Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

JayJay328

Members
  • Content Count

    168
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Everything posted by JayJay328

  1. Personally I have Johnson in my RB6-10 range for Dyno drafts. Rookie RBs I have clearly ahead of Johnson in my upcoming rookie drafts Gurley Gordon Yeldon Coleman Abdullah Mixed in with Ajayi Johnson Cobb Allen Jones
  2. I'm not a huge Ellington fan, but to be fair it seems people's memories are very short. There were serious questions as to whether Ellington would start the season on the PUP or even miss the entire year when he hurt his foot late in training camp. It was a serious injury whether one wants to admit it or not, and it would seem pretty logical that a serious foot injury would slow a RB like Ellington down. The rest of the RBs rostered by Arizona at the time were not legitimate options so the team had no choice but to push Ellington out there. As some one that doesn't see Johnson as a great prospect (I think he's soft), I'd still avoid this situation completely due to it's murkiness (unless either back came very cheaply which I doubt), but I don't think the injury angle is really an "excuse", it's a legitimate possible explanation. What makes you think he's soft? He had 1007 touches in college. Admittedly there's only two game cut ups out there so it's a small sample size, but I don't think he attacks defenders and looks to avoid contact (despite his size). At times he actually looks like he pulled back to brace for the hit instead of falling forward and gaining those extra yards or two. It may not be a huge deal, but it's just my opinion on him based on the info that I have. He's in a good landing spot at least and he does fit the Arians offense. Soft? Seriously? You and I have VERY different definitions of soft. Soft is guys like CJ Spiller who sit games due to a thigh bruise. Soft is guys who miss games with minor ailments as far as NFL RBs go. Not players who play with torn ligaments. You want to talk about his running style? Cool, he is a shifty back, not a bruiser or pound you looking for contact type of runner. That doesn't make him soft. As for all this discussion on Johnson, listen to the coach. He is not a liar or unreliable as some may suggest when it comes to how players will be used. He said preseason last year that Ellington would be a "bellcow back", and he was. The year before he was mostly forth coming in the same way. This year he has already stated Ellington will be used in the same role. I'd expect if Johnson is capable he will have a role but I'll bet Ellington will lead this team in RB touches by quite a bit, say 60 - 65%. In todays NFL that's significant. RB2 (13-18 range) with upside. I'm assuming you are referring to the interview where the coach and GM were talking about Johnson post draft, but referred to Ellington briefly. If you consider that, in the context of the entire interview, as a ringing endorsement for Ellington, I would beg to differ. Watch the whole interview. Don't just cherry pick the things you want to hear. I'm not saying that Ellington is garbage or anything, but from a dynasty perspective you just can't hook your wagon to a RB who is the lightest guy on the field with an extensive history of injuries and expect long-term production. As much as I hate Rotoworld since they cherry pick things they want to hear when the want to hear them, they agreed with me at the end of March. I'm sure they have changed their mind by now because this will undermine their rankings, but this is what they said on March 25: Coach Bruce Arians said the Cardinals would "like to have a bigger back."The Cardinals asked Andre Ellington to be their workhorse last season, a role his 199-pound frame was ill-equipped to handle. His yards per carry dropped off a cliff with a heavier workload, which strongly suggests Ellington is more suited for a change of pace role.I'm referring to anything Arians has said about Ellington in the off season. Johnson will have a role most likely but the Cards were going to add a RB because teams need multiple players at that position no matter who the starter is. Ellington will have to either lose the job or Johnson will have to steal it by outperforming him. None of which makes Ellington "soft". Injury prone? Maybe, but I stopped placing that label on guys after Fred Taylor. Injuries happen and there is no way to predict them.
  3. Bahahahahahaha! It cracks me up when guys like you know better about a teams RB usage than the HC of that team!Huh? Can't a guy have an opinion? I personally agree with him. David Johnson is a beast. The HC has said that Ellington will be a focal point of the offense before the draft. Now they draft a 3rd round RB and it's his job to lose? Again, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ETA - Johnson could very well come in and impress and steal that position away, such is pro sports, but his job to lose is a statement I can't help but laugh at.
  4. Bahahahahahaha! It cracks me up when guys like you know better about a teams RB usage than the HC of that team!
  5. I'm not a huge Ellington fan, but to be fair it seems people's memories are very short. There were serious questions as to whether Ellington would start the season on the PUP or even miss the entire year when he hurt his foot late in training camp. It was a serious injury whether one wants to admit it or not, and it would seem pretty logical that a serious foot injury would slow a RB like Ellington down. The rest of the RBs rostered by Arizona at the time were not legitimate options so the team had no choice but to push Ellington out there. As some one that doesn't see Johnson as a great prospect (I think he's soft), I'd still avoid this situation completely due to it's murkiness (unless either back came very cheaply which I doubt), but I don't think the injury angle is really an "excuse", it's a legitimate possible explanation. What makes you think he's soft? He had 1007 touches in college. Admittedly there's only two game cut ups out there so it's a small sample size, but I don't think he attacks defenders and looks to avoid contact (despite his size). At times he actually looks like he pulled back to brace for the hit instead of falling forward and gaining those extra yards or two. It may not be a huge deal, but it's just my opinion on him based on the info that I have. He's in a good landing spot at least and he does fit the Arians offense. Soft? Seriously? You and I have VERY different definitions of soft. Soft is guys like CJ Spiller who sit games due to a thigh bruise. Soft is guys who miss games with minor ailments as far as NFL RBs go. Not players who play with torn ligaments. You want to talk about his running style? Cool, he is a shifty back, not a bruiser or pound you looking for contact type of runner. That doesn't make him soft. As for all this discussion on Johnson, listen to the coach. He is not a liar or unreliable as some may suggest when it comes to how players will be used. He said preseason last year that Ellington would be a "bellcow back", and he was. The year before he was mostly forth coming in the same way. This year he has already stated Ellington will be used in the same role. I'd expect if Johnson is capable he will have a role but I'll bet Ellington will lead this team in RB touches by quite a bit, say 60 - 65%. In todays NFL that's significant. RB2 (13-18 range) with upside.
  6. Should have just stuck with EJ. A worse record would not matter since they missed the playoffs and 28 games played instead of 14 would be a better sample size to judge what you have.
  7. After the deal Palmer signed I don't think they will draft a QB too high.
  8. So happy they are winning. Surprised too. Orton was efficient last week, like a veteran should be. Still think this regime has to make the playoffs to be kept. 8-8 or 9-7 and just missing out doesn't cut it. Changing the Asst. GM to GM shouldn't get you extra years to get the job done.
  9. Ryan Williams is horrible. Just stop people, the guy has done nothing since 2009 at VT.
  10. It's still hard to believe that the Bills got Hughes for Kelvin Sheppard. Hughes has become one of the best edge rushers in the game and Sheppard has 5 total tackles this year. and yet some Bills fans want to fire Whaley because he took a chance on EJ Manuel that didn't work out. that trade was pure theft. It was a great trade for the Bills. When I look at the current regime I start when they took over in 2010. Whaley does not get a pass because he was assistant GM for most of those years. So let's not forget drafting CJ just to give away Lynch. Those 2 moves right there are an equalizer for the Hughes deal. One trade does not erase the Williams trade, an inept offensive line that has had enough picks spent on it to be better. The team needs to make the playoffs for the Whaley regime to be kept IMO. If the team can keep winning despite 2 turnovers a game from Orton then maybe they should look at giving Whaley & co. a chance to find an answer at QB. Otherwise, just move on.
  11. Boy you just couldn't wait until they lost with Orton huh. EJ stinks, move on. No, I want them to win every game. If he were to play great and win I'd change my feelings about the switch pretty quick but it's not going to happen, Orton is a known quantity, he sucks. There is a reason he lost his job to out of the league Tim Tebow.
  12. So 2 weeks into the Orton switch, 1-1, he plays meh in the first with a majority of his yards coming from YAC but he made one real nice throw. In the second he loses the game by straight giving away 10 points to the Pats off turnovers. One of which came after the D gave the ball back to him. So frustrated with this team.
  13. the GM who drafted him is already gone. TONS of QBs and players drafted in round 1 turn out to be busts. Why is this so special that it warrants this type of reaction? Also, pretty sure it was the coaching staff who wanted to go all-in with EJ. That's why Marrone was apparently pissed they brought in Orton when they did. So, I don't think the coaches think EJ sucks...they just think Orton gives them a better chance to win now, and they are correct IMO. Whaley was assistant GM since 2010. When he took over right after last seasons draft he took credit for being a driving force in the Manuel pick. Not your average 1st round mess up.14 games in and he is pulled? Little different from your average bust. I don't think he is necessarily a bust yet but if they give up on a kid after 14 games then something is seriously wrong with your scouting department/GM or your coaching staff is making the wrong call. Disagree on the last part too, Manuel is 6-8 in his 14 games while Orton is 6-21 over his last 27 games. Lost his Job to Tebow and looked horrible when he played in Dallas. Win now? Win what exactly? Defense is average, offensive line is bad, weapons are young and inexperienced. Let the QB grow or fall on his face.
  14. If the coaching staff is right and Manuel sucks then fire the GM and scouts now for drafting a QB in round one it only took 14 games for the coaches to figure out couldn't play. Or get rid of a coach who is hindering the long term development of the franchise QB to save his own butt. It's one or the other.
  15. BenJarvus Green-Ellis to the white courtesy phone please........
  16. The Rotoworld rhetoric and hyperbole must stop. They look pathetic. Morris is stone hands? So because his idiot of a coach does not know how to use any of its players the last few years, he has stone hands? Did Rotoworld not see how he led all the elite superstars without stone hands in receiving in the ProBowl? Its unreal almost their attempt to show all they are is a retweet site with useless rhetoric. They even go on to compare the carries last year to a far less superior power back to a more superior scat/cop back. Morris >>>>>> The Firm Bernard >>>>>>>>>> Helu Rotoworld at it's finest. Helu is the best pass protector? Not according to the HC of the Redskins.
  17. I wonder if that's a little misleading. you always see passing backs, like felix jones or whoever, putting up inflated ypc simply because of the situations they're in on the field. I'm not saying I know this to be the case with ellington, but I'd be suspicious of it. On first down, Ellington had 54 rushes for 333 yards, 6.1 ypc and 9 first downs.
  18. Well there you have it then I guess. Hall of Fame career locked in. Please show where my previous post says anything about the HOF. Morris has shown great talent/ability in his first 2 seasons. Please read above post. The only argument against him would be a change in the coaching staff. While I understand this argument I do not necessarily agree with it. Looking at the Bengals usage of their RBs from 2011-2013 while Gruden was the OC it looks to me as though he will utilize the talent he has. 2011/2012 with his lead backs being less than stellar receiving options(Benson/BJGE) he did not throw much to his RBs but did lean on the lead RB heavily in the ground game(67% and 77% of all RB carries respectively). However in 2013 when he had a more explosive 2nd RB with good hands he split the carries more and used Gio in a receiving role. It's pretty obvious IMO that Alf is easily the most talented RB on the Redskins offense and will be featured in the ground game. His ability to produce FF points for his owners should not be in doubt. Rock solid RB2 in any format although it may be low end in a PPR unless Gruden decides to show off the skills Morris demonstrated during the Pro Bowl.
  19. RBs with 20+ TDs and 2800+ rushing yards in their first 2 seasons: Earl Campbell Eric Dickerson Edgerrin James LaDainian Tomlinson Clinton Portis Adrian Peterson Chris Johnson Alfred Morris
  20. That makes sense and I do think you contribute a lot to the SP. My issue is Silva.
  21. Love what you do here Faust, however these are just opinions from a raving moron on twitter.