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  1. Just now, Gr00vus said:

    I don't think that's desperation, I think it's just another example of how messed up his value system is. T.V. ratings are a critical indicator of what's right/good/successful to him. How he's perceived, how others are perceived by the public at large (regardless of their qualifications for judgement in a particular domain) is prominent in his determination about the worth/quality of the person in question and/or whatever it is they're "selling."

    Oh absolutely.

    But the fact that this was part of their closing defense for the President of the United States being impeached is incredibly desperate.

    "If people aren't watching on TV, the President must be innocent!"

    Cracks me up.

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  2. 2 minutes ago, ren hoek said:

    My take is it's a huge waste of time that salt of the earth folks won't care about.  They don't care about the selective application of the law against Trump to please establishment Dems and the national security establishment's vanity.  It won't put food on the table, won't change anything about systemic corruption in Washington, won't improve their lives.  It's a distraction from stuff that actually matters.  

    I didn't ask what "salt of the earth folks" care about. 

    I asked whether you thought that the witnesses are lying, or that withholding aid until a foreign country agreed to investigate a political rival isn't worthy of impeachment.

    Thoughts?

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  3. 12 minutes ago, Kal El said:

    So it sounds like Trump just added another impeachment charge to the list. I've been avoiding this metaphor, but I think he's officially digging his own proverbial grave. Literally all he has to do is say nothing at all, and he can't even do that.

    It's wild to imagine just how different this Presidency would be if Twitter didn't exist. There'd be like 85% less scandals.


  4. 11 minutes ago, John Blutarsky said:

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-release-transcript-of-diplomat-bill-taylors-testimony-to-impeachment-panel

    In one exchange between GOP Rep. Lee Zeldin and Taylor during his deposition, Taylor was asked whether he had any firsthand knowledge of Trump conditioning an investigation into the 2016 election and the Bidens on military aid.

    Taylor said he did not speak to the president, or have any direct communication with the president regarding the requests for investigations. Instead, he said he was basing much of his testimony on what former United States Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations Kurt Volker and Sondland told him.

    “What I know is what Ambassador Sondland was able to tell me about those investigations and Ambassador Volker,” Taylor said. “I don't know what was in the president's mind.”

    Pressed by Zeldin on where the condition for the aid was coming from, he referenced Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani and said, “I think it was coming from Mr. Giuliani.”

    When Zeldin asked, “But not from the president?” he replied, “I don't know.”

    Taylor, repeatedly, stated that he did not have any firsthand communication with the president or Giuliani—“only with Sondland and Volker.”

    “Ambassador Sondland squarely states that he ‘did not know, (and still does not know) when, why or by whom the aid was suspended,’" she said in a statement. “He also said he ‘presumed’ there was a link to the aid—but cannot identify any solid source for that assumption.”

    So do you think all of these people coming out and confirming the quid pro quo are lying?

    Or is this just pointing out that maybe all of this was done without Trump's knowledge?


  5. 4 minutes ago, fatguyinalittlecoat said:

    Here’s the scenario I’ve thought about.  The government is going to shut down Nov. 22 unless Trump signs a budget.  Trump says “I’m not signing a budget unless you shut down this impeachment.  Not only that, but when the government does resume, I’ll veto any bill that provides for government employees to get paid for when they’re furloughed.  So Democrats it’s up to you - you can continue this nonsense that isn’t going to get me removed anyway but that will mean thousands of government employees unemployed staring right about when the Holiday season starts.  Or you can just drop the impeachment and I’ll sign a budget.”

    I don’t think this is such an easy call for Democrats.

    I think he would get absolutely roasted for that - not allowing people to work and be paid so that he can get out of impeachment.

    Now, maybe he tries to do it as a distraction/delay tactic, but I don't think he'd openly offer the quid pro quo.

    All that said, it's Trump. So who knows.