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I Am the Stig

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  1. At 446 pages, you should hope to find someone who loves you the way the Shark Pool loves talking about Josh Gordon.
  2. And The league ruled what they wanted to do. Another league may have done nothing. I’m not trying to convince you of anything and you aren’t going to change my mind. It is ok that we see this differently.
  3. We have laws against murder. We also have laws that allow killing under specific circumstances. There was no rule either requiring disclosure of or forbidding extra conditions on trades.
  4. I say you do and you say you don’t. That’s the beauty of different leagues with different opinions and rules. This league will decide for itself how to handle this.
  5. There was no requirement to disclose the conditions as there is no league vote on trades. Stop projecting your league rules and standards onto this league. It was a bad oversight but legal within the framework of the league. The trade would be collusion in your league. Both things can be true.
  6. And yet there are laws against exposing oneself as well as public urination.
  7. How thick does a bylaw have to be to say: "All conditions of a trade beyond player currency, must be made available for league review." ?
  8. Lots of things can be written to address the spirit of the unwritten rules to cover unforeseen scenarios. In fact several rules and procedures could have been put in place to prevent this type of trade from being processed. The reality this league was woefully short on rules and this is what happens.
  9. While in your league such “currency” may not be allowed in this league it was not expressly forbidden. You can’t look at this as what is right or wrong in your league. What only matters is how the affected league rules are and how they will address this moving forward.
  10. No disclosure was required therefor nothing was kept secret. He willingly agreed to the terms to sit MT. He easily could have passed on the trade, nothing was forced upon him.
  11. No, he wasn’t forced to do anything he wasn’t willing to do. He is the one who wanted MT. MT was not forced upon him. This was more a situation of “would you rather” and he would rather have MT for 3 out of 4 weeks or not at all.
  12. They made a trade that was public knowledge to the league. The league, regardless of the players involved have no say and no recourse to either discuss, veto or question the trade. There simply is no league requirement to disclose the conditions of the trade. There was nothing "secret" about the trade. Everyone saw the trade. Where it went sideways was the league questioning the new MT owners decision to sit MT. Again, this is another question that is frankly none of the leagues business unless rules specifically state that all managers must start their most obvious players or best lineup based on projected points.
  13. That is why it is great discussion, but it is not collusion by only the slimmest of margins.
  14. Sorry but it does. It was a condition of the trade and the trade is the transaction. IF there was no trade and they discussed roster lineups that is collusion because it was secret in every way possible. The trade was not secret but the full condition was not disclosed. The trade did not happen in secret but there was no requirement to disclose the extra condition based on current league rules.
  15. And yet a rule can be written to prevent this. For me, we are in Prime Directive territory here. I am simply looking at this trade through the optics of the league rules and structure. For many leagues this trade is not ethical, legal etc. I get that and I am not arguing against any of that. But as far as this league is set up for now it is: 1. Not collusion because there is no stated review or disclosure process for the league. 2. Not tanking, because both teams made a move that both felt improved their teams. One for long term success and the other for short term success. That the results of the matchup had some league consequences none where greater than for the two teams playing and their results are what they are playing for. I don't believe in universal league rules so when judging any debate like this I will always default to the rules specific to the league. In this case they were woefully deficient in rules especially considering the buy in price. Nothing that I have said means I agree with it necessarily but I am simply being as objective as possible with the information at hand. I am not bringing any bias into the discussion. In just about any other league this would be collusion but not in this particular league by the narrowest of margins. And that is where the Prime Directive comes into play. This is their league setup and their league consequence. They will have to figure out a solution that improves their league moving forward on their own.
  16. Halle Berry was the most boss I have ever seen anyone on that show. She was a great interview and she owned every sauce. She is my Queen.
  17. Well, this league had no review process if it did we wouldn’t be on page 18 as this would be cut and dry otherwise.
  18. I’ll rewatch that episode. My favorite episode was Charlize Theron. She gave the best critiques of the sauces and I laughed out loud when she flipped off The Bomb. But I digress.
  19. Uugggh. Soooo close. They tend to mix them up a little every year so hopefully next year. 🤞🤞
  20. When there is no league requirement to divulge the conditions there are no secrets kept from the league. The league has had a hands off approach to trades so there is no secret and no league violation.
  21. The implication is he was told to lose. He could have started any number of players to win and it would have met the condition of the trade.
  22. Your objective when playing fantasy is to win a championship. If you are competing to win the league within the rules of the league then losing a game to win the league is acceptable. This has been debated here before years ago. If you want to win every week then play daily to your hearts content. If you want to require the best, optimal lineup possible then play best ball. If you want to eliminate these kinds of trades or tactics in season long fantasy then award the championship based on points and eliminate head to head entirely. There are lots of options and lots of various rules to play the game the way you want to play. Find one and then find 10 folks who agree with you and you’ve got a league.
  23. Nobody has denied that but MT was his flex not his TOP player. He was not told to start Mattison. There were certainly better options than Mattison and knowing MTs score that week there were better options than MT too. MTs season rank is 326. One can believe what they want to about him but it doesn’t make it true. What he has been this season is not what he was last season. You may want to believe MT is a must start but he has been far from that production.