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  1. Go Breckenridge, Vail or Copper. All fit what you are looking to accomplish.
  2. Really? For what? Aiding enemies of the state
  3. The point of that post was not to argue removing 1st Amendment rights for Muslims. It was to show reason why I do not think Islam is really just a religion, and it's not. It goes way beyond religion. It's a guide for world domination.
  4. Trying in vain to re-direct this trainwreck back to the original video (that Tim still hasn't watched I'm assuming?). HOW can any "liberal" support any "religion" that does this? How? And if you're not "condeming" it you are supporting it. Because most of you #### all over Christianity for something as innocuous as anti-abortion rhetoric. Disclaimer: I am not a Christian and think religion is a bunch of crap. Its worth pointing out that liberals dont like conservative Christians efforts to save life (abortion) while seeming not too upset by Islams approach towards women as property, death to homosexuals and death to those that leave Islam. Thank you. That is my point. Liberals can ##### about women's rights and abortions and gay rights and "Christian extremists" yet defend a religion who's laws say they must kill homosexuals, kill non-believers, kill women who marry outside of their family's plan. A lifestyle and religion that gives women no rights whatsoever. How do you make sense of this? They can't Tommy boy. The crickets are chirping. No more straw men to march out. There's really nothing left.
  5. Trying in vain to re-direct this trainwreck back to the original video (that Tim still hasn't watched I'm assuming?). HOW can any "liberal" support any "religion" that does this? How? And if you're not "condeming" it you are supporting it. Because most of you #### all over Christianity for something as innocuous as anti-abortion rhetoric. Disclaimer: I am not a Christian and think religion is a bunch of crap. Thank you. That is my point. Liberals can ##### about women's rights and abortions and gay rights and "Christian extremists" yet defend a religion who's laws say they must kill homosexuals, kill non-believers, kill women who marry outside of their family's plan. A lifestyle and religion that gives women no rights whatsoever. How do you make sense of this?
  6. As far as sharia goes, I don't believe women should be treated like cattle or property. I don't think women should be told who they have to marry. I don't believe women should have no say at all about what happens in their own lives. I don't believe a woman's purpose is to serve a man. I don't believe women should be covered head to toe. I don't believe in killing gays. I don't believe people should be killed for their beliefs as long as they are minding their own business. People should not be disfigured and dismembered and beaten for their beliefs or minor crimes or lack of beliefs. I don't really believe in the death penalty as a form of law except under the most extreme cases. No one should ever be stoned to death unless they stoned someone. Is there anything about sharia that is good?
  7. Strawman, Tim. I am talking about the barbaric actions that take place everyday in regular Muslim countries. The ones I listed above. The ones that live under sharia law. I didn't say "No one is denouncing the actions of ISIS". No one destroyed anything. What you wrote, exactly is: Will they publicly denounce the actions of extremists? Not generally. I think they are scared to. You're wrong about this, Hilts showed you that you are wrong, and you should probably admit it and move on. However I don't want to overstate the case. I have written for years that there IS a huge problem with Islam and extremism, and it doesn't compare to any other religion. And however much their "establishment" criticizes it, that doesn't seem to stop the extremism. But IMO not all of the extremism is based in the Islamic religion. The Palestinians tend to support terrorism, for example, not because they are Islamic but because they don't see any other means of achieving their goals. If you doubt this, just look at the Irish Republican Army. They weren't Islamic. These are very complex issues. I object to simplistic statements about them, whichever side they're from. Tim when I say extremists I guess you and Hilts can just assume that I just mean ISIS or Al Qaeda or Boko Haram. Once again for the pig headed, his link was a bunch of groups denouncing the actions of ISIS. I never mentioned ISIS. That is a straw man response. I see sharia law as extreme and those who choose to live under it and enforce it as extreme. I never said a damn word about terrorist groups. That was his own assumption. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too. How so, Tim? Up until Hilts posted the criticism of ISIS, you made no differentiation between Islamic terrorists and Islamic extremists who govern sovereign states. In fact, anyone who reads your posts in this thread (and especially the op-ed piece you pasted) would think that Islamic terrorism was the main focus of your remarks. Are you kidding me? Where have I mentioned a word about Islamic terrorists? Except to say that is NOT whom I am referring to.
  8. No ####. I have no idea where he or Hilts are coming from. With Tim I think he just likes to argue. I don't think he even knows where he stands on any of this. He's caught up in semantics and attempting lame misdirections and straw men. Total #### tactics as far as discussion and debating goes. This Hilts guy I don't know from Adam and have no clue where he is coming from except for he keeps posting his link about Muslim groups denouncing ISIS which is supposed to somehow discredit everything I have said.
  9. Strawman, Tim. I am talking about the barbaric actions that take place everyday in regular Muslim countries. The ones I listed above. The ones that live under sharia law. I didn't say "No one is denouncing the actions of ISIS". No one destroyed anything. What you wrote, exactly is: Will they publicly denounce the actions of extremists? Not generally. I think they are scared to. You're wrong about this, Hilts showed you that you are wrong, and you should probably admit it and move on. However I don't want to overstate the case. I have written for years that there IS a huge problem with Islam and extremism, and it doesn't compare to any other religion. And however much their "establishment" criticizes it, that doesn't seem to stop the extremism. But IMO not all of the extremism is based in the Islamic religion. The Palestinians tend to support terrorism, for example, not because they are Islamic but because they don't see any other means of achieving their goals. If you doubt this, just look at the Irish Republican Army. They weren't Islamic. These are very complex issues. I object to simplistic statements about them, whichever side they're from. Tim when I say extremists I guess you and Hilts can just assume that I just mean ISIS or Al Qaeda or Boko Haram. Once again for the pig headed, his link was a bunch of groups denouncing the actions of ISIS. I never mentioned ISIS. That is a straw man response. I see sharia law as extreme and those who choose to live under it and enforce it as extreme. I never said a damn word about terrorist groups. That was his own assumption. What makes sharia law extreme to you? Is this a serious question? You've read my posts. Are you trying to trip me up? What ISN'T extreme about Sharia Law? Lets ask that question.
  10. Look at those polls. Some of that polling was done in Europe. I never said "All Muslims" about anything as you just quoted me above. For the most part Muslims have no issue with sharia law. Now I don't give a #### what anyone does or believes in. UNTIL the people with these extremist beliefs begin to try and make other people have the same beliefs. I also do not like seeing people being disfigured, dismembered and beheaded for their beliefs and minor crimes. It's a barbaric way of life and is practiced by nearly a billion people. You should re-read your post. Okay, I just did. What is your point? That you linked a bunch of groups denouncing ISIS when I was talking legit real followers of Islam and never mentioned ISIS or terror groups?
  11. No it's not meaningless. Countries live under it. What countries live under or enforce a Christian law? What the hell are you even trying to say?
  12. Look at those polls. Some of that polling was done in Europe. I never said "All Muslims" about anything as you just quoted me above. For the most part Muslims have no issue with sharia law. Now I don't give a #### what anyone does or believes in. UNTIL the people with these extremist beliefs begin to try and make other people have the same beliefs. I also do not like seeing people being disfigured, dismembered and beheaded for their beliefs and minor crimes. It's a barbaric way of life and is practiced by nearly a billion people. I never said "All Muslims"... It's a barbaric way of life and is practiced by nearly a billion people... So is it all Muslims or isn't it? Wow, you like to really play with words don't you. You also like to take things out of context. If you take the countries who use some form of sharia law, you're looking at close to a billion people. There are other Muslims who live outside of the Middle East, it's neighbors and Indonesia. So no, not "all muslims". What is your stance Tim and why are you arguing with me? What is your point? Tell me, please. Spit it out.
  13. Strawman, Tim. I am talking about the barbaric actions that take place everyday in regular Muslim countries. The ones I listed above. The ones that live under sharia law. I didn't say "No one is denouncing the actions of ISIS". No one destroyed anything. What you wrote, exactly is: Will they publicly denounce the actions of extremists? Not generally. I think they are scared to. You're wrong about this, Hilts showed you that you are wrong, and you should probably admit it and move on. However I don't want to overstate the case. I have written for years that there IS a huge problem with Islam and extremism, and it doesn't compare to any other religion. And however much their "establishment" criticizes it, that doesn't seem to stop the extremism. But IMO not all of the extremism is based in the Islamic religion. The Palestinians tend to support terrorism, for example, not because they are Islamic but because they don't see any other means of achieving their goals. If you doubt this, just look at the Irish Republican Army. They weren't Islamic. These are very complex issues. I object to simplistic statements about them, whichever side they're from. Tim when I say extremists I guess you and Hilts can just assume that I just mean ISIS or Al Qaeda or Boko Haram. Once again for the pig headed, his link was a bunch of groups denouncing the actions of ISIS. I never mentioned ISIS. That is a straw man response. I see sharia law as extreme and those who choose to live under it and enforce it as extreme. I never said a damn word about terrorist groups. That was his own assumption. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too. How so, Tim?