Hell must be getting a bit chilly right now. I have enjoyed solving the world's problems with you. Now, if only the politicians could be as smart as fantasy football nerds. :football:So, we have something both sides agree with in regards to private sales / gunshow loophole - whatever you want to call it - and really very few feel that already legal and available guns should be banned. The magazine capacity seems to be moving in favor of the pro-gun rights side, but not by landslide. We have a couple pro-ban who have crossed over to the "it doesn't matter," but that issue only seems about 60:40. I would be in favor of a non-government controlled "database" or original sales listing with gun owners required to keep FFL approved bills of sale to provide a paper trail of ownership, and identification or driver's license tags on people prevented by law from owning guns. If gun owners conceded this, could we then take the magazine limitation off the table?I'm of the opinion that magazine limitations are worthless. They shouldn't even be on the table. I don't see how anyone can justify this as a means of prevention. There just isn't a significant difference in the outcome between a 6, 10, 15, or 30 round magazine when considering the total shots that can be fired. It would be nice to see Feinstein watch a demonstration of someone shooting and reloading a revolver. Let her count, out loud, how many shots they can fire in 10 minutes. That would be eye opening.I realize there's a whole bunch of gun people who can re-load extremely quickly. I get that. But that doesn't mean that some crazed madman like Jared Loughner is able to do it. The fact is that some of these guys are tackled when they are trying to re-load. Therefore, I think we can make the reasonable assumption that if any of these killers had been forced to re-load after 10 bullets rather than 30 (or whatever the number was) lives would have been saved. That's why I continue to find your denials ultimately unconvincing.They found that the Newtown killer reloaded most of his mags after firing 10-15 rounds out of each one. That didn't seem to slow the killing there.