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  1. Honest question: I've read repeatedly that most of these migrants are from Central & South America and are fleeing violence, and that is the reason they are seeking refuge. Are some of these folks also seeking refugee status in Mexico? Does Mexico have the ability to offer asylum? I haven't really seen that written about anywhere.
  2. Those perpetrators may be indirectly to blame, sure. But the people to blame directly in this case are those who can't recognize that the sight of a Confederate flag within the confines of a historical presentation is not the same as a confederate flag flying from the back of an F-150. Context and nuance matters, and people who pretend it doesn't are simply brats stamping their feet trying to get their own way.
  3. No, my guess is he will not be studying the same thing over the next few years. But, if he chose to do so, I wouldn't stop him. It's not like the Civil War Days & reenactment is compulsory. Nobody HAS to go, but neither is it a bad thing if someone chooses to go every single year. For most folks, once is likely enough. I've been to the Field Museum more than once. I've seen the same exhibits multiple times. Still interesting to me, and those are static exhibits. Civil Wars Days is an immersive event. People can walk through camps, ask questions, etc. There are sometimes actors impersonating Lincoln, etc. It's fun for those who choose to go. Never have I heard of an inkling of racism or any other type of malicious behavior at this event. But, a guy realized there are Confederate flags present and decided he knows best. Then when he was called out on asserting more power than he actually has, he reversed his decision (grudingly). But, the genie was out of the bottle by then, and now we have activist groups threatening the event. Those 'threats' would not have existed had the Board President not unilaterally offered some misguided, uninformed opinions.
  4. Yes, protesters too, provided they are in the confines of the law. But, I'd simply like one person to enlighten me as to what they are protesting.
  5. No, but the point is the crowds are different each year. Anyone can attend (or not attend).
  6. My son learned about the Constitution this year in 7th grade. By your logic, next year's 7th graders should learn about something else, since the Constitution has already been covered.
  7. I don't see why it matters where the reenactment takes place. Are you suggesting it's necessary to travel to Normandy to learn about D-Day? Or do we need to tour Hiroshima to learn about the atomic bomb detonation? If something didn't occur in our back yards, then we shouldn't learn about it in an immersive way?
  8. Are you saying it is good that this was cancelled? If so, why? And to those of you saying this isn't a great way to learn about history, I think you're very wrong. But, even if you were right, why would you care one way or another if these occur? They don't cost the Forest Preserve District money (ours may even have been a revenue-maker, though I'm not sure about that).
  9. I understand 99% of people don't have much interest in this. I'm a bit of a history nerd and majored in History in college, so I have an affinity most people don't. What rankles me and made me actually start a topic is the increasingly pervasive idea that if something offends somebody, it must be cancelled. Whatever happened to simply thinking to yourself 'hey, it's not for me, so I'm not going to participate???' Too many people today think their sensibilities simply MUST be shared by everyone, and about no other subject is that more true than the perception of racism. I read the Board President's comments more than 2 weeks ago and I STILL can't believe someone could be that obtuse. His comments are just nonsensical. But, because people are afraid to be seen as racist (he is African American himself), he is never even really seriously challenged on them.
  10. Well, there doing a reenactment in a place where there was no battle because people here are interested in it. Why does it matter if the battle they reenact is nowhere near here? I could see it being odd if there had been a battle near this spot, and they chose to reenact something else entirely, but northern Illinois has no battlefields, so in effect they picked something else. I believe they DID pick a battle which had Illinois regiments involved, so that makes sense. And I'm not expecting anyone to care if this particular event is cancelled. But the point is, thousands of locals like this event and see value in it from a historical perspective. Now, after 27 years, there is apparently a growing feeling that it is inappropriate for what are foolish reasons (at least to me). I've looked at various comments on social media, and it seems the reflexive reaction of some people (usually young people who might fall under the SJW umbrella) is that it's racist and dumb to be reliving this portion of our past. Nobody cites any reasons for their displeasure other than 'there are confederate flags involved' or 'there was slavery then!'. It's mind boggling to me.
  11. Why study ANY history? The answer is to learn from it and hopefully avoid repeating our mistakes. While it was horrific for those involved, I think most people would agree it was a necessary war and the outcome changed the course of our country for the better.
  12. It's a two-part story. This link explains the original cancellation a couple of weeks ago. Quotes from the Board President explain his thinking (I guess) “There were a considerable number of Confederate flags and a number of other things I took into consideration,” Kyle said. In 2015, the district staged Civil War Days shortly after South Carolina removed the battle flag from its state Capitol. At the time, forest preserves officials said Confederate flags were not being displayed inappropriately at the Lake County event and were used in a historical context. Kyle said on Tuesday that history is written by the victors, and he believes there is only one side to the story being told at re-enactment events. “Our ancestors told us what really happened. Did you know that black soldiers were put on the front line in the North and Southern front lines so they would be killed first?” he asked fellow board members. “There should be some consideration taken for that,” Kyle said, adding that he also feels some people are tired of the event.