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  1. One is not more wise than the other, nor is one more unwise. Not saying each always contributes 50/50, but both work together to produce knowledge. For me it's an unhelpful value judgement.
  2. I eat Combos snacks by nibbling off the outer pretzels, leaving a pile of cheesy middles with just a thin covering of pretzel. Then gobble all the middles.
  3. I apologize for hijacking my own thread, but that is something else I've been curious about. If I keep one day for a day of rest, does that mean I should avoid making others work? I live in Kentucky. If I'm a Christian and consider Sunday to be my holy day/day of rest, is it ok to go to Cracker Barrel after church, since I'm engaging in an activity where other people are having to work? Or do I just assume they will have a different holy day/day of rest?
  4. I think so. Are you saying that Jesus's example can be used as the basis for limiting the ability of others to do X?
  5. I realize my definition of theological is not as precise as it could be. By theological I only mean explanations containing God, Jesus, the bible, etc, as opposed to explanations not containing those things.
  6. Answer to your first question is no. I'm an atheist, so I think societal response is all we have. I'm just trying trying to ponder theological explanations.
  7. I understand your first sentence. Plenty of stories in the bible where entire towns receive some kind of judgement. Is there anything in the bible that says Christians should try to limit someone's ability to do X? To use someone else's example, why try to affect our moral practices by closing the strip club (based on religious/biblical/theological reasons only, instead of letting it remain open and trying to convince people not to go?
  8. I stated in my post that I'm not a theist, so I probably share a lot of abbottjamesr's conclusions about religion. But there is still value in asking questions, either for understanding the positions of the other side or for sharpening my own thoughts. I have plenty of moments when I'm highly critical of religious ideas, but this isn't one of those times.
  9. I wasn't trying to make a distinction between sinful and illegal vs legal. Maybe another way of framing my question is: if someone says X shouldn't be allowed because some religious/biblical/theological reason, why should we try to restrict X when God doesn't restrict our ability to choose X. I understand God doesn't condone everything, but he doesn't seem to prevent us from doing X.
  10. I wasn't trying to classify actions as theological vs non-theological. I was trying to avoid an explanation such as "X is bad because society can't function if everyone is doing X." Looking for theological explanations only.
  11. Thanks for all the replies. I'll try to respond as much as possible over the next few days.
  12. My question is this: what is the theological basis for prohibiting actions considered sinful and punishing those who commit the sins? Seems like God does not limit our ability to commit sins (whatever those may be) and is more active in healing (whatever that may be) and providing some kind of ultimate judgement. So why should we as humans prohibit certain actions? Shouldn't we let people choose to commit those actions, however sinful they may be, then let God's healing and judgement take over? I hesitate to offer this example, because I don't want the conversation to get derailed, but here goes: instead of trying to shut down abortion clinics, should they be allowed to stay open? If not, we're limiting someone's ability to choose to sin, something God himself doesn't seem to do. here's a little more information to provide clarity. I'm not a theist, but giving an honest effort to try and understand some things. As such, my knowledge of some items may not be up to oar as others. Also, I'm interested in theological explanations only. For example, there are non-theological reasons for prohibiting murder and theft, so I'm not interested in those examples. Also not interested in a discussion of where our morals come from, or whether certain things like murder, theft, and abortion are really sins or not. I pledge to keep this a civil discussion on my part, and I assure you this is an honest inquiry, I'm not fishing for schtick. Any follow up questions I ask will be to further my understanding, not to poke holes in your knowledge or reasoning. I'm also open to communicating through private messages if you prefer. Thanks everyone for your time.