David Yudkin

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  8. As I remember it, Gronk was coming off of season ending back surgery. Whether that would be classified as upper back surgery or lower neck surgery is out of my pay grade.
  9. After watching Lebowski again, I forgot how similar the story was to Fargo. In both films, people with financial problems set up some sort of kidnapping and amateur criminals all around botch things up. The characters may be completely different, but the premise in each film is similar. Yet I loved Fargo and was ambivalent about Lebowski.
  10. With this thread getting resurrected and more praise and adulation, I decided to watch Lebowski again since it had been a few years since my last viewing. Sadly, I still don't get it. Maybe it's too hip for me, I don't know. The bowling alley scenes are amusing and the OVER THE LINE bit is classic (especially to those that have bowled in leagues before). But taken as a whole, I still don't see how some folks gush over this movie as one of the all time greatest comedies ever made.
  11. I thought about this ... then I think back to the month before his breakout season where the beat writers all thought he was a "man among boys" in training camp. That's against other NFL starting players. Considering his age, scheme, QB... he's one of the 4-5 players currently at max value that I will continue to buy/hold because they are so much better than other people at their position that it tilts the weekly match-ups heavily in your favor.At this point I think I'd rather have Jimmy Graham. Similar points but without all the drama. And a younger QB.Brees is 34. Brady is 35. Not exactly a huge difference there.Over the past two seasons, Gronk has averaged 14.29 fantasy ppg vs. 11.26 for Graham in 0 ppr leagues. That's a difference of 3.03 pts/gm, which is quite a bit. Even in PPR leagues, Gronk averaged 19.66 points per game vs. 17.2 for Graham. If that is "similar," then so be it.
  12. I'm not a doctor, but Jene Bramel is, so I defer to his expertise on this one:http://bramelsecondopinion.com/2013/01/15/how-likely-was-rob-gronkowskis-second-arm-fracture/ I think your accurate crystal ball comment really sums it up for me. Frankly, would I be shocked if Gronk got a DUI? Not really. If you told me that an NFL player would go missing for two weeks and resurface in a Mexican prison, would Gronk be one of the first names I guessed? He sure would. But these are astronomically small risks, IMO. We might as well start downgrading players because they play the lottery, and if they win, they're likely to retire. My crystal ball is nowhere near accurate enough for me to believe that incorporating wild suppositions about a stranger's character would improve the quality of my predictions. Especially since a fondness for partying is rather common among his age group, and almost always declines naturally with time. Punishing him in rankings for being immature seems bass-ackwards- since when is youth a negative in dynasty rankings?As I mentioned, it seems the biggest strike against Gronk is the broken arm. My thoughts on that are largely shaped on what Bramel says- the recovery period seems reasonable, the second break was likely a perfect storm, an offseason to heal should alleviate any remaining issues.LOL at some of the melodrama. I still said Gronk would be my #1 TE, but I would take him a round later than everyone else because of the injury risk. I did not discount him at all for anything in the OTHER category . . . but as I said, if there were guys that even had an OTHER category, he would be one.So while you worry about his arm injury, I worry about his arm (which depending upon your perspective could count as one or two injuries but required 3 surgeries) . . . and his ankle (which he hurt before the SB last year and required surgery and he also injured another time in training camp) . . . and his hip (which had him listed as questionable for multiple weeks even before the broken arm) . . . and his back (that caused him to miss an entire season in college from back surgery).Yes, he's still young. But that's at least 5 surgeries in 4 seasons . . . and as I mentioned earlier in the thread could have caused him to miss a lot more regular season time if the injuries happened at different points of the season.While we don't know if he will ever get hurt again, I think it's safe to say that as he gets older injuries will at some point get harder to regenerate from. I agree that he could play 10 more years and never get hurt, but he could also be done in 5 years due to the beating he gets as a TE. We can't predict either, but the point of the thread was whether people should be CONCERNED. Yes, I am concerned. He's still in most people's eyes the top fantasy TE and I would concur, but I would worry if he would miss time (completely leaving his off field stuff out of it altogether). Different strokes for different folks.
  13. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but we don't know what Gronk's designations would have been had he been hurt earlier on in the season. And IMO the back injuries in college are not so insignificant that they should be totally ignored.I agree that the broken arm was a flukish injury (and why he was even on the field then still mystifies me). Clearly when he's 100% he is gold, pure gold. But that's still 3 pretty major injuries over roughly a 5 year span. Those could happen at any point to anyone, so I would tend to agree that injuries are mostly bad luck. I wouldn't discount Gronk very much, but I would still tend to say he should be discounted slightly with the injury concerns.
  14. I'm guessing I am not a troll, and I would be concerned about Gronk BECAUSE he is one of the best TE to ever play in the NFL. Want proof? Look at what NE has done.In 2011, he really had no business playing in the Super Bowl with a severe ankle injury, yet the Pats ran him out there in the hopes that he could do something. This year, he broke his arm . . . and NE rushed him back and he re-broke it. Without the second break (which sounds like it partly stemmed from the plate they inserted), he most likely would not have had infection issues either.On the surface, it appears like Gronkowski hasn't missed much time, but if he suffered the same injuries early in the season he could have missed a ton of time. If he had an injured back, ankle, or broken arm at the start of the year, he could have missed half the regular season or more.But since he is so valuable to the Patriots, they will do everything they can to get him in the lineup, which is where I get concerned. We've already seen what can happen when you try to do too much too soon. And if Gronk is beat up and not 100%, should he still be considered the #1 TE if he was playing at 75-80%?And we haven't even discussed his off the field lifestyle, which could also get him a freak injury or a suspension if he got caught doing something really out there or drug related.So yes, people should be concerned, even if he "only" missed 5 games in 3 seasons.Yes, New England rushed him back from the ankle injury... but I'm willing to say that Super Bowls are special cases, and it's exceedingly unlikely for Gronk to ever be in that position going forward. Besides, it's not as if we don't have any other examples of players rushing back for Super Bowls- did you count it as a strike against Terrell Owens, too? I'm not so sure New England rushed him back from the broken arm- there was speculation that he'd be playing for weeks before he actually was, which indicates he could possibly have been ready earlier. My impression from Dr. Bramel was less that the second break was a "he didn't have time to recover" thing and more that it was a "these things are fluky but sometimes happen" sort of thing. The fact that the break was in a different location seems to confirm that the original break had healed and was once again structurally sound. The infection is totally meaningless, unless you think Gronkowski has a predisposition to surgical infections (which is a separate argument than a predisposition towards surgery- even if we believe the broken bone is meaningful, I don't think the infection adds any additional information). I agree with you that time missed is a potentially misleading indicator (although in this case, I don't think it's off by much- if the injuries had occurred at different points of the season, he might have missed as few as 3 games or as many as 7, so 5 seems reasonable). I think number of injuries per game played would probably be a better guide, and by that metric, Gronk is doing really well- 48 career games played, and only 3 injuries which landed him on the injury report. Since one of those injuries, the broken bone, is about as non-predictive as injuries get, I'd say he's in fine shape. As for off-the-field concerns... I think those are way off base. We've never had a single whiff of drug use out of Gronk- no failed drug tests at any level. In fact, I did a quick google search and the only connection I could find between Gronk and drugs was all the time and money he donated to the DEA. Sure, he dances shirtless in establishments that permit shirtless dancing, and speaks grammatically incorrect Spanish, and wears fashion straight from the '80s, but I don't know why any of these things should lead me to conclude he's at a higher risk for suspension. You want to start worrying about TEs, let's start with ones who have actually failed a drug test before. Like the guy lining up across from Gronk who is currently the consensus #3 dynasty TE. As for whether he should still be the #1 TE at 75-80%... yes. Unequivocally yes. See weeks 4-11. If he's playing, he's #1.The question, I believe, was should we be CONCERNED. I don't specifically think he is injury prone, but I do think he carries additional injury risk for some of the reasons I already gave. I don't know if that would knock him down in the rankings (I would still have him as the #1 fantasy TE), but I would take pause on drafting him where his ADP would be in a redraft league.I actually saw Gronk the other day at a signing event (and appropriately Hernandez was scheduled to attend and couldn't make it . . . proving the Pats can't field these 2 guys at the same time even in the offseason). I still think the guy lives like a rock star and if there is a category for "guys that could really do something stupid off the field," I would add him to that list. Maybe suggesting he would fail a drug test might be too simplistic (and off base), but he strikes me as someone that could do something really "out there." While he may not be at true risk of suspension, he might be at risk of infuriating his coach, owner, and organization . . . which could shorten his stay in NE if it's a really bad transgression. I know, that's a bunch of mumbo jumbo and would require a very accurate crystal ball (which none of us have).His rock star status and lifestyle likely translates on to the field of play, where he thinks he is superhuman and plays like it. But that could be great for his fantasy scoring, I wonder some if that will cause him to miss more time than others (or have a shorter career).I also think that in general the Pats do some pretty dumb things with regard to their personnel. Gronk on the XP kicking team? Welker fielding punts? Welker and the starters playing in Week 17 in a game that mostly didn't matter? Brady still in the game up by 35 points in the 4th quarter? Not playing younger players and starts in general so when they have to play they are raw and inexperienced. But I haven't had the best record in the league over the past 10+ years and have not coached even one SB winner, so I will admit I am not an NFL coach.As far as the broken arm and the playoffs, it sounds like he was using it and practicing with it way earlier than he was projected to be able to play. I defer to the doctors of the world to determine if that was good, bad, or indifferent. I had a similar injury before (probably worse than Gronk's), and I missed way more time and my coaches would not let me anywhere near the field. But I didn't exactly get the same paycheck as Gronk (and we weren't playing for a SB berth).
  15. I'm guessing I am not a troll, and I would be concerned about Gronk BECAUSE he is one of the best TE to ever play in the NFL. Want proof? Look at what NE has done.In 2011, he really had no business playing in the Super Bowl with a severe ankle injury, yet the Pats ran him out there in the hopes that he could do something. This year, he broke his arm . . . and NE rushed him back and he re-broke it. Without the second break (which sounds like it partly stemmed from the plate they inserted), he most likely would not have had infection issues either.On the surface, it appears like Gronkowski hasn't missed much time, but if he suffered the same injuries early in the season he could have missed a ton of time. If he had an injured back, ankle, or broken arm at the start of the year, he could have missed half the regular season or more.But since he is so valuable to the Patriots, they will do everything they can to get him in the lineup, which is where I get concerned. We've already seen what can happen when you try to do too much too soon. And if Gronk is beat up and not 100%, should he still be considered the #1 TE if he was playing at 75-80%?And we haven't even discussed his off the field lifestyle, which could also get him a freak injury or a suspension if he got caught doing something really out there or drug related.So yes, people should be concerned, even if he "only" missed 5 games in 3 seasons.