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I tried to commit suicide thursday

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

You know how many people without a gambling problem look back at their late teens and early twenties and say the exact same thing? My buddy pissed away a 100k+ inheritance and what does he have to show for it? A year of not working and living it up, all he's got that's tangible is a couch and a few gourmet pots and pans. My other buddy owed 15k in credit cards alone all from gas, alcohol, and cigarettes. The day he realized that he cut up his credit cards and started working to pay them off, but he was dissapointed in himself having spent that much on something and he had nothing to show for it.

My mother-in-law, like you, is addicted to gambling. She embezelled over 300k from her employer and pissed it away gambling online. She also stole my wife's identity and maxed out those credit cards for more gambling money. She lived well below her means because every spare penny was spent gambling. She is in her late 50's and has no degree, because she embezelled her lifelong experience in accounting means nothing because no one will ever trust her in that field again. She's been ordered to repay the 300+k in restitution so what little she makes will be partially garnished. She's old enough that this has pretty much ruined her. She spent 6 years living like a pauper and stealing to support her gambling addication, a year in jail, and the rest of her life will be spent living in even lower quality conditions with no hope of ever paying what she owes. That, hamster, is a life I can see someone looking at and saying, "what is there left worth living for?" Your situation is easily correctable.

I guess what I'm saying here is, for a gambling addiction, you've caught yourself VERY early and despite how bad it seems to you it's very easy to clear up and get yourself on the right path. Your debt isn't even that bad compared to other people your age that use credit cards and piss it away on other stuff. Is it going to take some work to clear up? Yeah, but if you get yourself on the right track you'll have this all cleared up in no time at all. Get your depression taken care of, go work and become part of the rat race for a little bit, make things right financially and then do like Mr. Ham and start your own company.

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

You know how many people without a gambling problem look back at their late teens and early twenties and say the exact same thing? My buddy pissed away a 100k+ inheritance and what does he have to show for it? A year of not working and living it up, all he's got that's tangible is a couch and a few gourmet pots and pans. My other buddy owed 15k in credit cards alone all from gas, alcohol, and cigarettes. The day he realized that he cut up his credit cards and started working to pay them off, but he was dissapointed in himself having spent that much on something and he had nothing to show for it.

My mother-in-law, like you, is addicted to gambling. She embezelled over 300k from her employer and pissed it away gambling online. She also stole my wife's identity and maxed out those credit cards for more gambling money. She lived well below her means because every spare penny was spent gambling. She is in her late 50's and has no degree, because she embezelled her lifelong experience in accounting means nothing because no one will ever trust her in that field again. She's been ordered to repay the 300+k in restitution so what little she makes will be partially garnished. She's old enough that this has pretty much ruined her. She spent 6 years living like a pauper and stealing to support her gambling addication, a year in jail, and the rest of her life will be spent living in even lower quality conditions with no hope of ever paying what she owes. That, hamster, is a life I can see someone looking at and saying, "what is there left worth living for?" Your situation is easily correctable.

I guess what I'm saying here is, for a gambling addiction, you've caught yourself VERY early and despite how bad it seems to you it's very easy to clear up and get yourself on the right path. Your debt isn't even that bad compared to other people your age that use credit cards and piss it away on other stuff. Is it going to take some work to clear up? Yeah, but if you get yourself on the right track you'll have this all cleared up in no time at all. Get your depression taken care of, go work and become part of the rat race for a little bit, make things right financially and then do like Mr. Ham and start your own company.

Wow. I'm surprised your MIL wasn't cured sooner by your tough love approach.

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Some of you may remember my thread a few years ago about my gambling problem. At that time it was only about $2,000 which was very managable. Well, a few years later and that is now $12,000. I owe my mom $12,000 for lawyer fees from when I was 18-19 (21 now) because a friend and I started breaking into unlocked cars. I owe my dad $5000 for my 4Runner still. $30 grand basically, which isn't a whole lot. But I have a felony and make 8 bucks an hour, so my chance for 'good' employment isn't there right now. I can't get an oil field job because my legal stuff cost me my license until November.

My family has a long history of depression on my moms side. My aunt tried to kill

herself with pills a few years back when her husband of 20+ years said he didn't want to be with her anymore.

The girlfriend of 13 months said that if I went to blackhawk that she would leave, but the next day she said she would be with me unless I did something to ruin our future. I took that to mean she changed her mind because I wasn't using any of my own money. Well on the way back down on Memorial Day she asked what I was doing, I told her I went to Blackhawk and had a horrible time. Later that night she sent me a picture of a shirt that said "Trust Me I'm Legal" and a picture of her in really short lace skirt she just bought. I knew something was up because she NEVER will wear a skirt. I had to buy her one just so I could live out a sex fantasy I have/had. That is the only time I have ever seen that skirt.

Tuesday night my mom gave me $700 to pay bills that would be late. I couldn't even stop for aday. Wednesday morning put in 160 before work, got that to $500. Lost it all. Put in another $225, got that to $1,700 in about an hour. Lost it all. Put in another $200, got that to $900, lost it all. Went to the bank and did a cash advance for $380, and lost $340 of that, $40 is still in my wallet because I needed gas. I was playing blackjack at sportsbook.com. I have probably had over $700,000 in and out of my hands in the past year just playing blackjack.

I called her several times and sent her many loving text messages over the next 3 days. I never hear anything from her. Thursday I sent one that siad something along the lines of, 'well, you choice is clear to me. ill stop writing you now, ill always love you" A few minutes later I get back "kyle. You should already know that it is over between us. Im sorry kyle but i slept with someone else last night."

I became an instant water fountain at work. My boss let me leave because I was useless at that point. I went home, typed up a suicide note, got a whole bunch of various pain killers, got my cat, sent out a few good byes to people, and then around 5pm took about 150 pills. My manager called 23 times of the next hour. I never answered. About 620pm my doorbell rings and it's the cops. With my legal past, all my dad heard was "took about 150" and "somebody from work" so he assumed I was getting arrested again.

Within a few minutes there are 5 cop cars, and ambulance and a firetruck outside our house. I get loaded in the ambulance, then my parents ask if they can take me. Somebody calls my doctor and he gives the okay.

I get to the ER and get an IV and have to give several statements over and over because apparently nobody writes things down in a hospital. Over the next 18 or so hours I get my blood drawn 17 times, 4 of those because the nurse missed. I have to drink 3 cups of liquid charcoal. Friday around 1pm I get transfered by a non-emergency ambulance to a mental health faculty where I am to be held for 72 hours on an M1 hold. They put you in a room, which was basically detox (I was the only non drunk there most of the night) for observation. I told their therapist I was worried about losing my job so they let me out early saturday morning.

So now I have an apointment to get on a different anti depressant. I had tried prozac and fluxotine prior but they did nothing for me. I have to get a therapist or psychologist now. The sad part is that out of 6 people I told that I was killing myself, only one believed me or tried to do anything about it. I am supposed to be thankful I guess, but I honestly don't know if I am.

man that sucks. You obviously know you NEED professional help right now. Gambling addictions are horrible things. Good luck!

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Wow. I'm surprised your MIL wasn't cured sooner by your tough love approach.

:confused: Why the hostility? My MIL did that all on her own and we found out one day when she sat us down and said, "There's a warrant out for my arrest and I'm turning myself in on Monday." I'm just trying to let Hamster know that his situation really isn't that bad. If you take offense to that, report the post to a mod or something.

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Those who are serious about suicide don't call people, write notes/ text people before they do it, they just do it.

Get help. It's obvious you still care about them or you wouldn't have written anything at all.

Great post. Those who tell people that they are going to kill themselves are really reaching out for help. Get help as there are plenty of people that can help you. Best of luck.

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FWIW Hamster, my wife's best friend has over 30K in credit card debt, S. So where 30k to a 21 year old might seem like a ton of money, it is in fact manageable.

First and foremost you need to get help for the gambling, but secondly, go seek some financial advice...there might be something out there for you that you're not aware of to help you out.

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Wow. I'm surprised your MIL wasn't cured sooner by your tough love approach.

:confused: Why the hostility? My MIL did that all on her own and we found out one day when she sat us down and said, "There's a warrant out for my arrest and I'm turning myself in on Monday." I'm just trying to let Hamster know that his situation really isn't that bad. If you take offense to that, report the post to a mod or something.

Yeah, I was shuked myself. I reread your post trying to figure out how pantagrapher deduced that you were using a tough love approach.

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Whatever your problems are, they could be worse. Life is tough, take responsibility for your actions, GET PROFESSIONAL HELP, work on controlling your impulses and just grow up a little. Good luck. :thumbup:

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Wow. I'm surprised your MIL wasn't cured sooner by your tough love approach.

:confused: Why the hostility? My MIL did that all on her own and we found out one day when she sat us down and said, "There's a warrant out for my arrest and I'm turning myself in on Monday." I'm just trying to let Hamster know that his situation really isn't that bad. If you take offense to that, report the post to a mod or something.

Yeah, I was shuked myself. I reread your post trying to figure out how pantagrapher deduced that you were using a tough love approach.

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Enlisting is a bad idea. If we weren't at war and gambling was his only problem, maybe. But I can't imagine boot camp is a good place to cure your depression. He's already living in a world of ####, after all.

But why is he depressed?

Because he's in debt and his girl friend broke up with him.

Why is he in debt? Because he gambles.

Why did his girlfriend break up with him? Because he gambles.

So we'll just tell him to join GA and see a shrink and stop gambling and voila, he'll stop. I see that happening... :no:

he needs to be forced away from his routine life. otherwise, he gets bored and wagers out of control. these are the actions that are causing his problems. You think he can stop on his own, I don't. I think he needs somebody to babysit him until the addiction is not so strong. Call it gambling detox.

You've got the causation backwards.

He gambles like he does because he's depressed.

He's incapable of a healthy relationship because he's depressed.

Misfortune doesn't create depression; depression magnifies misfortune. To be upset about gambling losses is rational. To be suicidal about gambling losses is irrational. He won't understand his gambling until he understands and addresses his depression.

On the flipside, he can quit gambling and it won't do anything to help his depression.

If he works on his depression, he has a much better chance of controlling his gambling.

I didn't realize you had to be depressed to be a compulsive gambler.

Poor logic there.

How do you know he is clinically depressed?

What we do know is that he has a nasty gambling addiction that has caused a great deal of pain in his life and created problems he thought were too cumbersome to overcome. These are the facts he gave us. We don't know why he gambles recklessly, we just know he does and as a result, he's created mountains of problems. He has to stop gambling. I don't really care how he does it...you think couch trips will get it done, I think he needs to be babysat. Whatever it is, he's gotta quit that first. Apply a tunicate to the wound, then try to fix the problem.

My family has a long history of depression on my moms side. My aunt tried to kill

herself with pills a few years back when her husband of 20+ years said he didn't want to be with her anymore.

Serious question here, but is depression really hereditary?

Yes. many mental illnesses are. Bi-Polar disorder, schizophrenia, deepression right off the top of my head are all genetic.

This is partly true. Schizophrenia isn't all genetic. 1% of population has schizophrenia, while having a first-degree relative with the disease only increases your odds to about 10-15%. Genetics is a factor for sure, but a lot of it has to do with environment and other things. Depression is similar as I would believe bipolar is too. Predisposition or increased likelihood is nothing to scoff at though...it's like having a loaded gun.

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:no: The chemical imbalances causing depression are scientifically proven. Yes, life circumstances can trigger or heighten the depression, but in the clinically depressed (or mentally ill -- someone had a good post saying that things like the problem gambling and such sounds an awful lot like bi-polar II) the ability to go on with life in a normal fashion when things fall apart around you simply isn't there.

But those things have to fall apart first, right? And wouldn't, by definition, the cause of those things falling apart is something independent of the mental illness because that person (like my dad) was seemingly just fine prior to that?

Perhaps another question to be asked concerning my query is whether a person with genetic mental problems can get through his life without the illness ever surfacing. If so, I think that would tend to support both mine and GM's assertions that the person, acting as his reasonable being, caused the downward spiral himself (absent the mental disease).

I posted last year that I had depression. What you've asked (perfectly valid question BTW) is what is hardest for someone who doesn't have depression to understand. There is no "cause" that is tangible to you or anyone else including the person suffering from it. The problem is self-defeating. While external factors contribute to it, sometimes overwhelmingly, it's always there.

I bottomed out about 3.5 years ago, and that was 1+ year into a great marriage, right after we'd bought a house for less than we'd budgeted, gotten our own dog for the first time, and I had a job opportunity pop up that represented a major step forward in my career. There were not only not any identifiable causes to be down, but there were plenty of reasons to be ecstatic.

In short, there are times when, for no reason, your ability to motivate yourself is simply not there. Unfortunately, when that starts to happen, the fact that you're not meeting all of your social/professional/etc. obligations leads to further stress and depression, and you can spiral out of control. I battled with myself for 20 years over being "lazy" and "undisciplined" before I finally realized that this problem was not of my own making. I now treat it with medications which take the "spikes" out of the moods, and enable me to function more consistently.

But I also know that I can't use the problem as an excuse for my failure to work hard. At the end of the day I'll always have to evaluate whether a bad day is caused more by depression, or because I simply could have handled things better.

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My suggestions to you are as follows:

1. Drop what you're doing right now and join the army or marines. You aren't capable of taking care of yourself and you lack discipline. The military will force you to grow up, will keep you away from the Casinos (for the most part) and will give you a purpose.

Yes, I'm sure being in the middle of a war will do wonders for his mental health.

He'll make friends, take a new look at life, learn to work hard, make him forget about his problems (temporarly but still). I don't see how it wouldn't help.

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Looks like my post good pruned, as I quoted a post that was inappropriate, so I wanted to repost what I said earlier.

Good luck and I wish you the best. Some professional help, support and perspective and you'll be alright. :thumbup:

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Just ran across this. Wondering how the guy is doing.

I can't beleive people are bagging on him for being on here to discuss his problems. This is the first place I would come if I had a real problem. I dont know any of you from Adam, so even if I get a bunch of smartass answers, I know I can vent and maybe even get some good advice from people I will never have to look in the face. This is a great place for that.

I think it takes something like this for people to really get themselves back on track. I dont think that people who take pills really want to kill themselves, they either want attention or want people to see that they have a real problem and they are at the end of their ropes. My step sister has tried to kill herself on more than one occasion, (she lost her husband when she was only 28.) If she was really serious about killing herself, she probably would have realized the pills didnt work the first two times.

Hampster, make sure that you completely forget about this crappy girlfriend. The chic is banging another guy a couple days after she breaks it off with you? she wasn't really into you anyway. Dont lose sleep over a girl like that, better that she is gone now than later when you are really attached.

Money problems are no big deal. Sure, it may seem like it but there are so many things you can do to get yourself out of debt, it may take a while but there is always light at the end of the tunnel. Most people are in debt, a lot of which are in debt way further than $30K.

I think you need to find a place to get some help that you are comfortable with. If you are religious, a church is a great place to start. If you aren't, there are so many gamblers anonymous groups to get involved with, trust me, I live in Vegas.

Don't stop coming here. Do not listen to the posters that told you to do so. This is a nice outlet to vent and take your mind off of other things. If anything it keeps you off of other sites......

Good luck to you and hang in there. Your life is just begining and you have so much ahead of you, don't let money and girlfriends drown you.

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Hey Hamster. It's Tuesday. Please report in if you're still with us.

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

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gotten our own dog for the first time

Sorry, but there's just something funny about that phrase. Like, did you rent before?

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selling weed.

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whoa.

sorry, gb.

i, like, totally spaced your PM.

meet me at Fro's Cafe. 3 o'clock. :thumbup:

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

similar situation here. I was 23 years old, owed $21,000+ in credit cards alone along with a house note and a truck note, working nights in a warehouse pulling orders. Got tired of all of it, buckled down and paid off all the credit cards over the next 4 or so years (had to basically live off ramen noodles for a lot of that time).

Now I'm 33, make good money (I may never be a "cabin owner", but oh well) and have almost no debt outside of 10 yrs. left on my mortgage, and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

similar situation here. I was 23 years old, owed $21,000+ in credit cards alone along with a house note and a truck note, working nights in a warehouse pulling orders. Got tired of all of it, buckled down and paid off all the credit cards over the next 4 or so years (had to basically live off ramen noodles for a lot of that time).

Now I'm 33, make good money (I may never be a "cabin owner", but oh well) and have almost no debt outside of 10 yrs. left on my mortgage, and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

:thumbup:

sucks when you're slogging through it but it's nice when you finally "win"

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

similar situation here. I was 23 years old, owed $21,000+ in credit cards alone along with a house note and a truck note, working nights in a warehouse pulling orders. Got tired of all of it, buckled down and paid off all the credit cards over the next 4 or so years (had to basically live off ramen noodles for a lot of that time).

Now I'm 33, make good money (I may never be a "cabin owner", but oh well) and have almost no debt outside of 10 yrs. left on my mortgage, and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

:thumbup:

sucks when you're slogging through it but it's nice when you finally "win"

:yes:

I ####ing hate Ramen noodles now. :hot:

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

When does she come back? Can you get out of it?

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I ####ing hate Ramen noodles now. :hot:

i heard that. lived off them for awhile myself. :thumbdown:

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

When does she come back? Can you get out of it?

are you hitting on me?

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

When does she come back? Can you get out of it?

are you hitting on me?

Please. You'll give it up like a catholic prom date. No need for active pursuit there.

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

When does she come back? Can you get out of it?

are you hitting on me?

Please. You'll give it up like a catholic prom date. No need for active pursuit there.

:excited:

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

When does she come back? Can you get out of it?

are you hitting on me?

Please. You'll give it up like a catholic prom date. No need for active pursuit there.

:excited:

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tease. :hot:

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

When does she come back? Can you get out of it?

are you hitting on me?

Please. You'll give it up like a catholic prom date. No need for active pursuit there.

:excited:

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tease. :hot:

Maybe he accidentally sent it to "Fuller.".

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

When does she come back? Can you get out of it?

are you hitting on me?

Please. You'll give it up like a catholic prom date. No need for active pursuit there.

:excited:

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tease. :hot:

Maybe he accidentally sent it to "Fuller.".

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

i'm 30 now with a good job.

I'm not sure male prostitution counts.

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

i'm 30 now with a good job.

I'm not sure male prostitution counts.

Hey, it's water!!! I haven't seen water here in a while. How's things, H2O?

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

When does she come back? Can you get out of it?

are you hitting on me?

Please. You'll give it up like a catholic prom date. No need for active pursuit there.

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tease. :hot:

someone already stuffed your "inbox"

i'm not that kinda guy :hot:

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

hell when i was 21, i had an 11 year old car.. worth less than $500 and about $10k in debt... had just dropped out of college and was unemployed, selling weed.

i'm 30 now with a good job. no debt aseide from a 5 year old car that's about 3 months away from being paid off.

21 is reaaaaaaaaly young to be worrying about not being able to climb out of debt. put the brakes on it now and getting back to solvency won't be a huge problem.. it's going to take time but it'll be satisfying to see the progress you're making.

and a few years on my wife's '05 Escape.

When does she come back? Can you get out of it?

are you hitting on me?

Please. You'll give it up like a catholic prom date. No need for active pursuit there.

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tease. :hot:

i'm not that kinda guy :hot:

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So seriously, anybody hear/see this guy?

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Totino's = cardboard with Cheese.

Looks like he's doing okay.

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Keep fighting the good but tough fight!

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

i'm 30 now with a good job.

I'm not sure male prostitution counts.

Hey, it's water!!! I haven't seen water here in a while. How's things, H2O?

LOL. 'Sup, Bobby. Things have been trying. Got assigned as lead counsel on a new mass torts case ("good" trying); and have been having seperation discussions with the wife ("bad" trying). Thanks for the shout-out. :thumbup:

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I just can't stand that I owe that much and the one thing I have to show for it is a 16 year old car that is worth 2 grand.

i'm 30 now with a good job.

I'm not sure male prostitution counts.

:shrug:

pays the bills

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how have things been?

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how have things been?

He's totally been ignoring this thread. I'm starting to agree with some of the posters that I initially disagreed with in this thread.

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update?

:(

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