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  1. The talk of the automated strike zone definitely continues and actually increases every season it becomes more feasible. Color me in the camp of doing what it takes to get the calls right. I dont enjoy the human element of reffing the game when it comes to black and white calls. Certain rulings lend themselves to subjectivity and human refs will always be necessary. Certain calls are yes/no and I hate it when they are missed and not corrected. Especially when those calls happen in game/season changing moments. Whatever it takes to get it right is what I am in favor of.
  2. Of course it does. The question is how does the league fix it so there isn't a next time.
  3. The Oak loss was maybe Tomlins single worst performance as a HC. That Dobbs INT was as bad a play call as it gets. My only further input was post game, Ben himself seemed to indicate he was ready to go. There was plenty of bad there on every level of the team to go around.
  4. I do. I also know I'm coming off as a Tomlin hater far more than I actually am in here. I just look at the sloppy, undisciplined effort they put out in CLE, coupled with giving up the lead late as the epitome of Tomlin road issues. Exactly how badly did the team have to perform to have that game end in a tie and how is a chunk of that not on the HC who's teams have done this many times before on the road? The specific game can be written off as players, but the performance pattern can't IMO.
  5. Is 6 TOs and 12 penalties at CLE really just on the players tho? Doesnt that speak to preparedness to a degree. Arent the DEN TOs, that happened at critical points, when simply not turning the ball over gets you points not indicative of lack of awareness? Was Ben really too hurt to play in OAK? Who keeps trotting out a Boswell that was obviously struggling from the get go to miss those critical later season kicks? Theres a chicken and egg here for sure when it comes to coach vs player responsibility. Its not the specific issues I hold Tomlin to blame for, its the season after season repetitive issues that I have begun pinning on him.
  6. I agree with this, but again that lends scrutiny to Tomlins role in the personnel process. There no two ways around the impact losing Shazier has had. Its been huge and obviously cant be laid at Tomlins feet. However, he's been pretty sketchy, especially for an ex DC that wants to rely on his D to win the "attrition" football style games his philosophy demands it to, at keeping this unit afloat. Maybe its simply organizational, but they just havent been able to hit with any of their picks in the secondary for a while. Id also suggest Tomlins road woes generally were simply highlighted this season. Road games are tough, but SB teams beat the teams they are supposed to even when they travel. The week 1 CLE tie, and the DEN and OAK losses were bad losses and in the context of both Tomlins past season road performance and the specifics of how they lost those games, they were symbolic of Tomlins repeated flaws. Play down on the road, get your team a second half lead and then go conservative and force your D to win a close game, and make bad situational mistakes that often times appear as not being prepared. Its been few and far beteeen that Ive watched a game and thought Tomlins Xs and Os involvement was responsible for a W, while it has seemed that his Xs and Os is directly involved in many of the bad losses they endure. There may be a lot of correlation vs causation with my sentiments. I get that. I see Tomlin lose the same type of games in the same type of ways over and over and I hang a chunk of the blame on him. I dont see anything changing there to think it wont be repeat performances in upcoming seasons either.
  7. Sadly, already proven correct. Apologies for even bothering.
  8. Your dont feed the troll post seemed applicable. Plus the damn editor wouldnt delete it once I accidentally included it. So I tried to make it work. Lol.
  9. At the risk of doing the first quoted, everyone can read what you write. You arent having independent conversations. We all see you like Tomlin. Cool. No need to keep repeating it over and over. That said, its reasonably obvious that as an apparent Lions/Niners fan you dont follow the Steelers closely. They, the Steelers, were 7-2-1 and in the drivers seat for a 1-2 seed at that point. Multiple brutal losses with the same tired tropes that are hallmarks of Tomlin teams left them watching rather than playing. It was indeed an epic collapse for a team with this much talent. As much as you want to say his record points to a good coach, there are legitimate reasons fans that follow the team closely arent convinced hes the right guy. He will be their coach for at least another season, and likely a couple, so I really hope you are more correct than not, but the guy's record belies fundamental issues that many believe are serious enough that a SB ring isnt happening with him in charge. I just dont wanna see you post, but hes a winner, in response to discussion of those issues every single time.
  10. Absolutely concur. This was not a "mistake". This does not "happen all the time". This does not "even out over time". I dont believe it was intentional, but the league can not allow obvious game and season altering misses like this. Regular season or playoffs. This one was as bad as it gets.
  11. I think youve made your opinion plenty clear man. Repeating the same thing ad nauseum doesn't make it any more correct.
  12. Thats fair. I get it. Hes been a good coach. I certainly cant say you are wrong here. Be interesting to watch how the Brown situation is handled. I wont belabor my take on Tomlins role there. I just fall in the camp that the rising tide of talent has floated Tomlins boat moreso than the other way around. In some ways I think Tomlin has been a direct impediment to the talents success as Ive laid out. . Just what I see, take it for what its worth.
  13. I think both Bell and AB are symptomatic of Tomlins enabling leadership stlye. They should have simply moved on from Bell not allowing the distraction and Brown never should have been catered to both on and off the field for them to be wherever they are at now. Happy campers would have been dynamic weapons this year, not an argument. Brown was still pretty damn good. The various unhappy tho has Tomlins fingerprints on it. To other points, again my response is because winning isnt the goal, winning the SB is and I dont think Tomlins now chronic flaws make that likely. And, yes, he would be in high demand if he left. Im not really calling for the guy to be fired, but if he was I would understand why and be more optimistic than not for whatever came next.
  14. Bell and AB are just the headlines today. Letting Ben skip time in OTAs, giving him vet days off, alienating Harrison, Santonio Holmes...the underlying lack of cohesion in the locker room has been an issue since the Hines Ward days. The "better" stuff gets pretty hypothetical but if you asked me how many coaches over the last 12 years could have replicated what Tomlin has done or bettered it with this same group of talent...there are enough names there that I know you would disagree. Relative to the talent hes been given I think Tomlin has underachieved. That doesn't mean hes not a good coach, it does mean I dont think its likely he is the guy to get this team back to the SB. I agree hiring new blood is a risk but at this point with Tomlin its the devil ya know vs the devil ya dont. If I believe hes not likely to get back to the SB not sure the risk isnt worth the possible reward.