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  1. I don't think anyone thinks Cobb is a bad player. That's not the point. The point is that his trade value is coming pretty close to its ceiling. A lot of people see him as a top 8-12 dynasty WR. How much higher can he get? Do you think he really has top 5 dynasty WR potential? I am skeptical of that. On talent alone I don't rate him as high guys like Harvin, Thomas, and Green. The main thing I like about him is his combination of talent and situation. Good player in a great system. I'll take that in a WR2 for my FF team, but in a WR1 I want someone with Pro Bowl ability and I don't think Cobb is quite on that level.It took Harvin a while to reach his potential as well. He was the proverbial tease. He was also difficult to pry away from owners before he ascended to his current status. Like Shorts, Harvin's value could wain with the addition of playmakers to the roster. Cobb's trade velue may be close to it's ceiling in a lot of Leagues. I wouldn't doubt that. Some times people love a player. Nothing wrong with that. Buyer beware, eh?
  2. Well, I don't know how Shorts got brought into this. But if you think Cobb is "overrated," then don't trade for him.Short is in this conversation because he is in a similar situation; great stretch of production with little to no established history. They should be ranked closely but Cobb's value is double Shorts', and Shorts wasn't lucky enough to play for the Packers. Blackmon is another; his last 10 games pro-rated is 80/1200/8...as a rookie...with Chad Henne. Should be in the same tier as Cobb, right? One would think. But he is worth half as much as Cobb, based on most rankings.I am bringing Blackmon and Shorts into the conversation to provide context.Shorts proved to be the only viable option in a very poor offense. Blackmon vastly underperformed based on his draft position (I too hope he improves with after his first year of NFL experience behind him, as Shorts did). There was no running game (not that GB did either but the passing game did help their production somewhat). Neither team got much out of the TE position.I am by no means an expert on either team but McCarthy was moving Cobb all over the place. He seemed to be using him as an experimental object. He had a nearly 77% catch rate. Maybe once they settle on how to use him his overall production will improve. It seems to me with players going in and out of the lineup it would be more difficult for a player like Cobb who is used as a multifunction player would be more inconsistent than one like Jones who is in a more defined role.Kudos to Shorts for stepping up in his second year. No denying his value to Jacksonville nor his on field production. I personally wouldn't sell short on Cobb.
  3. I don't think I ever loved the deal. It was a necessary evil more than anything. And it broke bad for me in two regards. If Benson stays healthy, he starts every game for me. If Jennings stays healthy, Cobb has a quiet season.So it goes. I traded Gabbert for Moreno in one league before McGahee got hurt. Doesn't make me a psychic. Just means I got lucky. Luck is a big factor in FF. It can make a bad decision look good or vice versa.I have to say it is a welcome sight to see "prominent" posters discuss their "bad" trades as well as their "good" ones. If one wants to be thought of only as a rock star they wouldn't do it. It would make for a boring thread as well.Yep, Luck has a lot to do with FF success. So does risk.
  4. Would love to use Gronk's injury as a way to merely have his owners to consider trading him, let alone "buying him low".Two freak injuries. Pollard rolls his body weight on to his ankle and an arm injury blocking on ST's. These are not chronic joint, muscular or head issues.He does play with abandon; isn't that what we want in our players?
  5. Vereen was likely taken in the 1.09 range when he came out of Cal. I love Woodhead as much as any Patriots' fan and hope the team resigns him. The Patriots are a wildcard. Vereen has shown flashes losing his opportunities to Woodhead when he had the fumble, along with Ridley, in the 49ers game. Had Woodhead not been injured this past weekend who knows whne he would have seen the field. If he gets significant touches against a hard hitting Ravens team without putting the ball on the ground his role will continue to grow. His catch down the left sidelines against Rudd was a thing of beauty (as was the pass).Ridley, Vereen and Woodhead's roles will be further defined by their playoff performances. The Pats are very much a what have you done for me lately team.Who do you get at 1.04 this year? I wouldn't trade Vereen without knowing more about his role on the team; especially in PPR. Given his skill level and playing on a pass oriented team he has solid upside potential.
  6. The NYTimes should be ashamed of this hit piece. Seriously? This same guy would have killed Tebow as dishonest, disingenuous and selfish if he'd blown the guy off after a loss.This is the sort of thing that shows some people just want to dislike him. Sounds like the writer got rejected for an interview or told to wait and he wasn't down with that at all. Tebow has it right on this one. He can wait to hand out the Kleenex in the locker room. These are well paid, grown, healthy men who lost a football game. I am not at all down with the proselytizing Tebow does but the humanity he shows when he reaches out to these kids is exemplary. He is not the lone representative of the entertainment industry to do such things but he certainly is one of the more visible ones at this time. The writer ought to check his own pulse.
  7. i blame the defense more than anything else. Pats could have put up 70 if they wanted. It was pathetic in the 1st half. They made converted TE Hernandez look like Walter Payton. They were missing tackles, blowing coverages, not getting pressure, etc...Denver's offense is conservative and needs the D to play well if they are going to win games. That is how this team is built. Denver is not build to come back from large deficits.They are not built to come back from large deficits, fine, but they also couldn't score against one of the worst defenses in the League, or so we are told. The Patriots had some very bad defensive statistics and were particularly suceptible in their defensive back field. Yet the Broncos scored 10 points; seven on a short field, courtesy of a turnover on defense. So what happened to the offense the rest of the game? Couldn't they have put up another 10-14 points and made the game more respectable? The defense was rolled; the offense was rolled.Tebow waas a large part of the problem. Certainly not the sole problem; but he wasn't the answer either.
  8. The absurdity of the discussion has reached the level of no return. I'll take any of those guys for the Pats too. How good would Brady be if he had Marvin and Jerry in their prime? Heck, Brees might throw for 10,000 yards. Ok, I agree, a QBs ability to release the ball in a timely fashion has nothing to do with an offense's effectiveness. And Brady is as an effective runner as Tebow. Hell, how many 4th and 1's has he converted. Brady time baby. Did you see the fake he threw on Urlacher a few years ago? Brady could be a 1,000 yard rusher if he had Anthony Munoz, Larry Allen, John Hannah, Jimm Otto and Jackie Slater blocking for him. Heck, Benjamin Brady could rush for 1,000. How many steps is that for a two year old. Wew, I feel better now. Waxing poetic on absurdity is very healing. Enjoy the game on Saurday night. As a resident of Colorado it's fair to say that Tebow has raised the hopes of many, but not nearly all, of the Broncos faithful. He is as polarizing a figure locally as he is nationally. If I was a Broncos' fan I would be happy we were winning after the failures of the later Shanahan tenure and McDaniels' mind numbing melt down. I don't think the Charges' fans feel any better about losing with a really good QB. Nor have we Pats fans who have been one and done the last couple of years. If your team is getting it done, the rest is up for debate. Scoreboard baby.....
  9. this aired in april of 2010 - i think he's improved his mechanics since then."it will take tens of thousands of throws to change his muscle memory"....yes, his mechanics have improved since he came into the league and the dude is a hard worker but tens of thousands of throws; he hasn't changed that much.It is obvious by last week's game and his ability to make certain throws in college that Tebow can complete a pass. But like unpolished receivers who come into the league who aren't effective running the whole rout tree Tebow can't effectively throw the whole route tree. Perhaps he learns this. Perhaps the OC is able to compensate for this (as McCoy did last Sunday) and his efficiency and ability to be a consistently effective NFL QB is established. Tebow does not have a quick release. The piece is talking about averages. The defensive alignment matters but a quick throw by the QB sets up the receiver and makes the blocks more effective.
  10. tebow vs brady release time... so you're saying brady has a slow release as well? Do you know the difference between a down field pass and a screen pass? Brady does not wind up like that when he throws the quick screen/bubble pass; he has a much quicker release.
  11. With Tebow's elongated throwing motion and very slow release bubble screens and quick outs wouldn't be effective. Throws to the sidelines, particularly to his right, isn't one of his strengths. Pittsburgh did not defend well against Tebow's strength as a QB which is the down field, slower developing throw. Even the crossing routes he hit to Thomas in OT and the non-catch by Decker were one read plays that allowed (with good blocking bby the offensive line) Tebow to see the play develop and throw to his called play. The OC did a great job of calling the right play and Tebow made some really nice throws. With McGhee hobbled the Bronco's weren't going to beat the Steelers with Lance Ball and Tebow running into the line. The coaching staff very wisely allowed Tebow to pass early, it was their only real chance. The Wallace drop in the 2nd quarter and the Legursky bad snap were buzz kills for a Steelers offense that was struggling to do anything right in the first half. Denver's D played a physical/spirited game. Denver put it all together on Sunday and deserved to win the game. They run plenty of wide receiver bubble screens. They don't runs screens to the running back because those are built to counter an over-aggressive defense and defenses are the exact opposite against Tebow. The defensive line plays to contain him not to pressure him.I din't see them run any in the games I watched; Minny, Chicago, NE and Pittsburgh; none that were effective any way.His delivery is too slow.
  12. With Tebow's elongated throwing motion and very slow release bubble screens and quick outs wouldn't be effective. Throws to the sidelines, particularly to his right, isn't one of his strengths. Pittsburgh did not defend well against Tebow's strength as a QB which is the down field, slower developing throw. Even the crossing routes he hit to Thomas in OT and the non-catch by Decker were one read plays that allowed (with good blocking bby the offensive line) Tebow to see the play develop and throw to his called play. The OC did a great job of calling the right play and Tebow made some really nice throws. With McGhee hobbled the Bronco's weren't going to beat the Steelers with Lance Ball and Tebow running into the line. The coaching staff very wisely allowed Tebow to pass early, it was their only real chance. The Wallace drop in the 2nd quarter and the Legursky bad snap were buzz kills for a Steelers offense that was struggling to do anything right in the first half. Denver's D played a physical/spirited game. Denver put it all together on Sunday and deserved to win the game.
  13. Very I always thought it was odd how people kept saying "Team X would be the team that finally beat Tebow" and then after the Broncos won that team suddenly wasn't any good anyway.You both lost the gist of the original post but that isn't surprising as this thread has dragged on ad-nauseam. If you don't understand the difference in beating the Bears with Cutler and Forte I can't help you there.Had the Broncos beat the Chiefs in the lst game of the season they wouldn't have had to wait for the awful Raiders to lose to get into the playoffs. Oh, and they might have more readily accepted their hats and T-Shirts as winners of the division. I give them a lot of credit for that.For what it's worth I have posted kudos to Tebow for his play yesterday in other threads. The best game I have seen him play to date. Tebow was the same QB when he won seven of eight games followed by three straight losses. He made some nice plays yesterday; D Thomas didn't hurt his cause either, he was fantastic; neither did the defense; neither did the coaching staff. Actually, he had fewer isolated heroics in yesterday's game than in other previous games. But that is the nature of football isn't it? You often win as a team. Tebow is part of one. The lightning rod isn't going away any time soon.
  14. Good - because your argument is equally invalid. Collectively, the teams Tebow beat were vastly better than the teams Dalton beat.Chicago without Cutler and Forte, Minnesota without ADP: neither team beat a playoff team. The term vastly could be considered a bit misleading; just saying. Until yesterday, of course:) Personally, I think the Texans have a good chance to go all the way. The Bears beat the Falcons and the Lions - both rather handily (30-12 over the Falcons in week 1 and 37-13 over the Lions in week 10). But hey, don't let facts slow your roll Perhaps you misunderstood what I wrote. Which playoff team was it that the Broncos (with Tebow) or the Bengals beat in the regular season? If you look, the Bears (who didn't make the playoffs) beat Atlanta and the Lions with Cutler and Forte. But don't let those facts slap you in the face either.