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  1. As far as I'm concerned, Haskins checks nearly every box in what you'd want in a QB. Size - Dude's a prototype in this department, he's big, he's meaty, he's not going to be easy to sack and he has that nice thick frame where he can take a hit and get back up without much issue. Arm Strength - He's not quite Mike Vick, but he can throw it 40 yards downfield on a dime and displayed that a lot last year. I can live with him not being able to throw it 85 yards the 5 times a season that type of play opens up. Accuracy - Kids hyper accurate on short/intermediate throws and seems to have consistently improved his deep ball accuracy as the season progressed last year. Footwork - Good footwork, not elite, but really good for his age an experience. He can get a little sloppy sometimes with it when throwing on the run, but most QBs get a bit sloppy throwing on the run, I'm sure this is something that'd be worked on a lot in the pros. Pocket Presence - Natural. Fluid. Those would be the best words I could use to describe him in the pocket. He seems to have that spidey sense for the pocket collapsing around him. Release - There was a tweet yesterday I saw that he basically tested in the elite category for release time and you can see that in his tape too. He has an extremely tight, compressed release. Guy gets the ball out of his hand so fast it's almost hard to see it on film, one minute the balls in his chest, you blink and it's in the air. This is a HUGE part of the game that's really a lot harder to fix this late in your life. Having a naturally fast release is a huge benefit to him. Character - From everything I've read and interviews I've watched, he's basically Saquon Barkley of QBs. Straight A student his whole life, nobody ever had anything bad to say about him, seems like he has a great head on his shoulders. Football IQ - This is a bit tougher to gauge but from watching him on the field and watching a few of those NFL Network/ESPN interviews with him on the XOs he seems to have a really high football IQ. Couple that with his high character and it makes for an ideal pairing for a locker room leader at the position. Downfield Vision - Watch film when this kid is under pressure, early in the season he would look down a lot at the defender coming into his face, but after the first few games he really seemed to fall into a Drew Brees like pattern. When he's scrambling he never seems to take his eye off his receivers, always going through his progressions. He also seems to be really good at going through his reads, very fast, very fluid, has a natural ability for looking defenders off that you don't usually see from a college QB, especially a 1st year starter. Coachability - This is the biggest pro to me for Haskins. We saw him go from incredibly raw, to being one of the most refined all around QBs in college by the end of the season. He never really regressed, every game he was building upon an aspect of his game. If he's able to do that in a single season in college, imagine what he could do with the amount of coaches and support staff he'd have in the pros. He seems like a student of the game. There are countless examples of QBs with all the skills but could never put it together because they didn't take to coaching well. Haskins seems to have all the skills and the ability to be coached up. In the right hands, he could be a dominant force in the NFL in a few years. Speed/Mobility - His biggest con probably, he's a pocket passer, a lot of people want to see him run more and I do think he'll run better than the 5.04 he ran at the combine at his pro day. He was dealing with cramps and seemed to show better speed on tape than 5.04, which is Eli/Peyton/Brady levels of slow. I think he'll clock more in the 4.75-4.80 range at his pro day. Far from Kyler Murray/Michael Vick territory, but he can move when he needs too. Experience - Simply put, he's a one year starter. That's scary for some teams, you never know if he just had that one Cinderella season (ala 2013 Nick Foles) and then regress heavily from there. But as a Giants fan, I for one am hoping they're all in on Haskins. I personally like him about as much as I liked Darnold and Mayfield last year. If he had the tape he had from this year but came out last year, I'd have probably had him in that top tier with those two and above Rosen and Allen.
  2. I'd be shocked if Bell plays again in a Steelers uniform personally. After all that stuff w/ his teammates coming out publicly to bash him, I'm really not sure how he can return to the locker room and act like nothing happened. I've legitimately never seen something like that before, usually players stick together. Even if they are annoyed the word to the press is always: So that's #1. Only way he suits up for the Steelers in my eyes is if they bite the bullet and pay him, which is doubtful. If he does somehow show up after the bye though... I'd say he's like a 50% split w/ Connor. He can be in as much shape as he wants ,everyone knows football shape and conditioning shape are two totally different things. Having the bye week will help, but I'd guess he would be on a semi-snap count going into that game.
  3. See, I disagree. I think what we're seeing is Nagy realize that Cohen fits his scheme and style better than Howard. Nagy is from the Andy Reid school, where north/south running is secondary to a RB who can work with the ball in space. Howard is a great downhill runner, but he's pedestrian in open space. Something tells me you're going to see this become more of a committee where Cohen is seeing 10 carries and 5-8 targets a game through the air. That's not a ton of work, but with his talent, it's enough to make him a low-end RB2 at worst in PPR.
  4. These stats definitely give me some optimism. A 20% completion rate is pretty amazing. And it seems like a good percentage of his incompletions are the result of pass breakups. I don't care a ton about the picks thing. Watching his tape he struck me as a guy who will never have high INT counts. He plays far too safe. Which is one reason I prefer him to Hargraves. We just signed Jenkins who is known for being a huge risk taker. We don't want two risk takers on the field at once. We'd have far to many blown coverages. The more I think about the pick the more it grows on me. So looking at the pick in a vacuum. I didn't like it because I felt Apple was a later guy. But the more I think about it, really after the Top 10 guys in this draft, there was a fall off and then this big mushy pile of like 30 guys who could all have slid in from 11-32. I think Apple and Hargraves were both part of that pile. When I finally looked at it the following way is when I started coming around to the pick: 1.10 - NYG: Eli Apple - CB - Ohio State 1.11 - TBB: Vernon Hargraves - CB - Florida - I just went over why I actually prefer Apple here. Apparently a lot of information came out this morning that most people had Apple higher on their boards anyway. So Jerry can't make this pick. 1.12 - NOS: Sheldon Rankins - DT - Louisville - Rankins was a great fit but I don't think the Giants were ever targeting DT in the 1st round. There's SOOOO much depth at DT in this draft and we actually have decent depth at the DT position. I think we'll take a DT in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. But it was never going to be the 1st round pick. 1.13 - MIA: Laremy Tunsil - OT - Ole Miss - This couldn't be the pick, the Giants don't draft massive character concerns. Especially not with a top 10 pick. It's possible Tunsil ends up being a perennial all pro and the steal of the 2016 draft. It's also possible he's the next Josh Gordon and has worlds of talent but can't stop smoking. 1.14 - OAK: Karl Joseph - S - West Virginia - The Giants were never going Safety in the first round. They're likely not even going Safety in the 2nd round. I think they're happy with their stable of young developing safeties right now. 1.15 - CLE: Corey Coleman - WR - Baylor - You think I was upset initially when Apple was picked? I may have broken my television if they took Coleman @ 10. 1.16 - DET: Taylor Decker - OT - Ohio State - Would have been an even bigger reach than Apple @ 10. 1.17 - ATL: Keanu Neal - SS - Florida - He was a reach for Atlanta at 17. At 10 he would've been the biggest reach in recent first round history. 1.18 - IND: Ryan Kelly - C - Alabama - We definitely didn't need a Center. 1.19 - BUF: Shaq Lawson - DE - He could have possibly been the pick. Edge rusher is definitely a need. But it would've been a reach. A lot of people are sour on Lawson and for good reason. He had one season of production under his belt. 1.20 - NYJ: Darron Lee - OLB - Position of need? Yes. Would have been a reach at 10? Yes. What bothers me about Lee though, and I'm sure the Giants saw this as well is that he seems to have issues in coverage against TEs. Which isn't want you want in your future WILL. So looking at the next.. 10 picks after the Giants, who else should they have taken that would have been the "right" pick? There was just as much a reason for Apple as any of these other guys. I don't think there was a single pick outside of "maybe" Tunsil that would have pleased fans. And lets be honest here, we need a RT not a LT and you don't take a RT in the Top 10. They can come in tonight and take someone like Jason Spriggs at 40 and put him at RT and be a much better team for it. I'm also happy they didn't trade up to get Conklin or Floyd. This is a super deep draft. There are starting caliber players in the 3rd and 4th round which is rare. Throwing away one of those picks would have been a mistake.
  5. Not sure what Dane Brugler is smoking. The tape I'm watching he seems to be extremely fearful of contact. Seemingly ever play he does a fantastic job dissecting the play but then shy's away from contact to make a big play. Which scares me. Seems like the kid has great ability reading plays off the snap but puts himself in weird positions when he's asked to make a tackle.
  6. Ian Rapoport: Donald Penn (LT) visting Giants today, Penn and Raiders are in contract stalemate.
  7. Yeah no problem man, it's an exciting (if not terrifying) time to be a Giants fan. If these signings work out, we're going to go from the worst defense in the NFL to possibly one of the top. If Vernon, Jenkins, Snacks and JPP all play up to potential? We'll have a great defense. Maybe not quite our 2007 defense but much better than our 2011 defense. If they don't work out though, we're likely burning away Eli's last years. If we don't sign an OT in the free agent market, I could see us drafting someone like Jason Spriggs or Vandal Alexander in the 2nd/3rd round possibly. I agree, I'm a big fan of Bobby Hart, he showed some really good stuff last year in his limited play to me. I think with a full offseason of OTAs/TC etc. at the starting RG position he could really be a surprise and really help anchor what could be a perennial pro bowl caliber interior OL. I don't think there's much of an argument that Richburg was one of, if not the best Center(s) in the NFL last season. Pugh was an amazing LG as well. Flowers still worries me, like I'm not 'totally' against drafting Stanley if he slips as I think he projects better as a LT. Where as I always thought Flowers is a more natural RT fit wise, he's a brawling run blocker but a real trouble as a pass blocker. Agreed as well on WRs, we need someone. The ONE thing I will say here is this, I think the cold market push the Giants have seemed to make on WRs bodes well for Cruz's health. I think if the coaches and FO were projecting Cruz to not be the same guy, we would've seen a bigger push for someone like Marvin Jones. The fact that the Giants so far haven't even so much as been confirmed to bring in a WR for interviews tells me Cruz's arrow is pointing way up. If they were even mildly unsure about his status I think they'd be pushing harder for a bigger name FA. Personally, I'd absolutely ADORE signing Boldin to a one or two year deal. If for nothing more than a locker room presence. Imagine how much different the Panthers game goes last year if Boldin is on the Giants? You can bet your ### he'd have smacked Beckham up side the head and set him straight. I really think someone like Boldin is the perfect guy to be in our locker room and help mold Beckham from a personal standpoint. We know OBJ has all the talent in the world to be in the conversation for best WR to ever play the game if he keeps it up, there's no question on his talent. The problem is his hot headed nature. He really needs a mentor in the locker room. Someone who has been through it all and I can't think of a better guy than Boldin. If we don't sign a WR in FA, there's a few guys I like later in the draft. There's a few guys who could fall to the 2nd round, the only "sure thing" 1st round WR is Treadwell. After him who knows. I think if Coleman or Doctson falls to the 2nd they're worth a 2nd round pick. Otherwise, I really like Tyler Boyd and Kenny Lawler as well in the 2nd/3rd rounds. All of these guys are bigger, stronger guys to act as a compliment to OBJ. Honestly, one position I don't see a ton of people discussing is RB. I'm hoping we make a pick for a RB in the 3rd or 4th though. Vereen is only valuable as a 3rd down back, Jennings is older and won't stand up to 20 carries a game and Williams is as useful as a barbed wire loofah. I love me some Kenneth Dixon. I think there's still a chance that Elliot is the pick at 10 though. The Giants are known to go BPA and with the moves they've made in FA they're setup well for BPA. I don't see how Elliot isn't BPA if he slides to 10.
  8. Interested to see what they do the rest of this week. So far I'm a fan of the signings they've made. They definitely overpaid for Snacks and Jenkins and probably overpaid for Vernon. But that's what they had to do... with the money Oakland, Jax and the Giants had, it was physically impossible for them to sign players are 'market value' deals. I think a lot of people are overrating Vernon's "overpay" though. The structure of the deal is fantastic. It was originally reported as 5 years/$85M with $52M guaranteed. However that's not really telling the whole story. Vernon's deal is actually only $40M guaranteed. The other $12.5M is injury guarantee in year 3, but the $12.5 isn't guaranteed unless he's on the roster day 3 in 2018. Really, the deal is structured as a 2 year $40M contract with 100% guaranteed. Which is fine, because the team knows we have/had tons of cap space this year and next. So it's a very low risk signing. If he doesn't work out, we didn't hedge our future like the Dolphins did with Suh's contract last year. If Vernon does work out, then we have him under contract for pretty solid deals in years 3-5. Jenkins and Snacks are also structured fairly nicely in that they have a nice even cap hit year-to-year. Making future cap projection easier, which is a bigger deal than it seems. There's no way they're done yet though, I'm guessing/hoping that today and tomorrow we'll start to hear more from them. They have an offer out to Russell Okung, he's a real wildcard. But I'd love if they signed him. He'll likely be overpaid as well because he isn't "that" good. But I really hate the idea of drafting another first round OT this season like Stanley. Jordan Raanan seems to think the Giants will be heavily in the mix for Patrick Robinson for their slot corner position. He was extremely early in the game (a few days before) on their heavy interest in Snacks and Vernon. So there's reason to believe he's onto something. Although this sort of eliminates another "option" for first round draft which would be the possibility of Hargraves falling to us at 10. There's definitely a few more depth signings to come but I'm guessing we'll see one or two more "big" deals. If they don't get Okung they could be in play for Donald Penn or Kelvin Beachum. Odds are they stay away from safety, they have 3 young guys who all have potential to fill in at FS this year. What's more interesting to me at this point is the draft... the Giants are in a really really odd spot in this seasons draft. We always hear "best available" with the Giants but I'm really not sure who the best available will be. I honestly think it's 50/50 on whether the Giants even pick at 10. I think there's a solid shot they trade down. Especially if something happens like the Browns trading for Kaepernick and not taking Wentz @ 2. That could really shake up the entire draft. If Wentz is there at 10, the Giants would be insane not to trade the pick away. If we're being realistic, there's unlikely to be Top 10 talent @ #10 overall that we'll actually be able to use. Ramsey, Jack, Tunsil, Bosa, Stanley, Elliot, Buckner could all be gone (likely will be) by pick 10. We just spent big money on Jenkins, we have DRC and Jenkins locked up for 3 seasons. And if we sign a slot corner (which many think we will) I don't see Hargraves being a realistic option. At that point we're in a weird spot, there's really no pass rushers worthy of a Top 10 pick except Bosa. There's really not DT worthy of a top 10 pick except Buckner, especially not considering the depth of the position. One guy I've seen a few beat writers hype up for the Giants is Leonard Floyd. Which would be interesting... kids explosive as hell but I worry he's too small. He'd have to live in the cafeteria for the whole offseason. The draft is definitely going to be interesting though because there's arguably no good pick for the Giants at 10 with the way they've made moves in FA. Who knows... maybe they shock the world and draft Wentz and pull a GB Packers. Let Wentz sit and develop for 3-4 years under Eli. Most people feel he has all the tools but needs development time anyway. Would sure be interesting.
  9. I believe this to an extent, however guys like Randy Moss, T.O. and Jerry Rice were prepared for and it didn't matter. Sometimes talent/system trumps preparation. It is such a silly argument. Like NFL teams didn't realize Beckham was their only real offensive threat and didn't try to game plan against him. I know not all NFL coaches are geniuses, but come on they aren't total idiots. There were several games later in the season where he was triple covered on a few plays and still outran the coverage. It's like people forget that as teams had more and more tape on him, he became harder and harder to stop. He just got better after every game. And that was after being a rookie in the NFL and missing every single training camp, OTA, preseason snap AND 4 games. He had literally zero training with the team outside of meetings and book studying. Think about the chemsitry Eli and OBJ had last year when they had no real time to build that chemistry. This year? He's been there for Training Camp and all offseason. Anyone thinking that last year was his ceiling is fooling themselves. Even if he doesn't put up quite the stats he did last year, there's good likelihood that he bests his rookie season again in his career.
  10. There is no group more physical than the Seahawks. He went for 7,108 on them. People are looking for a "weakness" at this point, grasping for straws. The only thing that can stop OBJ is injury. And you know that 44 of that was on one play that Sherman didn't get a hand on him. The rest of the game he was 6/64/0. That's containment. How can you take away a big play that happened? Wouldn't that be the same as arguing there was two passes he didn't catch. He was 7 of 9 on that day. One was a 40 yard bomb. He should have finished.... 8 for 148 and a TD. Whats the difference? People that take away plays that happened make me laugh. Its an argument for people who have none. That's a relevant thing to do in certain situations. If someone has 2 games all season that account for like 40% of their stats (Doug Martin rookie season), it's a reasonable study to remove those two games and reevaluate the situation. But you can't just remove a big play from a random game. That serves no purpose. Unless it's a situation like Latvius Murray where he blew off that like 80 yard TD run and then did little but be normal the rest of the year. Some people get lucky, but when you're talking about a guy like OBJ who had 16 catches of 20+ yards in 12 games. It's hardly an outlier that he caught a 44 yard pass. He was averaging at least one big play a game.
  11. There is no group more physical than the Seahawks. He went for 7,108 on them. People are looking for a "weakness" at this point, grasping for straws. The only thing that can stop OBJ is injury. And you know that 44 of that was on one play that Sherman didn't get a hand on him. The rest of the game he was 6/64/0. That's containment. Well if 6 for 64 and a random 40 yard catch is a bad game, he is the best player in fantasy this year.This is what I'm saying... since when is 6-64 and a fluke 40 yard catch to make it 7-104 a bad game? If that's how we're defining bad games this year I can't wait for this season. But apparently OBJ was so good, that if you dislike him you literally have to say stuff like "He only caught 6 for 64 outside of that big 44 yard play".
  12. How did he show his weakness? By admitting it bothers him when the DB plays body instead of the ball. You don't think that they will be leveling shots at him all day long. Teams aren't going to let him dominate like he did last year. They've had months to prepare and learn how to exploit his weaknesses. Will it stop him completely? No, but it may slow him and frustrate him to the point he becomes manageable. This is what everyone said for every single game last year. Every game "They're going to figure him out eventually and shut him down". It's the same #### people have been saying about Antonio Brown for the past 3 years because "he's too small to be a #1 WR in the NFL". Fact is, some people just have "it" I think Beckham more than prooved he had "it" by having arguably the greatest rookie season in NFL history.
  13. There is no group more physical than the Seahawks. He went for 7,108 on them. People are looking for a "weakness" at this point, grasping for straws. The only thing that can stop OBJ is injury. And you know that 44 of that was on one play that Sherman didn't get a hand on him. The rest of the game he was 6/64/0. That's containment. Hahaha... okay, so now we're just saying #### like "Beating the #1 CB in the league for a 44 yard play and then ONLY going 6/64 isn't good". 6/64/0 is better than most WRs do against Sherman. People grasping at straws on the OBJ anti-hype train are going to be upset they didn't take him this season.
  14. I'll admit that I'm partially fishing, if the Salty Haters admit they are also partially fishing. Seriously though, a lot of people here are over-stating the level of guilt found in the report. Yes, there are lots of texts that look bad. But there are legitimate holes in the report. Ted Wells knew there were holes, which is why he didn't conclude guilt for sure. And if he didn't conclude guilt for sure, how could anyone else? I think you mistake the term "holes" for the term "lack of definitive evidence of guilt". The two are not interchangible. In fact, there are very few, if any holes in Wells documentation and I would implore you to point them out. The only hole is the lack of a smoking gun. If they had a text from Brady or too Brady stating clearly that he was involved it'd be done. But dammit if they don't have a pile of stuff that all points to the all but certain fact that Brady cheated.
  15. It's just so unbelievably entertaining that any one person can be so blissfully ignorant. In situations such as these I can't simply turn away and ignore the ignorance. It's like a coke addict ignoring an 8 ball on the table in front of him. My brain just can't understand how people can have evidence literally thrust down their throat and just brush it off with such horribly flawed explanations. Simple fact is, just throwing away the entire document due to the usage of the word 'probable' and ignoring the "more probably than not" is just ridiculous. Perfect example, the THEORY of Gravity could be stated as: "Our study concluded that the theory of gravity is more probable than not" that doesn't mean gravity doesn't suddenly exist. Just like saying that the study concluded it's more probable than not that Tom Brady is a cheating piece of ####. Both the same thing.