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  1. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 ADP Best Worst # drafted Barkley 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.0 1 1 16 Guice 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 4 2 2 2 2.2 2 4 16 Chubb 4 5 3 5 3 3 5 3 2 4 5 6 3 7 6 3 4.2 2 7 16 Penny 5 6 6 4 7 9 3 6 4 3 4 4 2 3 4 5 4.7 2 9 16 Michel 10 3 4 3 5 8 4 5 7 7 3 3 6 6 3 4 5.1 3 10 16 R Jones 3 4 5 6 4 10 7 4 5 5 6 5 7 4 5 9 5.6 3 10 16 Moore 6 7 7 8 8 4 8 9 6 10 7 8 9 8 10 6 7.6 4 10 16 Freeman 11 9 10 7 6 11 10 8 8 6 8 7 10 5 7 8 8.2 5 11 16 Ridley 7 8 9 9 9 6 6 11 9 8 10 9 5 11 8 7 8.3 5 11 16 Johnson 8 10 11 10 10 12 9 7 13 12 9 10 8 9 11 12 10.1 7 13 16 Kirk 12 12 8 11 11 7 11 13 12 13 11 13 11 13 9 10 11.1 7 13 16 Sutton 9 11 13 12 12 13 12 10 10 11 12 11 12 12 12 11 11.4 9 13 16 Gallup 14 13 12 14 15 15 17 14 14 14 13 12 14 10 13 15 13.7 10 17 16 Miller 15 15 15 16 17 17 14 16 15 15 14 14 13 15 15 14 15.0 13 17 16 Washingt13 14 14 15 13 16 20 18 17 16 16 15 15 14 14 16 15.4 13 20 16 Gesicki 17 18 16 17 16 19 16 12 16 17 18 19 17 17 16 13 16.5 12 19 16 Hines 16 17 18 13 23 14 19 17 11 18 17 16 19 22 18 17 17.2 11 23 16 Ballage 18 20 20 19 14 20 13 15 18 23 15 18 18 18 20 22 18.2 13 23 16 Pettis 22 16 21 18 19 22 18 29 19 9 20 17 16 16 17 21 18.8 9 29 16 Chark 28 23 27 18 24 25 22 21 24 23 21 28 27 26 24.1 18 28 14 T Smith 30 25 23 31 20 33 21 26 21 28 24 21 19 19 28 24.6 19 33 15 Hurst 19 24 25 26 25 26 23 25 33 22 22 29 24 35 21 19 24.9 19 35 16 Mayfield25 21 26 21 31 29 24 24 34 19 25 22 22 36 23 18 25.0 18 36 16 J Adams 24 29 22 25.0 22 29 3 Rosen 21 30 19 23 21 28 15 21 24 25 27 30 30 33 25 31 25.2 15 33 16 Walton 30 35 23 27 23 20 21 25.6 20 35 7 Goedert 23 22 24 25 30 21 26 26 35 31 19 27 25 20 34 29 26.1 19 35 16 Callaway27 19 22 20 29 18 31 35 22 35 24 25 29 34 26 27 26.4 18 35 16 L Jackson 20 31 33 28 22 32 22 20 32 30 26 23 24 26.4 20 33 13 Darnold 29 29 17 27 26 35 19 29 21 36 31 24 29 23 26.8 17 36 14 Hamilton 26 31 26 34 20 27.4 20 34 5 St Brown 28 32 27 32 32 26 24 28.7 24 32 7 Wilkins 26 28 22 34 34 28 33 36 23 23 35 29.3 22 36 11 Coutee 32 29 28 29.7 28 32 3 J Allen 34 26 30.0 26 34 2 J Kelly 24 32 36 30 30 30 34 27 25 33 30.1 24 36 10 J Moore 35 32 36 20 30.8 20 36 4 J Watson 31 31.0 31 31 1 Cain 30 33 30 35 28 31.2 28 35 5 Andrews 27 35 34 26 35 30 34 31.6 26 35 7 Berrios 33 36 29 36 29 27 31.7 27 36 6 Edmonds 32 33 32 35 33.0 32 35 4 I Smith 35 36 31 30 33.0 30 36 4 J Samuels 34 34.0 34 34 1 This table is the draft results for 16 12 team PPR leagues that start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1D. The draft also included free agents. In addition to ADP I included the number of times each player was drafted and the range. I think the number of times drafted is intersting. For example for a player like Chark, his ADP is 24.1 which the end of the second round but he was not drafter at all in 2 leagues so thers is a 12.5% chance you could get him much later.
  2. 12 team PPR - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE Pick 1.12 for Ajayi and 2019 1st
  3. assuming the first isn't top 3, I like it for you.Thanks for the reply. Should be a very late 1st. My team is a very strong contender.
  4. Looking for some opinions on this trade I just made Give AP/J Randle/LaFell/ 2016 1st Get A Cooper/Gore/ Herron Thought this was a good exit price for AP and also a sell high on Randle.
  5. Wow, that is a lot to aquire Fitz. I know he's as good as it gets, but I probably wouldn't pull that kind of deal unless I was absolutely stacked at WR.I would pay that all day for Fitz. You're talking about someone who is a virtual lock to be a top 5 WR for a long time. The only way to get a player like Fitz is to overpay with roster depth. It's still a great trade.The thing is...while this is overpaying, check back in a couple of years and it will look like a steal.Can't agree that this is a great call. With Q still producing and out producing Fitz in 2012 and so far this year and without knowing who the # 1 draft pick was in 2010 this is impossible to call. 2010 was the year Dez and Demaryius came out. Suppose he got one of those 2 guys with that future #1 pick. In that case this is a win for the guy trading Fitz. Also, after your discussion on the low percentage increase on how much 1 player increases the chances of a championship I don’t see the big advantage over getting Fitz. Fitz gave you a 3.7 ppg advantage in 2010 and a 5.1 ppg advantage in 2011. In 2012 Q gave you the advantage by 1.3 ppg and so far this season Q gives an advantage of 2.4 ppg. I think the jury is clearly still out on this trade and depending who that #1 pick was, this could very easily go the other way. Also the comment about Fitz being a top 5 WR for a long time needs a little context. Since 2010 he has finished 15th, 14th, 24th and so far this season is 21s in ppg ranking. You don't need to know who the 1st rounder was to know whether it was a good trade. That's confusing outcome with process. That first might have yielded Dez or Demaryius, or Spiller or Mathews. It might have yielded Jahvid Best, Sam Bradford, Dexter McCluster, Montario Hardesty, or Jermaine Gresham. The proper way to evaluate the trade isn't to look at individual names- it's not like the other guy taking Best over Spiller at 3 or Hardesty over Demaryius at 6 would somehow make that a better trade for the guy giving up the pick- it's to look at the EV of an average first. Using standard FBGs scoring, in the 3+ years since the trade Larry Fitzgerald has outscored Anquan Boldin 488 points to 400 points (in 52 vs. 49 games). Mike Sims-Walker has produced practically no positive value (he had one season as a WR4 and then was out of the league). The EV of the third rounder was negligible. ZWK can come weigh in, but I believe he found that an average 1st rounder has an EV of 150-200 points of VBD. And that's just evaluating the trade over the last three years, saying nothing about the expected value going forward (where Fitzgerald absolutely crushes Boldin + generic 2010 1st, based on consensus dynasty rankings). I would look at it this way. The drop off from Ftiz to Boldin over the last 4 years reduces the chances for a championship by 5% - 10% (based on your discussion of what acquiring 1 player will do for a team). Is that small reduction in championship probablity worth the chance to hit the rookie lottery. Not to mention the trade value of rookie picks next year when rookie fever hits. If you can turn 1 asset into 2 or more assets with upside then it is probably worth it. The value of depth as a season progresses is severely underrated.
  6. Wow, that is a lot to aquire Fitz. I know he's as good as it gets, but I probably wouldn't pull that kind of deal unless I was absolutely stacked at WR.I would pay that all day for Fitz. You're talking about someone who is a virtual lock to be a top 5 WR for a long time. The only way to get a player like Fitz is to overpay with roster depth. It's still a great trade.The thing is...while this is overpaying, check back in a couple of years and it will look like a steal.Can't agree that this is a great call. With Q still producing and out producing Fitz in 2012 and so far this year and without knowing who the # 1 draft pick was in 2010 this is impossible to call. 2010 was the year Dez and Demaryius came out. Suppose he got one of those 2 guys with that future #1 pick. In that case this is a win for the guy trading Fitz. Also, after your discussion on the low percentage increase on how much 1 player increases the chances of a championship I don’t see the big advantage over getting Fitz. Fitz gave you a 3.7 ppg advantage in 2010 and a 5.1 ppg advantage in 2011. In 2012 Q gave you the advantage by 1.3 ppg and so far this season Q gives an advantage of 2.4 ppg. I think the jury is clearly still out on this trade and depending who that #1 pick was, this could very easily go the other way. Also the comment about Fitz being a top 5 WR for a long time needs a little context. Since 2010 he has finished 15th, 14th, 24th and so far this season is 21s in ppg ranking.