Drew Brees Thread in The Shark Pool (NFL Talk) Posted 3 hours ago · Edited 3 hours ago by ConnSKINS26 10 hours ago, Bigboy10182000 said: It’s simply a way to get you off the point and into line. Nothing more. It’s happening in this thread already. How many people touched that Chicago comment you made a few pages ago besides me? It’s 2020 where emotion > facts Because it shows a basic misunderstanding of the issue, if you'll allow me to explain and read through before you respond, hopefully I can lay it out. People in general are overwhelmingly more likely to be killed by the people they live around, in their towns and neighborhoods, when it comes to violent crime. Due to the fact that black americans are still more likely to live near black americans and white americans are still more likely to live near white americans, a lot of the violent crime within each population statistically is going to look "self-inflicted", which in itself (labelling something as "black-on-black" or "white-on-white" crime as if these are cohesive groups and not just people who live near each other) is a misunderstanding of what's going on because that type of violence is much more of an economic/class issue than a race issue. And so is the fact that neighborhoods and towns are still so likely to break down along racial lines like that. But that's another conversation entirely, so I'll continue: The big thing is that people (civilians) murdering each other is ALREADY ILLEGAL and justice is already sought in those cases. Police killing citizens, while also technically illegal, is something that very rarely results in what your average person would consider "justice". Police in America are more likely to interact with a black person than a white person in the first place due to profiling. Then, the next step is that they're more likely to arrest a black person than a white person for the same non-violent crime (for instance, simple drug possession or a traffic crime). In those interactions, and obviously in violent crime situations also, they are more likely to perceive a threat and use excessive force or lethal force against a black person, compared to a white person. Unarmed and non-violent black suspects (even using the word suspect is a loaded term here because the point is that it doesn't even always take a positive ID, probable cause, or reasonable suspicion) are just less likely to make it through an interaction with police alive compared to a white person, and that's what it boils down to. So lately in this country you may see the misleading statistic that police officers kill almost as many, or as many, white people as black people. People are parroting that right now just like you're bringing up unrelated civilian crime in Chicago. But that refers to police killings involved in violent crimes. Remember what I said above about non-violent and unarmed black people being killed at a higher rate. So that's a case of statistics lying to your face because the important context there is that police interact with black people at a much higher rate, despite there being tons more white people in this country to begin with. And since police are more likely to take a violent approach to dealing with a black person, every interaction is more dangerous including ones that should not turn violent at all. And in almost all cases of police killings, white or black, cops are suffering nothing but a slap on the wrist or a transfer to a new town or a paid vacation. No matter how many times they've had complaints of violence or excessive force filed against them, they're protected because they can say they feared for their life (which due to profiling and subconscious biases, they are actually more likely to feel, which is another branch to this whole thing that this post isn't about). Even if caught on film. Even if they aren't using their body cams. Even with witnesses. That's what the protests and BLM are about, because police in this country are out of control and basically have immunity when it comes to consequences for their actions. In general police officers interact with black people at an unreasonable rate compared to white people, while perceiving more of a threat to themselves even when black people DO comply or DON'T have a weapon. So they are killing black people in situations where they wouldn't even pull a gun or use force on a white person. They aren't de-escalating, they are treating certain populations like deadly criminals from the jump in their interactions, and there are a lot of reasons for that, some of which I've already mentioned or implied. Listen, it's complicated. And I'm sure I didn't change your mind here. But if you're asking in good faith why these protests exist for police violence but not for civilian violence in a city like Chicago, this is your answer. And hopefully I delivered it in a reasonable and polite way, because this argument/question you brought here can and many times is seen as purposefully disingenuous, but I don't think you're doing that so I give you the benefit of the doubt.