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  1. hall is definitely an NFL player. was really fun two years ago with Bortles.
  2. It's completely irrelevant if the 2013 class turns out better than the 2009 class, that's not what the conversation was about. in fact , I'd be surprised if the 2009 class didn't turn out more successful than the 2009 class, which has completely fallen apart. we were comparing them as PROSPECTS, not what they actually turned into.
  3. There are 3-4 1st round wr this year. Watkins- top ten pick Evans- top 15 pick Lee- top 15 pick Matthews- top 30 pick Pretty decent. I also like Beckham Jr, Cooks,Robinson, Landry, Moncrief. I'm sure I'm missing some other WRs and havent even named the QBs/RBs/TEs Some of those guys will be 2nd round picks in rookie fantasy drafts, but I would be happy with some of those guys as well. I think there will be some good value in the 2nd round. But no WRs coming out with the Julio Jones or AJ Green type of hype? So this class will be a lot like last year's with some good value at the top, but not a lot of true studs? much better than last years
  4. Do you really think anybody here thinks that their "anecdotal lack of interest matters in the slightest"? (Not that I even recall very many saying they "lack interest") Ok. What's the point? it just comes off as whining. Is there some productive aspect I don't understand? Is this some form of emotional release that the rest of the board is going to benefit from? to me, I think it's blatantly obvious the product is terrible ... it's just masked by fantasy football and the amazing athleticism of the players.. the actual game itself sucks at this point
  5. If you touch Drew Brees, except in the designated area, its roughing the passer. For Drew Brees, the designated area apparently is the size of a dime right in the middle of his chest. hah! no joke, the Drew Brees roughing the passer call was what made me come post this... the guy did absolutely nothing wrong
  6. How is that any different than soccer, basketball, or whatever sport you would watch instead of football? I guess it's not really... basketball has gone down this road as well... my two favorite sports are both borderline unbearable to watch now
  7. what is a catch? / what is pass interference? / what is roughing the passer? are these games even fun to watch anymore? I find myself getting upset and frustrated with all the calls and ultimately choppy flow of the game. if you weren't involved with fantasy/had a team to root for, would this be a good product to watch? I say no
  8. too funny, he nails it every season lol
  9. I know you guys don't like Spam, so no link included... had been building this list over the first few weeks of the season, here's my first set of ranked devy rankings... obviously there's some guys who are going pro this season, but figured I'd include them anyway shout out to twitter, which without the constant streamline of info, I wouldn't know who half these players were... if you're not on yet... you crazy foos QBs 1. Teddy Bridgewater Louisville JR 2.Jameis Winston Florida St Freshman 3. Marcus Mariota Oregon RS Soph 4. Christian Hackenberg Penn St Freshman 5. Brett Hundley UCLA Soph 6. Sean Mannion Oregon St JR 7. Johnny Manziel Texas A&M RS Soph 8. Ford Childress West Virginia Freshman 9. Bryce Petty Baylor JR 10. Kevin Hogan Stanford JR 11.Maxwell Smith Kentucky Sophomore 12. Jared Goff California Freshman RBs 1.Todd Gurley Georgia Soph 2.Melvin Gordon Wisconsin RS Soph 3.TJ Yeldon Alabama Soph 4.Alex Collins Arkansas Freshman 5.Mike Davis South Carolina Soph 6.Lache Seastrunk Baylor JR 7.Bishop Sankey Washington JR 8.Jeremy Hill LSU RS Soph 9.Ka'Deem Carey Arizona JR 10.Ameer Abdullah Nebraska JR 11.Jonathan Williams Arkansas Soph 12.Duke Johnson Miami Soph 13.Keith Marshall Georgia Soph 14.Romar Morris North Carolina RS Soph 15.Tre Madden USC Soph 16.Jamaal Williams BYU Soph 17.Paul James Rutgers JR WR 1. Sammy Watkins Clemson JR 2. Marqise Lee USC JR 3. Mike Evans Texas A&M RS Soph 4. Stefon Diggs Maryland Soph 5. Davante Adams Fresno State RS Soph 6. Amari Cooper Alabama Soph 7. Leonte Carroo Rutgers Soph 8. Nelson Agholor USC Soph 9. Laquon Treadwell Ole Miss Fresh 10. Dorial Green-Beckham Missouri Soph 11.Sean Price Apalachian State RS Soph 12. Allen Robinson Penn St JR 13. Odell Beckam LSU JR 14. Paul Richardson Colorado JR 15. Brandin Cooks Oregon St JR 16. Jarvis Landry LSU JR 17. Antwan Goodley Baylor JR 18. Chris Harper California Soph 19. Shaq Roland South Carolina Soph 20.Sammie Coates Auburn Soph 21. DaVante Parker Louisville JR 22. Devon Cajuste stanford JR 23. Rashad Greene Florida St JR TE 1. Eric Ebron North Carolina JR 2. Devin Funchess Michigan Soph 3. Austin Seferian-Jenkins Washington JR 4. Jace Amaro Texas Tech JR 5. Colt Lyerla Oregon JR
  10. Annnnnddddd one more courtesy bump for good measure lol
  11. It's funny how full circle this thing has come. In January people said this class sucks....only 1 maybe 2 WR's worth taking in the first round. Now people are seeing 4 predicted and they are saying it's now overrated. The whole point of this thread is that they were underrated....now they are rated correctly. http://forumimages.footballguys.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/smile.gifYou are right though.....who cares how many first rounders? What matters is what they are doing 3 years from now. I think we will all be wishing we had a piece of this year's WR crop. I agree, I love Hopkins too. I also love Allen and Austin.......Patterson, I'm not too high on. The real point of all this is that this WR class was not even close to the 2009 class... That's the point , that's the comparison you were trying to make .. And again, with the first round over , it's still as ridiculous as I thought it was back in January lol
  12. Im going to http://forumimages.footballguys.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/pigskinp.gif you so you dont have too and because I agree with your opinion in this thread. Way to stand your ground. I think you were on the money. 3 is kind of like 6 , right? lol
  13. I sort agree with you about 'bad football players' -- that's what the 'poor rushing or receiving scores' indicate. The argument is that tall RBs with the same poorish level of skill get hurt more than the short ones. But you're also right that I didn't post anything very rigorous and no one should take my word for it. So I'll try to take some time and put something quantitative together. Or at the very least make sure I indicate which players fall into this category going forward (L Bell this year, for example) so we can compare going forward.But in the meantime I'm sticking stick to my guns here: poor vision and an inability to make yourself small is a fatal flaw in a RB and those players get hurt more often than similar players who are short.Wouldn't Adrian Peterson , Arian Foster and Steven Jackson fit the basic criteria also?