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  1. Overrated. No possums there either. Overrated?I'll take Mediterranean beaches over Wal Mart Headquarters any day of the week. I can always import some possums. Yeah, but Arkansas is loaded with above ground pools. Import a sandbox and you got yourself a beach.
  2. You can be critical and unsurprised at the same time. The two reactions don't have anything to do with each other. Sure. But what about my post sounded critical? It was easily the most predictable poll I've seen in a while. That is critical? J Often people express disapproval with others by characterizing them as "predictable." It's a typical reaction to, say, corruption in politics.Maybe that wasn't your intent. But that's the way I read it. What shuke said below. And to add I have a different opinion of predictable than you think people often do. As one who makes my living predicting things, I love predictable. Absolutely love it. It's knowing what people like and want and dislike and don't want and it's imperative to keeping this thing afloat. J Oh come on Joe, this is ridiculous. You weren't actually predicting anything. You were stating that the results were predictable. People say that when they mean "predictably bad." It isn't a value-neutral expression. I don't understand. Are you saying he's being critical of both those who vote for Arkansas and those who vote for France?
  3. Arkansas is in the US. France is in Europe.US > Eurpoe
  4. Isn't there a verse about Christ not be needed if we could judge someone's salvation? I believe Paul said something along those lines.
  5. I guess the disagreement we are having centers around the fact that 5th best isn't good enough for the HOF.A) I'm not really in the Ward-for-HOF camp. I just found his numbers to be a bit surprising. Like I said, everytime someone made a claim about Ward's numbers not being very impressive, the data didn't always back it up.B) Ward supporters will cite his good, but not great, stats and then add the "intagibles" and his postseason performance to make their case. I just think it is a more interesting case than most people give it credit for. Here's how I'd do the groupings, or eras, of the current HOF WRs:Fears 48-56 Hirsch 46-56 Lavelli 46-56 Pihos 47-55 Berry 55-67 Maynard 58-73 McDonald 57-68 Mitchell 58-68 Alworth 62-72 Biletnikoff 65-78 Taylor 64-77 Warfield 64-77 Joiner 69-86 Swann 74-82 Stallworth 74-87 Largent 76-89 Lofton 78-93
  6. I don't think this point has been mentioned yet.
  7. Dolfan sent me his picks for 10.17 and 10.21. I have a meeting at 2 EST, which will last anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour.
  8. Depends on your definition of few. If few = 3 or less, that hurts Ward because it doesn't include his best season, plus others like Steve Smith and Chad Johnson get strong consideration. I think it is a stretch to say he is in the top 5 over the past 3 years or less. Just going off ff position rankings, here are the average rankings per year the last three years.Chad Johnson: 5.3 Marvin Harrison: 6.0 Randy Moss: 11.7 Hines Ward: 14.7 Santana Moss: 14.7 Chris Chambers: 14.7 Terrell Owens: 16.0 (with suspension) Derrick Mason: 16.0 Reggie Wayne: 16.3 Rod Smith: 18.7 Anquan Boldin: 24.0 (with an injury) Steve Smith: 52.7 (19.3 if you take out his injury year and add 2002) Am I missing someone obvious? Torry Holt is pretty obvious.EDIT: Holt leads your list at 5.0. Anyways, statements keep being made that Ward, while being a good blocker, leader, teammate, and clutch performer, does not have the receiving numbers to match his peers. And, time and time again, it is shown that he does have good numbers compared to his peers. Yudkin showed how Ward compared over the last five years in receptions, yards, TDs, and fantasy points, and it was very good. Ward shows up in the top five in three of those four categories (8th in the fourth category). Both Moss and TO each show up in the top five in three of the four categories. Only Harrison and Holt show up in the top 5 of all four categories. I've shown that not even the great Steve Smith has a better receiving resume to date and that Ward has a high average WR ranking the last few years. We keep slicing the data in different ways and keep finding Ward hovering around #5 in receiving stats. A lot of things can happen from here on out, but I see no evidence that Ward matches up poorly in receiving stats with his peers.
  9. And those are just based on fantasy receiving stats. When you add in things like blocking, leadership, and clutch performances, which are what people think puts Ward over other receivers, I don't see why it's crazy to say he's top five the last three years.
  10. Depends on your definition of few. If few = 3 or less, that hurts Ward because it doesn't include his best season, plus others like Steve Smith and Chad Johnson get strong consideration. I think it is a stretch to say he is in the top 5 over the past 3 years or less. Just going off ff position rankings, here are the average rankings per year the last three years.Chad Johnson: 5.3 Marvin Harrison: 6.0 Randy Moss: 11.7 Hines Ward: 14.7 Santana Moss: 14.7 Chris Chambers: 14.7 Terrell Owens: 16.0 (with suspension) Derrick Mason: 16.0 Reggie Wayne: 16.3 Rod Smith: 18.7 Anquan Boldin: 24.0 (with an injury) Steve Smith: 52.7 (19.3 if you take out his injury year and add 2002) Am I missing someone obvious?
  11. Better QB play doesn't necessarily equal higher receiving numbers. The last two years, Pitt has been 32nd in pass attempts. In 2002 and 2003, Ward's two best years, they were 16th and 10th in pass attempts.
  12. If we're still doing some kind of comparison for HOF purposes, the word "today" is never relevant. Teams would take Steve Smith over Jerry Rice today. So what? Smith is currently trending up while Rice is trending down. So what?You seemed to be listing top notch receivers who had better receiving credentials than Ward. In Smith's case, that's just not true. It may one day be true, but it isn't right now.
  13. Hold on. Steve Smith is not an example of someone having an edge in receiving. Smith has had two good years to talk about. Here they are: Rec Yards Y/R TD Pos. Rank 88 1110 12.6 7 15103 1583 15.2 12 1Here are Ward's top two seasons: Rec Yards Y/R TD Pos. Rank112 1329 12.9 12 3 95 1163 12.2 10 6
  14. Just speaking in FF terms, Campbell has position ranks of 2, 1, 2 his first three years and TD was 2, 2, 1 for a three-year stretch. But, Campbell also had an 8, 12, and 25 in his peak while TD only had a 12.I agree, though, that Campbell excels no matter where he is. And, TD will always have the "system" tag because of the success after he left.
  15. Actually, Campbell does have a longer career and peak. Not a lot longer, but it is longer.Campbell: +--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rushing | Receiving |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1978 hou | 15 | 302 1450 4.8 13 | 12 48 4.0 0 || 1979 hou | 16 | 368 1697 4.6 19 | 16 94 5.9 0 || 1980 hou | 15 | 373 1934 5.2 13 | 11 47 4.3 0 || 1981 hou | 16 | 361 1376 3.8 10 | 36 156 4.3 0 || 1982 hou | 9 | 157 538 3.4 2 | 18 130 7.2 0 || 1983 hou | 14 | 322 1301 4.0 12 | 19 216 11.4 0 || 1984 nor | 8 | 50 190 3.8 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 || 1984 hou | 6 | 96 278 2.9 4 | 3 27 9.0 0 || 1985 nor | 16 | 158 643 4.1 1 | 6 88 14.7 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 115 | 2187 9407 4.3 74 | 121 806 6.7 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+Davis: +--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rushing | Receiving |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1995 den | 14 | 237 1117 4.7 7 | 49 367 7.5 1 || 1996 den | 16 | 345 1538 4.5 13 | 36 310 8.6 2 || 1997 den | 15 | 369 1750 4.7 15 | 42 287 6.8 0 || 1998 den | 16 | 392 2008 5.1 21 | 25 217 8.7 2 || 1999 den | 4 | 67 211 3.1 2 | 3 26 8.7 0 || 2000 den | 5 | 78 282 3.6 2 | 2 4 2.0 0 || 2001 den | 11 | 167 701 4.2 0 | 12 69 5.8 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 81 | 1655 7607 4.6 60 | 169 1280 7.6 5 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+Campbell's peak was six years, with a down year in '82, while Davis' was four years, without an overly impressive first year ('95) in that peak.Look how similar their last three years were. Pretty weird.
  16. I would just like to say the following are completely obvious: Ben Roethlisberger is the greatest QB of all time. Jerome Bettis is the greatest RB of all time. Hines Ward is the greatest WR of all time. Troy Polomalu is the greatest S of all time. Bill Cower is the greatest coahc of all time. The Pittsburg Steelers are the greatest franchise of all time. That is, until next season and somebody else wins the SB. Then they'll be the greatest of all time.
  17. Why would the first thing Locke says to Jack, "I wouldn't touch that if I were you," referring to the computer? Kind of a weird thing to say with a guy holding you hostage.
  18. They better not somehow explain it away and have him keep his toe. I'm sure it's all part of his plan. He has to climb some fence to escape, but the holes are too small for his feet... From what I saw, mainly with the prison fight, he doesn't seem like too much of a tough guy. I don't think he's the type to build that into his plan.
  19. They better not somehow explain it away and have him keep his toe.
  20. I saw the second hour. It was pretty good. I'll watch next week.It appears, though, that the show will focus more on who is behind the murder rather than breaking out of jail. From previews, it doesn't look like it will take them all that long to get out.
  21. After watching The Terminal last night, I'm picturing your janitor being the janitor in that movie.
  22. What, you don't think he'll come back after his one week suspension?
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