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  1. If the Jags do indeed try to trade for Tebow it wouldn't cost a high draft pick. I would guess it would cost a 4th or 5th. I don't think Tebow is going to be in Denver next year and I'm having trouble thinking of a team that would trade for him. It'll be a buyer's market for Tebow so if the Jags wanted him they could get him for cheap.This post is all kinds of wrong, so much so that I wonder if it is :fishing:To the point of the thread - gabbert is awful. :lol:
  2. I'm sure there are lots of things Elway will do with Tebow this off-season, which he has repeatedly said he would spend helping Tebow become a better QB.We can debate if it's possible to change mechanics (at his age, very difficult IMO) but to say Elway wouldn't try because that's a coach's job is to ignore the fact that he's going to help him with everything. That's the whole point of them working together (likely with the coaches as well).I'm not a Denver fan, so I won't pretend to be. I would just be hard pressed to find any president of a major company helping out any lower level guy with their job, when they have a supervisor. Was Michael Jordan teaching Bobcats how to shoot a jumper?I dunno maybe he will, I have my doubts.Jordan practices with the Bobcats sometimes. I remember hearing a quote from a player that he could still put up 20 a night if he were still playing. I have my doubts.http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Michael-Jordan-impresses-during-Charlotte-Bobcats-practice-021011
  3. With Tebow's elongated throwing motion and very slow release bubble screens and quick outs wouldn't be effective. Throws to the sidelines, particularly to his right, isn't one of his strengths. Pittsburgh did not defend well against Tebow's strength as a QB which is the down field, slower developing throw. Even the crossing routes he hit to Thomas in OT and the non-catch by Decker were one read plays that allowed (with good blocking bby the offensive line) Tebow to see the play develop and throw to his called play. The OC did a great job of calling the right play and Tebow made some really nice throws. With McGhee hobbled the Bronco's weren't going to beat the Steelers with Lance Ball and Tebow running into the line. The coaching staff very wisely allowed Tebow to pass early, it was their only real chance. The Wallace drop in the 2nd quarter and the Legursky bad snap were buzz kills for a Steelers offense that was struggling to do anything right in the first half. Denver's D played a physical/spirited game. Denver put it all together on Sunday and deserved to win the game. They run plenty of wide receiver bubble screens. They don't runs screens to the running back because those are built to counter an over-aggressive defense and defenses are the exact opposite against Tebow. The defensive line plays to contain him not to pressure him.I din't see them run any in the games I watched; Minny, Chicago, NE and Pittsburgh; none that were effective any way.His delivery is too slow. they haven't run any lately, IMO because teams are playing bump and run on the WR's. Can't really throw a bubble screen unless DB's are 8-10 yards off of the LoS. If defenses ever get scared of Tebow's deep game, bubble screens will open.I believe they ran three bubble screens to Royal on Sunday. One was called back for offensive PI on Willis near the goal line.
  4. Everybody heard Tebow saying he jumped into the stands after the OT touchdown. Surprisingly, there is no video of it and one picture. You'd think since the camera never leaves him they'd have at least one on him after he threw the touchdown. Here's the picture: Tebow Jumps Into Stands
  5. With Tebow's elongated throwing motion and very slow release bubble screens and quick outs wouldn't be effective. Throws to the sidelines, particularly to his right, isn't one of his strengths. Pittsburgh did not defend well against Tebow's strength as a QB which is the down field, slower developing throw. Even the crossing routes he hit to Thomas in OT and the non-catch by Decker were one read plays that allowed (with good blocking bby the offensive line) Tebow to see the play develop and throw to his called play. The OC did a great job of calling the right play and Tebow made some really nice throws. With McGhee hobbled the Bronco's weren't going to beat the Steelers with Lance Ball and Tebow running into the line. The coaching staff very wisely allowed Tebow to pass early, it was their only real chance. The Wallace drop in the 2nd quarter and the Legursky bad snap were buzz kills for a Steelers offense that was struggling to do anything right in the first half. Denver's D played a physical/spirited game. Denver put it all together on Sunday and deserved to win the game. They run plenty of wide receiver bubble screens. They don't runs screens to the running back because those are built to counter an over-aggressive defense and defenses are the exact opposite against Tebow. The defensive line plays to contain him not to pressure him.
  6. Lots of people expected him to play poorly and that's exactly what he did. You are attributing the team's success to him. Mark Sanchez has more career playoff wins than Matt Schaub. This is not because he's a better quarterback. It's because of coaching, supporting talent, and luck. This is not really a difficult concept to grasp. Trent Dilfer won more Super Bowls than Dan Marino. This is not because he's a better quarterback. It's because he had the benefit of playing against a relatively weak NFC contender on a team with an incredible defense. Again, correlation vs. causation. Tebow's presence on an 8-8 playoff team does not mean he caused an 8-8 playoff team. It's not really possible to quantify a quarterback's role in his team's win-loss record. We don't know where the Broncos would be without Tebow. Maybe they're winning because of him. Maybe they're winning in spite of him. The fact that his passing numbers rank near the bottom of the league suggests to me that it's probably the latter though. I think this is a case like the Sanchez Jets or the Dilfer Ravens where the circumstances have been so favorable that virtually any QB could yield decent results with this opportunity. That doesn't mean the QB gets all the credit. Put Matt Moore or Andy Dalton on a strong team in a cake division with a cake schedule and you'd probably get something like 8-8 as well. Doesn't mean they're great players or that they're proven anything. The 49ers were 13-3 this season. That's an elite record. Does that make Alex Smith an elite QB? No, of course not. He's only one piece of the puzzle and it's highly likely that the team would've produced similar results with any number of other players under center. Overall, Tebow played poorly this year. That his team has still managed to win some games and luck their way into the postseason doesn't make him a proven commodity or a respectable NFL QB.Tebow didn't play poorly, nor are his stats on the whole poor. He took a team that over the last two years has gone 4-14 with someone other than Tebow starting and including today's playoff win has gone 9-6. Does that make him an elite QB? Of course not, but then again no one is really making that argument except the people who want to shoot it down. He's a QB who still has less than one full season of NFL starts, does some things well and needs to improve in other areas. His completion percentage is low but he was also leading the league for most of the season in the percentage of his attempts over 15 yards, so part of it was a design of the offense. It's an overrated stat in general, but also one that probably has the most potential to advance quickly. At 25 attempts per game, which is probably Fox's sweet spot, the difference between 48% completion percentage and 60% is just 3 extra completions per game. It's not Tebow's delivery that's holding him back, it's his ability to read defenses and to a certain extent the game plan and play-calling. With a full off-season working with his receivers and continuing to refine what they want to do on offense he should easily be in the 55-60% range next year."Post of the Thread" award winner.
  7. No, not really. If you are willing to give TT the benefit of the doubt for being young, inexperienced, etc...why not Decker? Earlier in the year he was making plays and those plays weren't due strictly to the volume of passes that came his way. He was the most reliable WR on the rooster up until the past month or so.If he didn't close his eyes and squint every time he was about to catch a ball and take a hit, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. He doesn't have heart and heart isn't something you teach. He shies away from contact and that's not something that usually changes unless you're a character in "Jerry Maguire".Alright somebody has to say it. You are uncomfortablly in love with Tebow therefore bias and your opinion and point of view are worthless. You pretend you know the game of football but everytime you post you prove otherwise. TIM TEBOW SUCKS AS A NFL QUARTERBACK. You can blame the coaches, wide receivers, John Elway, the media or whoever the hell you like but the fact is TIM TEBOW SUCKS AS AN NFL QUARTERBACK.Outstanding analysis. Insightful comments like this are what makes this such a great forum. I'm especially a big fan of how you use subtlety to make your point, not to mention facts to back yourself up.Watch the games with an unbiased view and you'll have your facts.Maybe you should take your own advice. Is Tebow a great QB not yet, but he has shown potential to be one. You cannot just look at the passing yards with Tebow you need to look at his whole game. If your looking for Dan Marino your right, but if your looking for a young Steve Young type ( I know he needs to improve his passing more, but he has improved tons this season and with an offseason to work with Elway he should improve). Steve Young is a bad comparison to Tebow. Young came into the NFL with a great deal of experience reading defenses, passing, and an NFL ready compact, quick release.Tebow has none of that. The only similarity is that they are both white lefties that can run. In no way am I comparing Tebow to Young. That would be foolish. But to clear up some facts, Young played in the USFL for two years before the NFL and was pretty bad for his two years in Tampa.
  8. When did Tebow get exposed by the Chiefs? Last I checked they went in to KC and won. But hey your the Iexpert!It's Tebow's fault he only he had to throw 8 passes in that game to win. Obviously!
  9. No, not really. If you are willing to give TT the benefit of the doubt for being young, inexperienced, etc...why not Decker? Earlier in the year he was making plays and those plays weren't due strictly to the volume of passes that came his way. He was the most reliable WR on the rooster up until the past month or so.If he didn't close his eyes and squint every time he was about to catch a ball and take a hit, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. He doesn't have heart and heart isn't something you teach. He shies away from contact and that's not something that usually changes unless you're a character in "Jerry Maguire".
  10. I'd like to be on the board of the Eric Decker Hate Club. The guy's a joke. He plays like a woman's private part. There are some people I love watching play and some I hate. Decker is at the top of the latter's list.Funny; he was lighting it up when Orton was in there.I didn't know a quarterback change was an excuse for being terrible. Lighting it up? Hardly. Plus, Thomas has done ok with Tebow. Maybe it's because he doesn't start crying every time he hears an opponent's footsteps.Extrapolate his numbers with Orton over 16 games and he goes 80-1080 and 16 TDS. When you have a terrible passing QB your wide receivers suffer.Seriously. That's just a weird statement from shnikies. Of course the QB impacts how well a WRs play is perceived.I'm not basing his performance on the QB play. I'm basing it on the fact that Decker has been horrible. It's the QB's fault that he drops passes, doesn't high point the ball and slides on his knees for any pass below his numbers?He didn't seem to be having those problems when Orton was throwing him the ball. The guy also went from 8.2 to 5.1 targets per game. I am not saying he is great, or even that you are wrong, but his situation has changed dramatically throughout the season and that accounts for something in his performance.Orton also threw the ball 35 times a game during the first four games. Obviously when you throw the ball 50% less the receiver's stats will suffer. I'm not looking ay stats, I'm looking at the receiver, a very bad receiver.
  11. I'd like to be on the board of the Eric Decker Hate Club. The guy's a joke. He plays like a woman's private part. There are some people I love watching play and some I hate. Decker is at the top of the latter's list.Funny; he was lighting it up when Orton was in there.I didn't know a quarterback change was an excuse for being terrible. Lighting it up? Hardly. Plus, Thomas has done ok with Tebow. Maybe it's because he doesn't start crying every time he hears an opponent's footsteps.Extrapolate his numbers with Orton over 16 games and he goes 80-1080 and 16 TDS. When you have a terrible passing QB your wide receivers suffer.Seriously. That's just a weird statement from shnikies. Of course the QB impacts how well a WRs play is perceived.I'm not basing his performance on the QB play. I'm basing it on the fact that Decker has been horrible. It's the QB's fault that he drops passes, doesn't high point the ball and slides on his knees for any pass below his numbers?
  12. I'd like to be on the board of the Eric Decker Hate Club. The guy's a joke. He plays like a woman's private part. There are some people I love watching play and some I hate. Decker is at the top of the latter's list.Funny; he was lighting it up when Orton was in there.I didn't know a quarterback change was an excuse for being terrible. Lighting it up? Hardly. Plus, Thomas has done ok with Tebow. Maybe it's because he doesn't start crying every time he hears an opponent's footsteps.
  13. Not all "bad games" are equal. Brady threw 4 picks against Buffalo but he also had 4 TDs, 387 yards, and an 86.1 passer rating, and he only lost the game on a last-second field goal. Tim Tebow dreams he had a game like that yesterday.Yes you know you are comparing a Hall of Famer to Tim Tebow right?Actually, it was the previous poster who tried to compare a Hall of Famer to Tim Tebow. I just set the record straight a bit.He didn't compare Tebow to Brady. He said "Brady threw 4 picks against the same defense" which is a fact.Fact: Brady's 4 picks came on 45 attemptsFact: Tebow's 4 picks came on 30 attempts Fact: in that same game, Brady was sacked 0 times and had 0 fumbles. Fact: in that same game, Tebow was sacked 3 times and had 1 fumble. Not that I'm making comparisons. Just stating facts, you know. Cool.
  14. Not all "bad games" are equal. Brady threw 4 picks against Buffalo but he also had 4 TDs, 387 yards, and an 86.1 passer rating, and he only lost the game on a last-second field goal. Tim Tebow dreams he had a game like that yesterday.Yes you know you are comparing a Hall of Famer to Tim Tebow right?Actually, it was the previous poster who tried to compare a Hall of Famer to Tim Tebow. I just set the record straight a bit.He didn't compare Tebow to Brady. He said "Brady threw 4 picks against the same defense" which is a fact.
  15. Elway was at 47.5% his rookie year on 259 attempts.Randy Johnson 43.7% 297 attemptsAkili Smith 44.2%Joe Pisarcik 47.5%