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Which team has the best overall offense? (1 Viewer)
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GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
WTF!Washington and no Chicago?!?!?Bastage!
I only have 2 alaises(sp?) and neither of them voted in this poll at all yet alone for Washington...feel free to get a mod in here to verify if you really care that much.Minnesota has an average o-line, a below average WR corps, an injury ravaged RB corps, and are changing to a more ball control philosophy. While I'm not as high as some here, I will grant you that Culpepper is a good QB, but he isn't enough to make that into the best offense in the league imo. Do you really think that they are the #1 offense in the entire league?
Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.If not, they should have.TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
oh, was Artose Pinner traded to the 'Skins???
Ren
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Pigskin P
Wicked Smot
Apparently, we can find 8 who believe the Redskins are, so I don't think 3 for Seattle would be much of a stretch.Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.If not, they should have.TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.
caglassc
President James Madison - Football Guru
With Seattle's schedule this year I would think they should have been included.Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.If not, they should have.TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.
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No, the poll is not "who will perform the best this year?". Therefore, schedule should not matter at all. The question is "who is the best overall offense?".With Seattle's schedule this year I would think they should have been included.Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.If not, they should have.TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.
No, thats not what I'm telling you. I am a master at making polls, so here is a free lesson:When making a poll, you don't include the choices that you think are most deserving. You include the choices that you think will garner the most votes. IMHO, Washington would get more votes than Seattle in a poll like this. Now, if we had a poll asking who had a better offense of the two, I would expect Seattle to win. However, in a poll that is only for the #1 offense, I would expect more people to vote for Washington than Seattle.
why? its your opinion whether they will get the votes or not. You really dont know whether they will or not unless you put them in there. You can assume they wont, but how would you really know unless you put them in there? Already people are wondering why Seattle isnt listed, that should give you a clue that there would have been some that would have voted for them. As for it being correct logic, that is your opinion, but i will have to disagree with it, but its your poll, so you can do what you want, i just think its funny is all.Interesting? Its the correct logic. Why list options that won't get votes? Shouldn't you just list the options the will get votes?This is some interesting logic towards making a poll.....
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This_Is_Not_VRR
Footballguy
Why on earth would you include Tampa Bay and Washingtion in this poll?And the fact that you're trying to defend your decision not include Seattle is beyond stupid.
caglassc
President James Madison - Football Guru
No, the poll is not "who will perform the best this year?". Therefore, schedule should not matter at all. The question is "who is the best overall offense?".With Seattle's schedule this year I would think they should have been included.Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.If not, they should have.TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.
Thats what i am trying to tell him.MGD Destroyer
Footballguy
Ayup, I remember the first time I got high..........I also remeber why I quit.
-OZ-
Footballguy
The scary thing is I can actually see his reasoning.No, the poll is not "who will perform the best this year?". Therefore, schedule should not matter at all. The question is "who is the best overall offense?".With Seattle's schedule this year I would think they should have been included.Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.If not, they should have.TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.
The best offense isn't neccessarily the one that scores the most points in the season, it's the one that can't be stopped from dictating the game.
DaWidowMaker
Footballguy
I think with the addition of Peerless you HAVE to add Dallas. They will throw the ball alot more than most of you think.
DaWidowMaker
Footballguy
I know most of you are basing this off last year but I'm willing to bet that the Dallas offense with the addition of Price is going to be bananas!:Bledsoe<ManningJulius=EdgeGlenn, Keyshawn, Price= Harrison, Wayne, StokelyWhitten>ClarkFlozell, Allen, Rivera>Saturday and the rest.....interested in reading the arguments regarding that...and remember this isn't 04' baby!!!
MGD Destroyer
Footballguy
fixed
MGD Destroyer
Footballguy
Are you trying to say Bledsoe is a traveshamockery?
caglassc
President James Madison - Football Guru
Really, then explain to me how he puts Washington on the list and not Seattle!!!! Oh, that is right Ramsey is a studddddddddd! And that Portis guy has just torn up the League since moving to the Redskins! I give up - I really give up!The scary thing is I can actually see his reasoning.No, the poll is not "who will perform the best this year?". Therefore, schedule should not matter at all. The question is "who is the best overall offense?".With Seattle's schedule this year I would think they should have been included.Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.If not, they should have.TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.
broncofan13000
Footballguy
The following is odd's for the highest scoring offense in the NFL for 2005/2006 from Intertops Sportsbook:
19-1 odds on St. Louis.....i'm placing my bet
broncofan13000
Footballguy
thanks, i just put down some on St.Louis & Indy. With St.Louis's schedule, i think they have a very realistic shot of leading the league, i'm tempted to put more....
SSOG
Moderator
I will not argue that Kansas City is fully capable, and perhaps even LIKELY, to finish the season with a 4000 yard passer (assuming Green stays healthy). However, Kansas City's RBs over the last 3 seasons have COMBINED for 2069 yards, 1677 yards, and 1833 yards. Only once have they broken 2000 as a unit. I doubt the TEAM breaks 2000 yards this season, let alone a single rusher. It would take a MAJOR offensive shift to accomplish the feat.San Diego's QBs combined for 3468, 3205, and 3348 yards over the last 3 seasons. Their RBs have combined for 1910, 1728, and 1831 yards over the last 3 seasons. While I don't dispute that Tomlinson is the kind of horse necessary for a 2000 yard season, it would take a major offensive shift for San Diego to finish the season with EITHER a 4000 yard passer OR a 2000 yard rusher.It isn't even the only team in the West that "could" do that.
Not even the most likely to do so.
Oakland... well, Oakland is Oakland. Oakland was dead last in the league in rushing last season, and have made no real improvements to the offensive line. I give Jordan pretty much no shot at rushing for 2000.
And now we get to Denver. They had a 4000 yard passer just last season. Denver has already produced a 2000 yard rusher once, and starting RBs in Denver average over 100 yards per start. Anderson got 1500 yards in 12 starts in 2000, which pro-rates to a 2000 yard season. Their RB rushing totals over the last 3 seasons are 2060, 2238, and 2052. All it would take is a slight increase in total offense from last season and Anderson and Plummer to stay healthy all season, and I could easily see them finish with a 4000 passer and 2000 rusher. I'm not saying it's LIKELY, I'm just saying that they're the only team in the entire NFL that I could realistically see accomplishing the feat.
KC I've already addressed. Indy's RBs combined for 1821, 1631, and 1368 yards over the last 3 seasons. I don't see them realistically producing a 2000 yard rusher. St. Louis's RBs combined for 1516, 1370, and 1236. Mike Martz is famous for abandoning the run. The Rams haven't had even a *1000 yard* rusher since 2001, forget about 2000. In fact, I see them as one of the least likely teams in the entire NFL to spawn a 2000 yard rusher.Realistically, the only teams I could see producing a 2000 yard rusher are Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Denver, New York Jets, and possibly, POSSIBLY, San Diego. And of those teams, Denver's the only one that could realistically finish with a 4000 yard passer... since they did it just last season.
broncofan13000
Footballguy
not to jump all over u, but i think seattle has a more then decent shot at producing a 4000 yard passer, and a 2000 yard rusher...Hasslebach finished last year with 3300 yards, in an offseason, and def. has the potential to hit the 4K mark....also SA hit 1700 yards, and with Seattle schedule he could very well hit 2K as well...I will not argue that Kansas City is fully capable, and perhaps even LIKELY, to finish the season with a 4000 yard passer (assuming Green stays healthy). However, Kansas City's RBs over the last 3 seasons have COMBINED for 2069 yards, 1677 yards, and 1833 yards. Only once have they broken 2000 as a unit. I doubt the TEAM breaks 2000 yards this season, let alone a single rusher. It would take a MAJOR offensive shift to accomplish the feat.San Diego's QBs combined for 3468, 3205, and 3348 yards over the last 3 seasons. Their RBs have combined for 1910, 1728, and 1831 yards over the last 3 seasons. While I don't dispute that Tomlinson is the kind of horse necessary for a 2000 yard season, it would take a major offensive shift for San Diego to finish the season with EITHER a 4000 yard passer OR a 2000 yard rusher.
Not even the most likely to do so.
Oakland... well, Oakland is Oakland. Oakland was dead last in the league in rushing last season, and have made no real improvements to the offensive line. I give Jordan pretty much no shot at rushing for 2000.
And now we get to Denver. They had a 4000 yard passer just last season. Denver has already produced a 2000 yard rusher once, and starting RBs in Denver average over 100 yards per start. Anderson got 1500 yards in 12 starts in 2000, which pro-rates to a 2000 yard season. Their RB rushing totals over the last 3 seasons are 2060, 2238, and 2052. All it would take is a slight increase in total offense from last season and Anderson and Plummer to stay healthy all season, and I could easily see them finish with a 4000 passer and 2000 rusher. I'm not saying it's LIKELY, I'm just saying that they're the only team in the entire NFL that I could realistically see accomplishing the feat.
KC I've already addressed. Indy's RBs combined for 1821, 1631, and 1368 yards over the last 3 seasons. I don't see them realistically producing a 2000 yard rusher. St. Louis's RBs combined for 1516, 1370, and 1236. Mike Martz is famous for abandoning the run. The Rams haven't had even a *1000 yard* rusher since 2001, forget about 2000. In fact, I see them as one of the least likely teams in the entire NFL to spawn a 2000 yard rusher.Realistically, the only teams I could see producing a 2000 yard rusher are Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Denver, New York Jets, and possibly, POSSIBLY, San Diego. And of those teams, Denver's the only one that could realistically finish with a 4000 yard passer... since they did it just last season.
but i like denver doing it
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