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2 hours ago, Bruce Dickinson said:

There were two deals approved by the city.  One developer (not Disney) is tearing down two value hotels within walking distance of DLR and building luxury ones in their places.  Disney will somehow stuff a 700-room resort between the Disneyland Hotel site, Downtown Disney, and Disneyland.  It's like how they built the Grand Californian between DCA and Downtown Disney.  Looking at the map, I'm not exactly sure how they will pull it off, but they made Grand Californian and Paradise Pier work.

Disney and the other developer bundled their proposals together to the Anaheim city council and had them voted on as one big luxury hotel development package.

I just can't understand why Disney is allowing anybody to buy that land. 

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We are leaving for Disneyland!!!!!!! We have three day par hopper passes, wish us well.

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Ate at ESPN zone in downtown Disney. Walked around people watching. Tomorrow we hit California Adventure. 

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On July 14, 2016 at 0:30 PM, glvsav37 said:

wow...pretty big update to the Disney App coming.

adds navigation capabilities so you can get directions to a particular attraction as well as outside gong around the property for all the modes of transport—car, bus, monorail...etc.

also testing bus wait times

WDW knows they have a big property and want to give you every reason to stay on it every second of your visit to Orlando.  (This is why the gas prices at Hess on WDW property are competitive: if you gouge, you're giving that car an excuse to go off-property and spend time and money somewhere else in Orlando)  

By adding navigation to the Disney App, users aren't going to other apps that might show part of the world that exists outside of WDW.  I've also found that some navigation apps take unconventional routes through the WDW property that disagree with the road signs.  

On our last trip to WDW, I remember seeing cast members with tablets testing an early version of the bus waiting time software.  Seemed like it had a lot more internal value than for guests, but I could see knowing the next bus arrival time with some precision helping assuage less patient people in your group.  What would also help is being able to reasonably guess how many bus loads of people are ahead of you at the larger depots, or how much space is available in a partially-full approaching bus.

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Just a couple thoughts...

1 - Disneyland cannot compare to Disneyworld.  Once you've been to the world, the land is lame in comparison. 

2 - I stay off Disney sites whenever I go, to get better rooms and pay way less and yet be just as close to the parks. Then I just drive to the Caribbean Beach Resort, say I'm there to eat at Old Port and Royale and take their busing into all the parks. Works like a charm every time. 

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I got up early this morning for a run before everyone else got up. The feral cat tales in Disneyland are for real. I ran through downtown Disney and saw quite a few of them. Was a nice run checking out all the activity down there before the parks own. California Adventure today with dinner at Goofys Kitchen. 

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I forgot to mention that Disney confiscated my kubaton key chain. I tried to talk them into letting me keep it to no avail. I was told I could bring it back to the hotel or surrender it. I didn't feel like making the trek back so I gave it up. Security said they throw all that stuff away but I am thinking they all split it up. 

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26 minutes ago, Chappy said:

Just a couple thoughts...

1 - Disneyland cannot compare to Disneyworld.  Once you've been to the world, the land is lame in comparison. 

2 - I stay off Disney sites whenever I go, to get better rooms and pay way less and yet be just as close to the parks. Then I just drive to the Caribbean Beach Resort, say I'm there to eat at Old Port and Royale and take their busing into all the parks. Works like a charm every time. 

Maybe it's just because it's different for us living in Florida, but we quite enjoyed DL, except for the insane way they corral people into the park. 

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2 hours ago, Chappy said:

Just a couple thoughts...

1 - Disneyland cannot compare to Disneyworld.  Once you've been to the world, the land is lame in comparison. 

2 - I stay off Disney sites whenever I go, to get better rooms and pay way less and yet be just as close to the parks. Then I just drive to the Caribbean Beach Resort, say I'm there to eat at Old Port and Royale and take their busing into all the parks. Works like a charm every time. 

1 - I've been to DLR twice since my last visit to WDW, and had an ear-to-ear smile the whole time both visits.  Hyperspace Mountain and Radiator Springs Racers are two my favorite Disney attractions, and neither of them are in Orlando.  I like not having to use a bus system to get to the parks at all because you can walk to both parks' front gates from any DLR hotel, including many not owned by Disney along Harbor Blvd.  I like flying in to SNA, not needing a tram or people-mover to get to baggage claim, and having a 30 minutes (tops) cab ride to my hotel.  I miss not having the restaurants of Epcot World Showcase and the WDW resorts, but when the weather is 75 degrees with 10% humidity in late June it's easier to recharge at a corndog cart or a skewer or two from Bengal Barbecue.  If also argue that if you have preschool age kids, it's much easier to manage the days at DLR, with more kid-friendly rides in DL than MK, less walking, and no buses or taxis to have to load/unload strollers at least twice a day.

The grander experience is WDW, no doubt.  But grander doesn't always make the alternative lame.

 

2 - I won't deny there are more economical options off-property in Orlando, but to say you are "just as close to the parks" is speaking from a low level of knowledge.  The trick of driving on to a resort and parking there to access parks is being filtered out by MagicBands.  Also, if you're driving in from off-property, IMO it's as fast or faster to drive directly to Epcot/DHS/AK than driving on property, stopping at a resort, talking your way past the guard, then waiting for the bus.  And exiting those three parks is MUCH faster with your car than waiting for the bus, riding the bus, then waking to your car to drive off.

For MK the TTC bottleneck probably makes the buses faster than driving to the MK parking lot, but if you want to avoid the TTC you're better off taking your way onto the Contemporary or Polynesian and walking/boating over than waiting for a bus at Caribbean Beach.  

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World of Color was amazing. After a day of California  Adventure yesterday we will concentrate on Disneyland today. I feel like I am putting on some serious pounds here. I destroyed Goofys kitchen last night. Eating like a pig. :bag:

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21 minutes ago, prosopis said:

World of Color was amazing. After a day of California  Adventure yesterday we will concentrate on Disneyland today. I feel like I am putting on some serious pounds here. I destroyed Goofys kitchen last night. Eating like a pig. :bag:

Tell yourself you are evening it out by all the walking you are doing!! Even if it isn't true, just keep telling yourself that! Have fun!! ;)

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I heard a radio commercial advertising Disney Springs.  Is it finished yet, or still halfway under construction?

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Best way to uber away from the MK?  Take the boat over to the TC and get picked up from there?

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8 minutes ago, The Ref said:

Best way to uber away from the MK?  Take the boat over to the TC and get picked up from there?

Excellent question.  

Consensus answer is Contemporary Resort.  Walk out of MK, make a hard left, walk past the bus depot and across a street over to the Contemporary valet/taxi stand area.  

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5 hours ago, prosopis said:

World of Color was amazing. After a day of California  Adventure yesterday we will concentrate on Disneyland today. I feel like I am putting on some serious pounds here. I destroyed Goofys kitchen last night. Eating like a pig. :bag:

So glad you had great seats for World Of Color.  That's a big favorite of my family, especially my wife.  And I dig it quite a bit, too: love all the effects and how they utilize the pier behind the water jets to add more depth to the show.

Hey, Goofy's Kitchen is all-you-can-eat.  They made the rules, you're just playing by them.

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58 minutes ago, The Ref said:

Best way to uber away from the MK?  Take the boat over to the TC and get picked up from there?

walk to contemporary and grab it from there.

when you exit the park, got to the left and stay to the left side of the bus depot. Follow the path under the monorail beam to the next intersection and traffic light. Cross the street and you are at the Contemporary and Bay Lake Tower. Overall, a 3-5 minute walk.

Taking either ferry or monorail to the TTC will be at least 1/2 hour-45 min depending on when you leave.   

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On 7/13/2016 at 7:21 AM, AAABatteries said:

I've been going back and forth on taking the wife for a long weekend - kids can do without Xmas this year, right?

Sorry for quoting myself but I think we are going to pull the trigger on an early November trip to try and hit Food and Wine and the Christmas decorations.  Seems like a great time of year to go and we've never seen the Xmas stuff.  Will also be our first trip without the kids.  It will be weird - we've been going down there for 13 years and always had at least one kid (and as many as 11 one trip). 

So - couple of questions:

- How much time would you set aside if you really wanted to spend a good amount of time touring the hotels and different Xmas decorations outside the parks?  I was thinking 2 days.  I realize how big the overall resort is and that we couldn't possible see everything in those 1 or 2 days but if we did 2 days would we feel like we wasted some of the trip if we didn't have park tickets for those days?  Or, on the flip side, is there so much that we'd waste the cost of the extra days by not even going to the parks?

- Are there any can't miss Xmas restaurant experiences/meals that you would recommend?

- Do you think I can sample every F&W offering (food and drink)?  How much would that cost me?  How quickly would my wife divorce me?

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Anyone experience the Aulani yet?  We (me, wife and DD11, DS8 and DD5) will be there in early Aug, and then on to Maui.  I've read plenty of info on the disboards, but I'd like some input/info from FBGs.  TIA

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41 minutes ago, AAABatteries said:

Sorry for quoting myself but I think we are going to pull the trigger on an early November trip to try and hit Food and Wine and the Christmas decorations.  Seems like a great time of year to go and we've never seen the Xmas stuff.  Will also be our first trip without the kids.  It will be weird - we've been going down there for 13 years and always had at least one kid (and as many as 11 one trip). 

So - couple of questions:

- How much time would you set aside if you really wanted to spend a good amount of time touring the hotels and different Xmas decorations outside the parks?  I was thinking 2 days.  I realize how big the overall resort is and that we couldn't possible see everything in those 1 or 2 days but if we did 2 days would we feel like we wasted some of the trip if we didn't have park tickets for those days?  Or, on the flip side, is there so much that we'd waste the cost of the extra days by not even going to the parks?

- Are there any can't miss Xmas restaurant experiences/meals that you would recommend?

- Do you think I can sample every F&W offering (food and drink)?  How much would that cost me?  How quickly would my wife divorce me?

I did a post on this a while back, I'll see if I can find it. 

IMO, you don't need 2 days. Not sure what "a good amount of time" is to you, but most of the heavy decorating takes place in the lobby areas. I put a plan together that really only included the deluxe resorts and the best way to go from resort to resort. I don't know what other moderates or value do, but most of the more famous displays are at the deluxe resorts. 

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On June 26, 2016 at 8:31 AM, glvsav37 said:

Here is how I would suggest doing a Christmas Decoration Resort tour from the Wilderness Lodge

Take the resort launch to the Contemporary and begin your tour there. That is an original WDW resort and one of the icons of the property with the monorail running right through it and its huge A-frame concourse. Most everything is on the 4th floor there. Then take the resort monorail to the Polly. Jump off there. I'm not sure how this is decorated b/c they just chanced the lobby and is not as big as before, but you'll see decorations with a tropical flair.

Then hop back  on the monorail (or walk over) to the Grand Floridian. This is one of the best Christmas lobbies you will find. It is so well done and has a huge Gingerbread house and Christmas tree right in the middle. A must see.

From there, I would take a taxi or Uber over to the Boardwalk. (Unfortunately, you cant go resort > resort on the Disney buses, just resort to parks). You can req a taxi right from the bell desk at the resort (or use the Uber app) and they are always there within 5 minutes, and pretty cheap.

The Boardwalk is one of my favorite resorts for its details. The lobby isnt as grand as the others, but it is very quaint and comfortable.If I could transport that lobby directly into my house, I would. What the lobby lacks, the outside makes up for. Spend a little time strolling around the boardwalk and dip into all the little shops and maybe grab some ice cream there. Walk the boardwalk toward the ESPN club and then over the bridge to the Yacht and Beach. I've never been to these for the holiday's but I cant think that they would be anything less then the others.  I also dont know much about the Swan and Dolphin resorts which are right there too, so I cant tell you to add them to your tour.

If you still have time, you can consider taking another taxi to Animal Kingdom Lodge (Jambo House). It has a lobby similar the the Wildness Lodge in structure and will be done up with an African touch. Plus, you can spend some time animal watching on the savannas (sadly they won't be dressed for Christmas, so no holiday turtle neck sweaters on the giraffes).

Or, you can hit Disney Springs which is all very new and will be very decorated. However, that place is huge now, so be prepared to spend a good amount of time there...and money.
 

Also, on your tour, there will be great places to eat so you may want to consider grabbing breakfast or lunch at one of the resorts while you are there. IMO a late breakfast at 1900 Park Fare @ the Grand Flo or lunch at either Cape May @ Yacht and Beach or Big river Grill and Brewery @ the boardwalk.

 

 

@AAABatteries   here it is...the OP was staying at wilderness lodge, so that where I started them

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33 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

Anyone experience the Aulani yet?  We (me, wife and DD11, DS8 and DD5) will be there in early Aug, and then on to Maui.  I've read plenty of info on the disboards, but I'd like some input/info from FBGs.  TIA

My wife and I stopped by there briefly a couple years ago when we were in HI for a cruise without kids. :pickle: We had recently joined DVC and were curious. We also sent the kids pictures of Mickey and Minnie to make them think we had hit Disneyland as well. (Child torture can be fun! ;) )

It is beautiful and not far from Honolulu/Pearl Harbor, etc. If they don't have a tour from the resort, just rent a car for a day or two and visit all those wonderful areas.

We just walked around for a couple minutes, but the place was spectacular. In general most Disney Resorts (especially the upper end ones) are great.

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1 hour ago, Bob Loblaw said:

Anyone experience the Aulani yet?  We (me, wife and DD11, DS8 and DD5) will be there in early Aug, and then on to Maui.  I've read plenty of info on the disboards, but I'd like some input/info from FBGs.  TIA

the guys who own Disboards have a few podcasts. One is called "Dreams Unlimited Travel Show" and they just did a few episodes on Aulani

I've never been, but we are planning it for our 20th anniversary which is only a few years away.

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We have Aulani on tap for the next few years as well.  If we went now the kids (6 and 4) wouldn't know the difference in that beach or the beach we usually go to in Gulf Shores, AL. 

I don't know enough about it, but it looks wanna be all inclusive style resort....but its not all inclusive.  You're still buying drinks and meals. 

They should have a meal plan.  haha.

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8 minutes ago, AAABatteries said:

Awesome - thanks!!

you know the property well enough. honestly, for as great as the resorts are, the parks are equally if not more impressive. 

I'm sure the mods ands value do great displays, but the proximity of the deluxes to each other lend themselves to 'resort browsing'

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1 hour ago, glvsav37 said:

and @AAABatteries I'm jealous...I can't wait for a trip sans kids...but that won't be for a long while. 

Yeah - almost feel guilty not taking them....almost. ;)

it should be interesting - we've been so many times and I always plan the trip and pay and play tour guide for us or other family members - it will be kind of weird it being just us two.  Really excited though to take my time going around F&W without kids and my wife is excited to see all the Xmas stuff.

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I wonder what kind of meetings Disney is having about Pokémon Go?  They are probably brain storming about creating their own app that people can play in their parks.

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Re: Christmas

 

Last year was the last year for the Ozbourne Lights @ Hollywood Studios, right?

 

Sucks they're gone, they were probably the best Christmas decoration in the parks.

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12 hours ago, Quez said:

I wonder what kind of meetings Disney is having about Pokémon Go?  They are probably brain storming about creating their own app that people can play in their parks.

Should just partner with Pokémon on some exclusive pocket monsters based upon Disney's IP and only available in Disney parks.

 

But, they're probably underestimating it and wrote it off as a fad that will be gone in a month.

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1 hour ago, (HULK) said:

Re: Christmas

 

Last year was the last year for the Ozbourne Lights @ Hollywood Studios, right?

 

Sucks they're gone, they were probably the best Christmas decoration in the parks.

Yea it's gone. 

We've been to DHS like 3 times since Christmas. Each time my wife has said "I can't believe they're getting rid of the lights."

:ptts:

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2 hours ago, Capella said:

Yea it's gone. 

We've been to DHS like 3 times since Christmas. Each time my wife has said "I can't believe they're getting rid of the lights."

:ptts:

Happy I got to see them as many times as I did.  I flash back to a Saturday night early in TOAL I.  Still early in the Xmas season so it's not too crowded yet.  We're under the lights and all these families who seem to have just checked in that afternoon are kicking off their Disney Christmas Vacation under the Osborne Lights.  Group dances are breaking out as the PhotoPass lines pause for "show" songs (easily the largest Cupid Shuffle I've participated in), people are trading cameras/phones to take full family shots of each other... it was like the fantasy of what the WDW TV commercials say the Parks are like actually happened.   

As awesome as the Lights were, they occupied a space that only provided value 3-5 hours a day for 2 months of the year.  I'm happy they closed the Streets Of America to make it part of Star Wars Land.  I will miss the Lights, though.  

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3 hours ago, (HULK) said:

Should just partner with Pokémon on some exclusive pocket monsters based upon Disney's IP and only available in Disney parks.

 

But, they're probably underestimating it and wrote it off as a fad that will be gone in a month.

I am skeptical that the brand behind Disney Infinity would either partner with Pokemon, or underestimate the interest in Pokemon Go.  

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5 minutes ago, Bruce Dickinson said:
4 hours ago, (HULK) said:

Should just partner with Pokémon on some exclusive pocket monsters based upon Disney's IP and only available in Disney parks.

 

But, they're probably underestimating it and wrote it off as a fad that will be gone in a month.

I am skeptical that the brand behind Disney Infinity would either partner with Pokemon, or underestimate the interest in Pokemon Go.  

Disney is in the process of shutting down Infinity. Don't know how that would affect this, though.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Ected said:

Disney is in the process of shutting down Infinity. Don't know how that would affect this, though.

My point was there's a lot of evidence of Disney building/licensing products to compete with breakout hits, and very little evidence to support a claim that Disney would underestimate any fad that breaks out within families.  I should have just asked HULK how he arrived at his statements instead of inviting a discussion about a video game. 

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Ected said:

Disney is in the process of shutting down Infinity. Don't know how that would affect this, though.

My point was there's a lot of evidence of Disney building/licensing products to compete with breakout hits, and very little evidence to support a claim that Disney would underestimate any fad that breaks out within families.  I should have just asked HULK how he arrived at his statements instead of inviting a discussion about a video game. 

Gotcha. I thought you were going with the 'this is too similar to Infinity for Disney to work with' idea, and I was saying, 'if Infinity is dying, why not try' idea.

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is Pokemon related in anyway to Nintendo? (I don't know) 

Reason I ask is that I believe Nintendo just signed with Universal to develop Nintendo IP entertainment in its parks. 

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54 minutes ago, Bruce Dickinson said:

Happy I got to see them as many times as I did.  I flash back to a Saturday night early in TOAL I.  Still early in the Xmas season so it's not too crowded yet.  We're under the lights and all these families who seem to have just checked in that afternoon are kicking off their Disney Christmas Vacation under the Osborne Lights.  Group dances are breaking out as the PhotoPass lines pause for "show" songs (easily the largest Cupid Shuffle I've participated in), people are trading cameras/phones to take full family shots of each other... it was like the fantasy of what the WDW TV commercials say the Parks are like actually happened.   

As awesome as the Lights were, they occupied a space that only provided value 3-5 hours a day for 2 months of the year.  I'm happy they closed the Streets Of America to make it part of Star Wars Land.  I will miss the Lights, though.  

Yes I agree, especially about how it was the only thing like the commercials. Very cool experience. Bummed it's gone. 

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OK take this as nothing more than adding to the rumor, but....

chatter has swirled around Guardians of the Galaxy replacing Ellen's Energy Adventure in Epcot. While that is not 100% confirmed, the stronger rumor is that SOMETHING is happening at that pavilion.

Apparently yesterday, height balloons were flying right at tat location. If you don't know, Disney uses height balloons before they plan any construction so that they can visualize the true height of a structure and what can be seen from other parts of the resort.  

So the chatter in part seems true enough that something is afoot there. People are speculating that it may close as early as december of this year. IDK...I have not heard anything strong about that yet. 

I'll keep you posted if anything pops.

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26 minutes ago, glvsav37 said:

is Pokemon related in anyway to Nintendo? (I don't know) 

Reason I ask is that I believe Nintendo just signed with Universal to develop Nintendo IP entertainment in its parks. 

Nintendo is a part owner of Pokemon and one of the founding partners.

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58 minutes ago, Bruce Dickinson said:

My point was there's a lot of evidence of Disney building/licensing products to compete with breakout hits, and very little evidence to support a claim that Disney would underestimate any fad that breaks out within families.  I should have just asked HULK how he arrived at his statements instead of inviting a discussion about a video game. 

I was just speculating.  Easier and quicker to work with Pokémon than to create their own VR thing that is new and original.

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3 minutes ago, Bruce Dickinson said:

Nintendo is a part owner of Pokemon and one of the founding partners.

so I guess that rules out a MickeymonGO

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24 minutes ago, glvsav37 said:

OK take this as nothing more than adding to the rumor, but....

chatter has swirled around Guardians of the Galaxy replacing Ellen's Energy Adventure in Epcot. While that is not 100% confirmed, the stronger rumor is that SOMETHING is happening at that pavilion.

Apparently yesterday, height balloons were flying right at tat location. If you don't know, Disney uses height balloons before they plan any construction so that they can visualize the true height of a structure and what can be seen from other parts of the resort.  

So the chatter in part seems true enough that something is afoot there. People are speculating that it may close as early as december of this year. IDK...I have not heard anything strong about that yet. 

I'll keep you posted if anything pops.

That's a cool building badly in need of a new attraction.  And with Ellen DeGeneres now one of the leading faces of the Warner Bros Studios, probably best to phase her out of Epcot.

On my last visit to DCA, we spotted balloons over Studio 17 and 23.  Rumor is they are testing out routes for a new Marvel-themed rollercoaster.  Would be a great add to that corner of the park, and would balance out walking traffic a bit.

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2 hours ago, Bruce Dickinson said:

Nintendo is a part owner of Pokemon and one of the founding partners.

Yep.  Nintendo stock has doubled since the release of Pokemon Go

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18 hours ago, Bruce Dickinson said:

That's a cool building badly in need of a new attraction.  And with Ellen DeGeneres now one of the leading faces of the Warner Bros Studios, probably best to phase her out of Epcot.

On my last visit to DCA, we spotted balloons over Studio 17 and 23.  Rumor is they are testing out routes for a new Marvel-themed rollercoaster.  Would be a great add to that corner of the park, and would balance out walking traffic a bit.

Isn't there some thing where Universal has the park rights to Marvel characters East of the Mississippi and Marvel itself has them to the West (meaning Disney as they now own Marvel)?

 

Wonder when that expires?  They could really screw over Universal Orlando if they don't renew it.

 

Anyways, not sure if they can have a Guardians ride in Epcot for this reason.  @ DCA, sure, they can.

 

ETA: Looked into it.  Universal's rights to use Marvel characters in theme parks are in perpetuity.  So, Disney can't use them unless Universal lets them.  I wouldn't plan on a Guardian's ride @ EPCOT imo

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54 minutes ago, (HULK) said:

Isn't there some thing where Universal has the park rights to Marvel characters East of the Mississippi and Marvel itself has them to the West (meaning Disney as they now own Marvel)?

 

Wonder when that expires?  They could really screw over Universal Orlando if they don't renew it.

 

Anyways, not sure if they can have a Guardians ride in Epcot for this reason.  @ DCA, sure, they can.

 

ETA: Looked into it.  Universal's rights to use Marvel characters in theme parks are in perpetuity.  So, Disney can't use them unless Universal lets them.  I wouldn't plan on a Guardian's ride @ EPCOT imo

Thought there was talk of 'newer' marvel characters being 'Disneys' as far as parks are concerned; and that was part of the reason why the Guardians movie was made in the first place.

Article about GOTG taking over Tower at Disneyland.

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/04/rumors-confirmed-guardians-of-the-galaxy-to-replace-tower-of-terror-captain-america-launch-coaster-coming/

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