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  1. Hopefully youll have a daughter one day that attends FSU and gets exactly the same experience with an athlete. When the police dont look into it I hope you will feel the same. Pathetic. Why the need to get personal here? Did someone you know get raped or something? I've said it in other threads, I read quite a bit about this event, and have my opinion he didn't rape her. I have no problem calling an athlete a rapeist if the details cause me to form that opinion. Jeremy Stevens was on my favorite pro team, and I would cheer when he scored TD's, while always making sure to remind everyone around me he was a rapist. The difference was the details of the Jeremy Stevens case were pretty indicative of rape, and not consensual sex. Apologies. The facts certainly point to the fact FSU/TPD absolutely bungled the case. That everyone agrees to. You do know there is another girl who had to go to crisis counselling after a night with him. The reason I am adamant is because believe it or not I have knowledge of at least two other girls "involved" with him who have similar stories one of which got away from him after he stuffed his fingers in her pants. Her dad is a big money redneck and doesnt need any more money. He wants Winston to be held accountable but the family doesnt want the same to happen to their daughter as did the prior two girls. IE they either got death threats/withdrew from school or both. Winston was questioned and denied knowing her...but they did get phone records from him to her and he lied again. The school knows about it too. The father wants justice but the girls mother and family want anonymity. I cant blame them based on they way the last victim got treated. You can believe it or not...but that is one of the real reasons I cant stand this school or guy. He will lie to everyone including the school president, his coach and his own lawyer all while painting himself as a devout man of god.
  2. Hopefully youll have a daughter one day that attends FSU and gets exactly the same experience with an athlete. When the police dont look into it I hope you will feel the same. Pathetic.
  3. Ill just state facts before answering. Cornwall said he flew down to hear the claim from Patricia Carroll. "7 million and it goes away...or I leak it public. He then claims a few days later she leaked it to the press in November because she didnt get paid". Interesting fact was Jansen was Winstons only attorney in November and Cornwall was not retained until March/April. So how did Cornwall meet with her before the story broke if he wasnt even Jameis attorney at that time? BTW her attorneys have their side of the story too.....but these dates are facts! Check them out. Also do you not think about 90% of cases are settled this way? It is quite common from both plaintiff/defense attorneys to avoid trial. Do you also understand Winston does not have $7M and has no access to $7M as a student. If it were legit she would have made her civil claim AFTER he got an NFL deal not before. There would be no purpose to try and get money from a kid who had no money... What Winstons attorney is doing is letting FSU know in no uncertain terms if they find Winston guilty from their title iX investigation (cough cough) they are currently doing they will be getting sued for a lot of money. It is a smart move and the last gasp for Winston who is likely to be found guilty and expelled. Cornwall is drawing his line in the sand...thats all.
  4. no way. Too risky, character flaws are abundant.A team will fall in love with Winston and he will be a top five pick. Stealing crab legs and and yelling fhritp is not enough to stop him from being a top five pick.Oh and the whole alleged rape thing. Kids a punk and if I were a GM I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. The alleged victim had another man's semen in her panties and on her shorts and a member of FSU cleat chasers. She insinuated she was drugged but no drugs found in her system. She stated she was clubbed in the head but no physical evidence to prove that. Let me set you s"craight.Youve obviously not read the police reports...as I have. She had another mans DNA (not semen) on her clothing. So what...what does that matter anyway if she had a boyfriend. You insinuate since she had sex with someone else he is just "ENTITLED" to get his too. Her blood work was conveniently held by the law enforcement for more than 40 days (which is past what GHB would testing would be useless). Instead of the 3 days to test they sat on the blood work. Are you aware of the SANE nurses diagnosis of "forced rape" which was also erased during the TPD press conference? Why? Because SANE nurse diagnosis is virtually 100% convicted. Let me know how many investigators make a PHONE CALL to investigate a rape case...and then are told Ive got baseball practice I cant talk to you now. Do they also make PHONE CALLS to investigate murder cases. FSU/TPD and the scum bag rapist are as sleezy as they come. How many times would not arrest a person when they changed their story from I wasnt there to it was consensual AFTER the DNA test came back identifying him as not only being there but being "involved" with her. Im not even saying he is guilty at this point...but that he should have been charged. Sorry to burst your bubble of FSU BS but has FSU done the required by 90 days title IX investigation yet? No they just started because HE was uncooperative. Good luck with the FBI on that one...it worked well for Penn St. By FSU's own code of conduct he should have been IMMEDIATELY expelled from the school for pleading the 5th as a student (cough cough). You can do that in a criminal trial but it doesnt apply for title ix at a public university. He has to answer period to his own school. Which he never has. I could go on and on but lets just say he is a punk and they are dirty as they always are in Tally. Her urine was tested for over 170 drugs including ghb and all the results were negative. The sexual assault description is based on the alleged victim's statement not the findings of the examination. Her attorney and aunt is a personal injury attorney trying a criminal case,this is about as bad as Tyson using a tax attorney to defend him in his rape case. I smell a civil lawsuit.Speaking of changing their story, one day she states the suspect is 5'9-5'11 and the next day he's 6'2. You meet a guy in a bar and you don't get his name but you get in a cab with three men you don't know and go back to the suspect's apartment. Her female and male friend at the bar didn't find her behavior to be anything out of the normal. She's stated that she was blacking out but was able to text coherently throughout this time. Before the results were back, why did her attorney tell the police that the DNA on the clothing might not be from her boyfriend because the alleged victim and the female friend at the bar wore each other's clothing? The female friend denied wearing the alleged victim's clothing. Meggs, the state attorney is known to be tough on FSU athletes. He tried another FSU football player with rape and the all female jury found him innocent in 30 minutes. Really...the date on the test is obvious....37 days to test urine and blood. None of which was for GHB, the date rape drug. Why would she be confused...well lets see GHB. Additionally he has another girl with a similar story already in crisis counselling. Nice guy. She must have been a cleat chaser too. Have you ever seen a girl drugged by GHB...as someone in the medical field I have...and it fits the scenario to a "t", Absolutely NO law enforcement agency sits on blood and urine samples for 37 days. Just let that sink in....Since she has retained Kobe Bryants attorney in Denver to pursue a title ix violation Im sure youll be happy about her high dollar lawyer. Her aunt handled the case because most college kids dont have big money or big money behind them. However, apparently Winston has also retained a high dollar attorney in Atlanta who handles all the athletes and NOT PRO BONO. SO who is paying this attorney? He isnt taking it for free. Who? Winstons South Alabama parents...or boosters? Lets just get back on topic. Greg Dent...your senior receiver at FSU....forced himself on his OWN GIRLFRIEND. She claimed sexual assault...he was arrested THE NEXT DAY. No DNA test...no changing story. No SANE nurse diagnosis of forced rape...no cleat chaser BS. He was cuffed and stuffed and went for trial the next day. Why...because he wasnt the number one qb in the country. You think a 20 year booster in Detective Angulo would know who WInston was? A guy who had job applications to do security for FSU. Thats who the TPD sent over there? Why not send his parents to do the investigation. The first DA before Meggs, Cappleman, her dad played qb at FSU...nice. It is like CLetus and Boss Hogg doing the detective work. How do you explain concurrent bruises on the BOTTOM of her feet? Ive been barefoot my whole life as a kid and never bruised the BOTTOM of my feet. However kicking a big dumb rapist off me would certainly bruise my feet but other than that I have a very hard time explaining that little fact. Now on to enough evidence to charge...really...she claimed rape, went to the ER THAT NIGHT. Got a rape screen (which is not very pleasant). Her diagnosis is enough right there. She identified a freshman football player named Chris as involved. So if I look at last years roster...one freshman football player named Chris. Detective Angulo couldnt find Chris. Couldnt find him...or didnt want to find him...which is it? I think it is obvious. ON to title ix...since this involves two Nolie students the school was obligated under title ix to investigate and report within 90 days....regardless of the criminal case. So now 1 a year and a half later the AD and interim President understand they now have minorly a serial liar and majorly a person who has no inkling respect for women or authority. They have never got a statement from him even now....yet he takes a public full ride scholarship. Imagine a unquestioned potential rapist living in a dorm with your daughter. He basically tells the cops to get lost (and they do) and tells the school officials to get lost. Does this guy still exist on campus or is he expelled? He is immediately gone. No scholarship, no football...no school (as if he ever intended to get an education). Sorry...its just the facts. How about a three time Pulitzer prize winning investigative reporter from the NY Times calling the investigation laughable. A former 60 minutes producer even. And how can you possibly be stupid enough to bring a gun on campus (and of course not be arrested). How can you have a cops gun drawn because you didnt listen and put to your head...only to get up...dust yourself off and then 4 hours later shoot out several thousand dollars of windows on campus? If I had a cop stick a gun to my head I go home and call it a night...not laugh it off and continue the same lawless behavior. SO who paid for the windows in 48 hours for him and Casher? I guess theyre rich college kids huh? But since the Noles are under scrutiny now it seems Casher has gone to collections because he couldnt come up with $6oo to pay for traffic violations in 4 MONTHS. Lets see $2000 in 48 hours...but cant do $600 in 4 months now that the money train has come undone. So what happened to the FSU story of all the autograph seekers harassing the rapist in Publix...the cop asking for his autograph and he "forgot" to pay because he was in a hurry. It didnt look like what the Nole fan base said when the video came out did it. Unless he was looking at womens hygeine products for some reason he looked unaccosted, unnoticed and like a prototypical shop lifter. I could go on and on about this phony and this school whose prior title included a Sports Illustrated cover called "Tainted Title" but Im done. Good luck with the feds and that feral you have at qb. I look forward to the 30 for 30 on ESPN about him as an incarcerated serial rapist and the University getting the Sandusky like treatment from the NCAA. Its coming soon dont you worry. My God this is filled with so many inaccuracies and misguided assumptions I literally don't even know where to start. My two favorites:1) saying the police covered up the rape for him because he was "the 1 QB in the country" while he was the third-string QB for a team that finished 11th nationally during the year of the incident. 2) saying Winston's "south Alabama" parents couldn't afford an attorney, as if that makes any sense. Clearly all people from south Alabama are poor and nobody in any of those families ever made any kind of money. Also the lawyer could be working based off a future fee structure, but \_(ツ)_/¯ 1.) In response to #1....the detective that handled the case was a twenty plus year booster and had repeatedly applied to work FSU security. Youre saying his lack of investigation (which is what Willie Meggs said himself) was thorough. A phone call to investigate a rape case...really. Think about that for a second. So we go to the Cleat Chasers...Meggs himself reported this girl was not aware of who Winston was before or after...in 170 pages of report NOT ONE MENTION of "Cleat Chaser". This cleat chaser claim has been largely dismissed everywhere outside War Chant and the sad population of FSU students who still bring it up. Smear the victim when she was drugged and raped. Let me know which way you want to play the facts either he was known by some freshman GIRL as a famous football player in which case a twenty year booster certainly knew him. Or he wasnt known by Detective Angulo because he was a third string qb...which means obviously a freshman GIRL would not know him as a great athlete for the Cleat Chasers. Which one is it? When you decide let me know. 2.) Why has Casher been turned over to collections for his traffic infractions not being able to pay HUNDREDS dollars of fines in MONTHS yet he was able to come up with $2000 in TWO DAYS to pay for the windows. BTW Cornwall doesnt do contingency AT ALL. He doesnt need to. He isnt also counter suing for money NOR WOULD HE GET ANY of substance from the girl. Lastly if you dont think FSU and the TPD covered it up and looked the other way for athletes in general I will point out there was a complaint filed by the girl. Casher ADMITTED TO THE POLICE ILLEGALLY VIDEO TAPING A SEX ACT. HE EVEN SAID THE GIRL YELLED AT HIM TO QUIT AND SLAMMED THE DOOR. THIS IT IS A FELONY AT MINIMUM IN FLORIDA. Felony means off the team immediately. The charge to Casher is NON NEGOTIABLE. Yet the police just passed it over. Why? Why didnt Casher go to jail? Are you going to tell me because she ALSO consented to the illegal video taping? The reason Casher didnt go to jail was because he might just spill the beans if he was forced into the choice of wether to to tell the truth on what actually happened or go to jail. So the cops covered Jameis up by also failing to charge Casher who ABSOLUTELY and without question committed a felony. Of course FSU's honor court managed to suspend him for two games laughably for committing a felony. Read the police report its great stuff. The police filed and got warrants for the victims phone IMMEDIATELY. They dug through her phone records and found nothing. They got her friends phone records, her boy friends phone records, two other friends phone records. However did the get Winstons? Did they get Cashers? Did they get Darby's? NEVER TO THIS DAY DID THEY GET PHONE RECORDS OF THE ACCUSED! How bizarre is that? What kind of investigation gets the victims phone records but not the accused? Thats some serious cover up. You are looking for a way to place blame on the girl that filed the complaint. Plain and simple. The guy is a pile of $hit as is the administration and coaches for looking the other way. It is exactly what collegiate athletics should never be. Why not just check what a THREE TIME PULITZER prize winner wrote for the NY Times. Surely someone who was a former 60 minutes producer and three time Pultizer winner for investigative reporting has little need to dig up a BS story. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jameis-winston.html?_r=0
  5. no way. Too risky, character flaws are abundant.A team will fall in love with Winston and he will be a top five pick. Stealing crab legs and and yelling fhritp is not enough to stop him from being a top five pick.Oh and the whole alleged rape thing. Kids a punk and if I were a GM I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. The alleged victim had another man's semen in her panties and on her shorts and a member of FSU cleat chasers. She insinuated she was drugged but no drugs found in her system. She stated she was clubbed in the head but no physical evidence to prove that. Let me set you s"craight.Youve obviously not read the police reports...as I have. She had another mans DNA (not semen) on her clothing. So what...what does that matter anyway if she had a boyfriend. You insinuate since she had sex with someone else he is just "ENTITLED" to get his too. Her blood work was conveniently held by the law enforcement for more than 40 days (which is past what GHB would testing would be useless). Instead of the 3 days to test they sat on the blood work. Are you aware of the SANE nurses diagnosis of "forced rape" which was also erased during the TPD press conference? Why? Because SANE nurse diagnosis is virtually 100% convicted. Let me know how many investigators make a PHONE CALL to investigate a rape case...and then are told Ive got baseball practice I cant talk to you now. Do they also make PHONE CALLS to investigate murder cases. FSU/TPD and the scum bag rapist are as sleezy as they come. How many times would not arrest a person when they changed their story from I wasnt there to it was consensual AFTER the DNA test came back identifying him as not only being there but being "involved" with her. Im not even saying he is guilty at this point...but that he should have been charged. Sorry to burst your bubble of FSU BS but has FSU done the required by 90 days title IX investigation yet? No they just started because HE was uncooperative. Good luck with the FBI on that one...it worked well for Penn St. By FSU's own code of conduct he should have been IMMEDIATELY expelled from the school for pleading the 5th as a student (cough cough). You can do that in a criminal trial but it doesnt apply for title ix at a public university. He has to answer period to his own school. Which he never has. I could go on and on but lets just say he is a punk and they are dirty as they always are in Tally. Her urine was tested for over 170 drugs including ghb and all the results were negative. The sexual assault description is based on the alleged victim's statement not the findings of the examination. Her attorney and aunt is a personal injury attorney trying a criminal case,this is about as bad as Tyson using a tax attorney to defend him in his rape case. I smell a civil lawsuit. Speaking of changing their story, one day she states the suspect is 5'9-5'11 and the next day he's 6'2. You meet a guy in a bar and you don't get his name but you get in a cab with three men you don't know and go back to the suspect's apartment. Her female and male friend at the bar didn't find her behavior to be anything out of the normal. She's stated that she was blacking out but was able to text coherently throughout this time. Before the results were back, why did her attorney tell the police that the DNA on the clothing might not be from her boyfriend because the alleged victim and the female friend at the bar wore each other's clothing? The female friend denied wearing the alleged victim's clothing. Meggs, the state attorney is known to be tough on FSU athletes. He tried another FSU football player with rape and the all female jury found him innocent in 30 minutes. Really...the date on the test is obvious....37 days to test urine and blood. None of which was for GHB, the date rape drug. Why would she be confused...well lets see GHB. Additionally he has another girl with a similar story already in crisis counselling. Nice guy. She must have been a cleat chaser too. Have you ever seen a girl drugged by GHB...as someone in the medical field I have...and it fits the scenario to a "t", Absolutely NO law enforcement agency sits on blood and urine samples for 37 days. Just let that sink in.... Since she has retained Kobe Bryants attorney in Denver to pursue a title ix violation Im sure youll be happy about her high dollar lawyer. Her aunt handled the case because most college kids dont have big money or big money behind them. However, apparently Winston has also retained a high dollar attorney in Atlanta who handles all the athletes and NOT PRO BONO. SO who is paying this attorney? He isnt taking it for free. Who? Winstons South Alabama parents...or boosters? Lets just get back on topic. Greg Dent...your senior receiver at FSU....forced himself on his OWN GIRLFRIEND. She claimed sexual assault...he was arrested THE NEXT DAY. No DNA test...no changing story. No SANE nurse diagnosis of forced rape...no cleat chaser BS. He was cuffed and stuffed and went for trial the next day. Why...because he wasnt the number one qb in the country. You think a 20 year booster in Detective Angulo would know who WInston was? A guy who had job applications to do security for FSU. Thats who the TPD sent over there? Why not send his parents to do the investigation. The first DA before Meggs, Cappleman, her dad played qb at FSU...nice. It is like CLetus and Boss Hogg doing the detective work. How do you explain concurrent bruises on the BOTTOM of her feet? Ive been barefoot my whole life as a kid and never bruised the BOTTOM of my feet. However kicking a big dumb rapist off me would certainly bruise my feet but other than that I have a very hard time explaining that little fact. Now on to enough evidence to charge...really...she claimed rape, went to the ER THAT NIGHT. Got a rape screen (which is not very pleasant). Her diagnosis is enough right there. She identified a freshman football player named Chris as involved. So if I look at last years roster...one freshman football player named Chris. Detective Angulo couldnt find Chris. Couldnt find him...or didnt want to find him...which is it? I think it is obvious. ON to title ix...since this involves two Nolie students the school was obligated under title ix to investigate and report within 90 days....regardless of the criminal case. So now 1 a year and a half later the AD and interim President understand they now have minorly a serial liar and majorly a person who has no inkling respect for women or authority. They have never got a statement from him even now....yet he takes a public full ride scholarship. Imagine a unquestioned potential rapist living in a dorm with your daughter. He basically tells the cops to get lost (and they do) and tells the school officials to get lost. Does this guy still exist on campus or is he expelled? He is immediately gone. No scholarship, no football...no school (as if he ever intended to get an education). Sorry...its just the facts. How about a three time Pulitzer prize winning investigative reporter from the NY Times calling the investigation laughable. A former 60 minutes producer even. And how can you possibly be stupid enough to bring a gun on campus (and of course not be arrested). How can you have a cops gun drawn because you didnt listen and put to your head...only to get up...dust yourself off and then 4 hours later shoot out several thousand dollars of windows on campus? If I had a cop stick a gun to my head I go home and call it a night...not laugh it off and continue the same lawless behavior. SO who paid for the windows in 48 hours for him and Casher? I guess theyre rich college kids huh? But since the Noles are under scrutiny now it seems Casher has gone to collections because he couldnt come up with $6oo to pay for traffic violations in 4 MONTHS. Lets see $2000 in 48 hours...but cant do $600 in 4 months now that the money train has come undone. So what happened to the FSU story of all the autograph seekers harassing the rapist in Publix...the cop asking for his autograph and he "forgot" to pay because he was in a hurry. It didnt look like what the Nole fan base said when the video came out did it. Unless he was looking at womens hygeine products for some reason he looked unaccosted, unnoticed and like a prototypical shop lifter. I could go on and on about this phony and this school whose prior title included a Sports Illustrated cover called "Tainted Title" but Im done. Good luck with the feds and that feral you have at qb. I look forward to the 30 for 30 on ESPN about him as an incarcerated serial rapist and the University getting the Sandusky like treatment from the NCAA. Its coming soon dont you worry.
  6. no way. Too risky, character flaws are abundant.A team will fall in love with Winston and he will be a top five pick. Stealing crab legs and and yelling fhritp is not enough to stop him from being a top five pick.Oh and the whole alleged rape thing. Kids a punk and if I were a GM I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. The alleged victim had another man's semen in her panties and on her shorts and a member of FSU cleat chasers. She insinuated she was drugged but no drugs found in her system. She stated she was clubbed in the head but no physical evidence to prove that. Let me set you s"craight.Youve obviously not read the police reports...as I have. She had another mans DNA (not semen) on her clothing. So what...what does that matter anyway if she had a boyfriend. You insinuate since she had sex with someone else he is just "ENTITLED" to get his too. Her blood work was conveniently held by the law enforcement for more than 40 days (which is past what GHB would testing would be useless). Instead of the 3 days to test they sat on the blood work. Are you aware of the SANE nurses diagnosis of "forced rape" which was also erased during the TPD press conference? Why? Because SANE nurse diagnosis is virtually 100% convicted. Let me know how many investigators make a PHONE CALL to investigate a rape case...and then are told Ive got baseball practice I cant talk to you now. Do they also make PHONE CALLS to investigate murder cases. FSU/TPD and the scum bag rapist are as sleezy as they come. How many times would not arrest a person when they changed their story from I wasnt there to it was consensual AFTER the DNA test came back identifying him as not only being there but being "involved" with her. Im not even saying he is guilty at this point...but that he should have been charged. Sorry to burst your bubble of FSU BS but has FSU done the required by 90 days title IX investigation yet? No they just started because HE was uncooperative. Good luck with the FBI on that one...it worked well for Penn St. By FSU's own code of conduct he should have been IMMEDIATELY expelled from the school for pleading the 5th as a student (cough cough). You can do that in a criminal trial but it doesnt apply for title ix at a public university. He has to answer period to his own school. Which he never has. I could go on and on but lets just say he is a punk and they are dirty as they always are in Tally.
  7. He doesnt buy into the Browns...I cant imagine that...go figure.
  8. Some people fail to see the situation Tebow is in when he does pass. 1.) Zero rhythm when a qb passes every 9th play 2.) When he does pass it must be in a known passing situation like 3rd and 18 or more since Fox would consider 3rd and 17 to be a running situation 3.) When Fox lets them run a normal offense like end of the half or last 5 minutes of the game he racks up yardage and looks pretty damn good. I wonder how many "great" qbs would do only passing on known passing downs and with no passing rhythm whatsoever. Fox is more responsible for Tebows bad numbers than Tebow.