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***OFFICIAL*** FFA Heavy Music Thread - No banal, anodyne "Dad Rock" BS here..

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Soundgarden

They started out as a metal band, but became non-metal with "Down on the Upside", which, not coincidentally, signaled the end of their career.

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AC/DC

Def Leppard

Motley Crue

Yes, across the board, but they're all borderline. The hair bands are all metal, but a different subgenre than the Slayers of the world. AC/DC is really just a very loud rock band, but their subject matter and attitude pushes them into the metal category.

See. That's where you lost me.

AC/DC, I understand. If Leppard is metal, Zeppelin is metal. You can't tell me Whole Lotta Love isn't metal and Photograph is. I'm just not buying it. Same thing with the Crue.

Zeppelin may be harder hitting than Leppard or the Crue, but that doesn't mean they're metal. The latter two bands were both the lamest kind of metal, but they're still easy to classify, while Zeppelin played all different kinds of music and had a great many decidely non-metal characteristics.

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AC/DC

Def Leppard

Motley Crue

Yes, across the board, but they're all borderline. The hair bands are all metal, but a different subgenre than the Slayers of the world. AC/DC is really just a very loud rock band, but their subject matter and attitude pushes them into the metal category.

Interesting. I would say no, no, yes.

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To sum this up, your saying Winger is metal, but Blue Oyster Cult is not??

Blue Oyster Cult--The Metal Years.

Great album, pick it up. You'll understand...

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AC/DC

Def Leppard

Motley Crue

Yes, across the board, but they're all borderline. The hair bands are all metal, but a different subgenre than the Slayers of the world. AC/DC is really just a very loud rock band, but their subject matter and attitude pushes them into the metal category.

Interesting. I would say no, no, yes.

AC/DC and Def Leppard are borderline.

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Lacuna Coil

The Gathering

Theater of Tragedy

Nightwish

Yes to Lacuna Coil - I am really unfamliar with the rest.

Agree on the first three, but Nightwish is a yes.

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Mr. Big

Unfortunately, yes.

I'm the one who wants to be with you

Deep inside I hope you feel it too

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Blue Oyster Cult

No.

And there goes your credibility.

:no: Evilgrin oozes credibility on this subject. There's no one I'd trust more.

:(

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To sum this up, your saying Winger is metal, but Blue Oyster Cult is not??

Blue Oyster Cult--The Metal Years.

Great album, pick it up. You'll understand...

I've heard it a million times. I understand perfectly. BOC is a rock band. Winger was a cheese-metal band. BOC is a thousand times better, but it doesn't make them metal.

Metal is a genre of music, not a badge of honor.

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AC/DC

Def Leppard

Motley Crue

Yes, across the board, but they're all borderline. The hair bands are all metal, but a different subgenre than the Slayers of the world. AC/DC is really just a very loud rock band, but their subject matter and attitude pushes them into the metal category.

Interesting. I would say no, no, yes.

AC/DC and Def Leppard are borderline.

If Mr. Big is a "yes" there is no "borderline" about AC/DC...

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Blue Oyster Cult

No.

And there goes your credibility.

BOC is not metal, sorry.

The music industry disagrees with you.

BOC = first american heavy metal band.

Definitions can evolve.

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Godsmack

NIN

Yes.

NIN - no, with the exception of the "Broken" EP and a few tunes on "Downward Spiral" - they're kind of on the fringe. Ministry is also like this, but I would say they have enough metal in them to be a yes. Same with Rammstein and KMFDM.

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Blue Oyster Cult

No.

And there goes your credibility.

:no: Evilgrin oozes credibility on this subject. There's no one I'd trust more.

:(

Sorry Clayton, I respect your opinion on the subject, but I've been around here long enough to respect Evilgrin's more. Every other subject, you're the clear winner. :D

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Mr. Big

Unfortunately, yes.

I'm the one who wants to be with you

Deep inside I hope you feel it too

:lmao:

So GAY.

Still, all those bands of the 80s are metal - from Ratt to Dokken to even Damn Yankees. As gay as they were, they were still hair metal.

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Blue Oyster Cult

No.

And there goes your credibility.

:no: Evilgrin oozes credibility on this subject. There's no one I'd trust more.

:(

Don't worry. We all know who the real metal authority is around here, GB. Let's hear it for Cameron! :headbang:

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Prodigy

Queens of the Stone Age

No.

Yes. But Kyuss was real metal, whereas QOTSA is very borderline.

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I know that Raffi was metal, I just don't know what kind of metal. Please advise. TIA

Norwegian Black Metal.

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I know that Raffi was metal, I just don't know what kind of metal. Please advise. TIA

Norwegian Black Metal.

That's it! Thanks.

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Blue Oyster Cult

No.

And there goes your credibility.

:no: Evilgrin oozes credibility on this subject. There's no one I'd trust more.

:(

Sorry Clayton, I respect your opinion on the subject, but I've been around here long enough to respect Evilgrin's more.

:kicksrock:

Every other subject, you're the clear winner. :D

:thumbup:

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Blue Oyster Cult

No.

And there goes your credibility.

:no: Evilgrin oozes credibility on this subject. There's no one I'd trust more.

:(

Don't worry. We all know who the real metal authority is around here, GB. Let's hear it for Cameron! :headbang:

:lmao:

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Godsmack

NIN

Yes.

NIN - no, with the exception of the "Broken" EP and a few tunes on "Downward Spiral" - they're kind of on the fringe. Ministry is also like this, but I would say they have enough metal in them to be a yes. Same with Rammstein and KMFDM.

Impressive.

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Can you start to classify which genre of "metal" each band falls into...TIA

No.

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Sex Pistols.

Sometimes, punk and metal are pretty close...

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Metal is a genre of music, not a badge of honor.

You're making what I think is a valuable distinction:

a) metal bands, and

b) bands who have metal songs in their repetoire

...

So here, you're addressing the acts that fall within (a).

If you were interested in addressing the (b) bands, this thread could venture far and wide -- Neil Young, Foreigner, Rush, Queen, Heart -- and heck, even Prince -- have done metal. They just aren't metal.

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Blue Oyster Cult

No, I don't have any Blue Oyster Cult. Where were you last week?

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