Instead there would be some level of sweetening the incentives such that most of those opting out would sign up along with making some eligible. There are also some that are just going to opt out regardless. And while not for the "illegals" some percentage of this is going to fall under federal programs paying a share. But I figure whatever percentage isn't part of this would flow to some of those already in the various programs. So as I stated I lazily just went 3 million people times $5000 per as "close enough" for now.
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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Thread

    Because she's young, female, charismatic, and has a face for television. And unashambly advocates for positions that most Democrats (at least office holders) try to shy away from giving an opinion on.
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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Thread

    Stuff like what? Youthful exuberance? Not worrying too much that Trump will do anything similar? Or, maybe you might mean being on the correct side of issues such as climate change, universal health care, basic income guarantee 💖, taxation, and opinion of Trump. No worries there either.