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Putin’s Culture of Fear and Death Boris Nemtsov threw his big body, big voice and big heart into the uphill battle to keep democracy alive in Russia.Russia's opposition supporters carry a banner reading These bullets in each of us during a march in memory of murdered Kremlin critic Boris Nemtsov in central Moscow on March 1, 2015.

Boris Nemtsov, my longtime friend and colleague in the Russian opposition, was murdered in the middle of Moscow on Friday night. Four bullets in the back ended his life in sight of the Kremlin, where he once worked as Boris Yeltsin ’s deputy prime minister. Photos showed a cleaning crew scrubbing his blood off the pavement within hours of the murder, so it is not difficult to imagine the quality of the investigation to come.

Vladimir Putin actually started, and ended, the inquiry while Boris’s body was still warm by calling the murder a “provocation,” the term of art for suggesting that the Russian president’s enemies are murdering one another to bring shame upon the shameless. He then brazenly sent his condolences to Boris’s mother, who had often warned her fearless son that his actions could get him killed in Putin’s Russia.

Hours after Boris’s death, news reports said that police were raiding his home and confiscating papers and computers. President Putin’s enemies are often victims and his victims are always suspects.

Boris was a passionate critic of Mr. Putin’s war in Ukraine and was finishing a report on the presence of Russian soldiers in the ravaged Donbas region, a matter that the Kremlin has spared no effort to cover up. But the question “Did Putin give the order?” rings as hollow today as when journalist Anna Politkovskaya was gunned down in 2006, the same year that Putin critic Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned in London—or when a Malaysia Airlines passenger jet was shot down over eastern Ukraine last year.

Certainly the arrogance of the assassins is a notable clue. They could have chosen many dark and out-of-the-way places along the same route Boris took but instead sent a message by selecting a prominent and heavily surveilled spot. Opposition leaders are always watched closely by Russia’s security services before public rallies—Boris had been planning a protest against the Ukraine war on Sunday—so how could these trained bloodhounds not notice that someone else was following him? Regardless of whether President Putin gave the order, there is no doubt that he is directly responsible for creating the conditions in which these outrages occur with such terrible frequency.

The early themes in Mr. Putin’s reign—restoring the national pride and structure that were lost with the fall of the Soviet Union—have been replaced with a toxic mix of nationalism, belligerence and hatred. By 2014 the increasingly depleted opposition movement, long treated with contempt and ridicule, had been rebranded in the Kremlin-dominated media as dangerous fifth columnists, or “national traitors,” in the vile language lifted directly from Nazi propaganda.

Mr. Putin openly shifted his support to the most repressive, reactionary and bloodthirsty elements in the regime. Among them are chief prosecutor Alexander Bastrykin, who last week declared that the Russian constitution was “standing in the way of protecting the state’s interests.” In this environment, blood becomes the coin of the realm, the way to show loyalty to the regime. This is what President Putin has wrought to keep his grip on power, a culture of death and fear that spans all 11 Russian time zones and is now being exported to eastern Ukraine.

Boris Nemtsov was a tireless fighter and one of the most skilled critics of the Putin government, a role that was by no means his only possible destiny. A successful mayor in Nizhny-Novgorod and a capable cabinet member and parliamentarian, he could have led a comfortable life in government as a token liberal voice of reform. But Boris was unqualified to work for the Putin regime. He had principles, you see, and could not bear to watch our country slide back into the totalitarian depths.

And so Boris launched his big body, big voice and big heart into the uphill battle to keep democracy alive in Russia. We worked together after he was kicked out of Parliament in 2004, and by 2007 we were close allies in the opposition movement. He was devoted to documenting the crimes and corruption of Mr. Putin and his cronies, hoping that they would one day face a justice that seemed further away all the time.

Boris and I began to quarrel after Mr. Putin returned as president in 2012. To me, the Putin return signaled the end of any realistic hopes for a peaceful political path to regime change. But Boris was always optimistic. He would tell me I was too rash, that “you have to live a long time to see change in Russia.” Now he will never see it.

We cannot know exactly what horror will come next, only that there will be another and another while President Putin remains in power. The only way his rule will end is if the Russian people and the elites understand that they have no future as long as he is there. Right now, no matter how they really feel about Mr. Putin and their lives, they see him as invincible and unmovable. They see him getting his way in Ukraine, taking territory and waging war. They see him talking tough and making deals with Angela Merkel and François Hollande. They see his enemies dead in the streets of Moscow.

Statements of condemnation and concern over the Nemtsov murder quickly poured forth from the same Western leaders who have done so much to appease the Kremlin in recent days, weeks and years. If these leaders truly wish to honor my fearless friend, they should declare their support for the many tens of thousands of marchers who turned Sunday’s protest rally into a funeral procession. Western leaders should declare in the strongest terms that Russia will be treated like the criminal rogue regime it is for as long as Mr. Putin is in power. Call off the sham negotiations. Sell weapons to Ukraine that will put an unbearable political price on Mr. Putin’s aggression. Tell Russian oligarchs, every one of them, that there is no place their money will be safe in the West as long as they serve the Putin regime.

The response so far hasn’t been encouraging. Given President Putin’s sordid record, calls from Western leaders for him to “administer justice” could almost be considered sarcastic. Western media inexplicably continue to air, unchallenged, statements by his cadre of propagandists. Many reports credulously cite Mr. Putin’s high approval rating at home, as if such a concept has any meaning in a police state. Meanwhile, the Russian media churn out preposterous and insulting conspiracy theories about the death of a man they had called an enemy of the state.

We may never know who killed Boris Nemtsov, but we do know that the sooner President Putin is gone, the better the chances are that the chaos and violence Boris feared can be avoided.

Mr. Kasparov is the chairman of the New York-based Human Rights Foundation. His book on Vladimir Putin, “Winter Is Coming,” will be published by Public Affairs in the fall.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/garry-kasparov-putins-culture-of-fear-and-death-1425249677

 
Russia Detains Two Suspects in Nemtsov Killing Detentions come just over a week after opposition leader was killedMOSCOW—Russia’s security services detained two people from the country’s Caucasus region suspected of killing opposition politician Boris Nemtsov.

Mr. Nemtsov, a fixture on Russia’s political scene for nearly three decades and a vocal critic of President Vladimir Putin, was gunned down on a bridge next to the Kremlin on Feb. 27.

Alexander Bortnikov, head of Russia’s Federal Security Service, known as the FSB, said Anzor Gubashev and Zaur Dadayev were detained on Saturday. Speaking on the state TV Channel One, Mr. Bortnikov said Mr. Putin was informed about the detention of the two suspects. He gave no further detail.

Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for the investigative committee said Saturday the detained were suspected of both the organization and killing of Mr. Nemtsov.

The two men have not yet been charged, but their status of detained could be changed to arrested as soon as Sunday, the second day of Russia’s three-day weekend, state TASS news agency reported on Saturday.

Another state-run news agency, RIA, citing a representative of the security council of Russia’s federal subject of Ingushetia in North Caucasus, reported late on Saturday that two more men were detained on suspicion of being involved in the murder. Albert Barakhoyev from the security council told RIA that one of the detained suspects, Mr. Dadayev, served as an interior ministry member in Chechnya, North Caucasus republic in southern Russia.

Mr. Markin last week said the killing could be a political provocation in which Mr. Nemtsov was used as a “sacrificial victim,” killed to discredit the government. Shortly after the murder, Mr. Putin pledged to take all necessary steps to punish those responsible.

Russian investigators have said they were probing motives that included possible links to the conflict in Ukraine, Islamic extremism or a plan to destabilize the country.

Mr. Nemtsov had received threats after he voiced critical views of the January killing of cartoonists at Charlie Hebdo, the French satirical magazine targeted for its cartoons on Islam.


The assassination of Mr. Nemtsov, 55 years old, in central Moscow became the highest-profile killing of a political figure in Russia in more than a decade, an incident reminiscent of the violent years following the Soviet Union’s collapse in 1991. Officials have repeatedly said it bore the hallmarks of a contract killing.

Mr. Nemtsov was a rare figure in the Russian opposition: though an outspoken critic of the government, he retained a measure of respect in the Kremlin, which he used to frequent as deputy prime minister.

Mr. Nemtsov had been a fixture in Russian politics for more than two decades, reaching the pinnacle of power in the 1990s on the wave of democratic and economic overhauls. He was gradually pushed into opposition under Mr. Putin, whom Mr. Nemtsov harshly criticized in recent years.

Tens of thousands of people marched in Moscow last Sunday past the spot where Mr. Nemtsov was killed and thousands, including government officials and business tycoons, attended his funeral.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-detains-two-suspects-in-nemtsov-killing-1425723382

 
Sounds like a pretty predictable direction for Putin who made his career on the Moscow apartment bombings, this sounds like a repeat with far less logical connection for the scapegoats-to-be. The show trial should be right out of the 1930s.

Russian authorities arrest 4 in killing of opposition leader Boris Nemtsov(CNN)Russian authorities arrested four men Saturday in connection with the shooting death of a leading opposition figure, Russian state media reported.
Boris Nemtsov, one of President Vladimir Putin's most outspoken critics, was shot in the back on a Moscow bridge as he walked with his girlfriend near the Kremlin in late February.

Surveillance video showed someone darting from the sidewalk and into a nearby car right after Nemtsov collapsed.

Putin has been informed of the arrests in connection with Nemtsov's death, Russian media said, citing Federal Security Service director Alexander Bortnikov.

Two of the suspects are Anzor Gubashev and Zaur Dadayev, Bortnikov said in a televised statement.

Bortnikov said those detained are from the southern region of the North Caucasus, which for years has been a hotbed of unrest and rebellion against Moscow.

The slain opposition leader's daughter, Zhanna Nemtsova, told CNN she is "not surprised both of them [are] of Caucasus origin. It was predictable."

Nemtsova said the only things she knew about the arrests came from media reports, as authorities did not contact her immediately.

Later Saturday, a southern Russian law enforcement official told state news agency RIA Novosti that two more men were arrested.

The two men were arrested in the southern republic of Ingushetia, said Albert Barahoev, the secretary of Ingushetia Security Council, according to RIA Novosti.

The suspects in the second arrest were not named, but one of them was driving with Dadayev, and the other man is Gubashev's younger brother, Barahoev said. All four suspects are ethnic Chechens, according to Barahoev.

Opposition blames PutinAfter Nemtsov's shooting Putin blamed extremists and protesters who he said were trying to stir internal strife in Russia.

Many opposition sympathizers and people close to Nemtsov have pointed the finger at Putin and the Russian government he leads. They note that Nemtsov -- the deputy prime minister under former President Boris Yeltsin -- is the latest in a list of Putin's opponents who have been killed or imprisoned.

Nemtsov had also been arrested several times for speaking against the government.

In her first TV interview since her father's death, Nemtsova told CNN Putin shares "political responsibility" for her father's assassination. She spoke from Germany.

"I don't believe in the official investigation," she said on Saturday.

Jailed or killedOther opposition figures previously jailed or killed include Anna Politkovskaya, a journalist critical of Russia's war in Chechnya. She was gunned down at the entrance to her Moscow apartment in 2006.

There was also business magnate Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who backed an opposition party and accused Putin of corruption. Khodorkovsky landed in jail after a conviction on tax fraud, which he said was a ploy to take away his oil company. The government rejected the claim. Putin pardoned him in 2013.

Former Russian security agent Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned by a lethal dose of radioactive polonium, his tea spiked in a London hotel during a meeting with two former Russian security servicemen in 2006.

He had blamed the agency for orchestrating a series of apartment bombings in Russia in 1999 that left hundreds dead and led to Russia's invasion of Chechnya later that year.

The Kremlin has staunchly denied accusations that it or its agents are targeting political opponents or had anything to do with the deaths.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/07/europe/russia-nemtsov-murder-arrest/index.html

 
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Ukrainian secret service protecting murdered Russian opposition chief's model girlfriend after she receives death threats
  • Anna Duritskaya, 23, told police she had received anonymous threats
  • She was with Boris Nemtsov, 55, when he was gunned down in Moscow
  • Now back in Ukraine, she had complained she was being held in Russia
  • Nemtsov family reveals they have had no contact from murder detectives
By Will Stewart In Moscow and Damien Gayle for MailOnline and Associated Press and Reuters


Ukraine has put the girlfriend of slain Russian opposition politician Boris Nemtsov under state protection after she received death threats.Model Anna Duritskaya, 23, is now under the guard of SBU secret services and the police.

Kiev also said today that she would not return to Moscow over the probe into the death of the Vladimir Putin foe.

'We will not let her go back to Russia,' said Anton Geraschenko, an aide to the Interior Minister.

'If Russian investigators need to talk to her, they will have to come to Ukraine.'

The announcement came as another of Russia's leading opposition figures vowed that he and his supporters will not be intimidated by as he walked free from a 15-day spell in jail.

Alexei Navalny, who had been convicted of handing out leaflets calling for an opposition rally, said he would continue his staunch criticism of Vladimir Putin's government despite the Mr Nemtsov's murder seven days ago.

Emerging unshaven from a Moscow detention centre this morning, Mr Navalny said: 'This act of terror hasn't achieved its goal, it will not frighten me or my comrades. We will not reduce our efforts, we will not step back.'

A key figure in Boris Yeltsin's 1990s government, Mr Nemtsov was the most prominent figure in Russia's liberal opposition to be killed during President Vladimir Putin's 15-year rule.

The 55-year-old was shot four times in the back by a gunman in a passing car as he walked hand-in-hand with Miss Duritskaya on a bridge across the Moskva River on Friday night, in the shadow of central Moscow's St Basil Cathedral.

The Ukrainian woman - physically unhurt in the attack - revealed the death threats to police in Kiev, who said today they were providing her with protection.

'On March 5, Anna Duritskaya, who is a witness in the case in the murder of Russian opposition politician Boris Nemtsov, turned to the Ukrainian police in the Kiev Region with a statement on a threat to her life from unidentified individuals,' said the prosecutor-general's office in Ukraine.

The statement offered no information on who might have issued the threats, according to the Associated Press.


The model was staying with her parents since returning to her home country. A relative in Ukraine said she was 'in a bad mental state'.

In the aftermath of Mr Nemtsov's assassination, Miss Duritskaya was repeatedly questioned by Russian investigators, and she complained that she was held under armed guard and unable to leave the country.

However, she returned to Ukraine last week.


'This act of terror will not frighten me or my comrades': Opposition leader Alexei Navalny said he would continue his staunch criticism of Vladimir Putin's government despite the Mr Nemtsov's murder
As thousands gathered in Moscow to pay their last respects at Mr Nemtsov's funeral, Putin insisted the Russian law enforcement authorities would do 'everything' to solve the crime.

However, Nemtsov's eldest child, Zhanna Nemtsova, 30, revealed that investigators had not spoken to a single member of his close family six days after the murder.

They believe his 'cruel and barefaced murder' was because of his political opposition to the Kremlin.

Yesterday a top Nato official suggested Putin was responsible for Mr Nemtsov's death as he accused the Russian president of silencing dissent at home while seeking to turn Ukraine into a failed state.

'We've seen that the victims are not just in eastern Ukraine, with the brutal murder of Boris Nemtsov last Friday,' NATO Deputy Secretary General Alexander Vershbow said.

Speaking to members of parliament from EU countries at a conference in Riga, Mr Vershbow went on: 'While we don't know who pulled the trigger, we do know that Boris Nemtsov was a powerful voice for democracy and against Russia's involvement in Ukraine ... (and) was among those vilified as "traitors" and "fifth columnists" in Russia's official propaganda.'


Mr Nemtsov, a father of four, first gained an international profile after being spotted by former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher as a future leader of Russia.

He was Russia's deputy prime minister from 1997 to 1998 during Boris Yeltsin's presidency, but found himself on the fringes of the country's politics after a tanking economy forced Yeltsin's resignation.

The politician founded a number of opposition movements after leaving the Russian parliament in 2003 and he had served as the co-chair of the opposition Republican Party of Russia - People's Freedom Party since 2012.

It has been reported that Nemtsov angered Putin's government two years ago when he charged that billions of dollars had been stolen from funds designated for the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, his hometown.

In January 2011, he was sentenced to 15 days in jail after being arrested at a New Year's Eve protest rally for 'disobedience towards police'.


Pro-West in his ideology, Mr Nemtsov had told U.S. diplomats he wanted to take Russia on a pro-EU, pro-Nato course, including eventual membership of both organisations, according to a diplomatic cable released by Wikileaks.

'The key, Nemtsov argued, was to present this strategy as the only viable choice for Russia,' wrote a U.S. embassy attaché in the note dated February 2006.

But, the diplomat continued, 'Nemtsov also realizes that his association with the Yeltsin era will probably limit support for any initiative with his name on it, and he is counting on the next generation of politicians to carry the liberal banner.'

Putin has claimed Mr Nemtsov's murder - yards from the Kremlin - was a 'provocation'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982499/Ukraine-puts-murdered-Russian-opposition-chief-s-glamorous-model-girlfriend-secret-service-protection-death-threats.html#ixzz3Tluf3qcX

 
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Foreign Policy on the increasingly bizarre and fantasist nationalist propaganda coming out of Russia .... including BEARS WITH LASER EYES!:

Laser Bears and Occupants: These Are the Masterpieces of Delusional Russian PropagandaReally good propaganda is like a fever dream: delirious, paranoid, and marked by leaps of logic that at first blush might withstand scrutiny. With Moscow and the West engaged in a fierce standoff over the future geopolitical alignment of Ukraine, one Russian propaganda outfit has in recent months distinguished itself as a master of this art form, proudly defending Russian occupation of foreign lands and casting Russian President Vladimir Putin as a shirtless savior riding to the rescue astride a bear shooting laser beams from its eyes.

If that sounds absurd, it’s because it is. In a pair of videos that have become online sensations, a group whose mantra loosely translates as “anti-Western creative activity” has distinguished itself as a master of the totally paranoid, totally outrageous genre of postmodern propaganda. It’s a style that abandons all facts, wholeheartedly embraces conspiracy theories, and trafficks in the ludicrous.

Its latest effort is called “I’m a Russian Occupant” and offers a staunch defense-bordering-on-promotion of Russian intervention and, indeed, occupation. Russian occupation of the Baltic states, the video explains, brought factories and power plants and production of radio and audio equipment. Now, with Russian troops gone, Balts sell cheap fish and a large portion of their population are migrant workers, cleaning European toilets. Elsewhere, the story is much the same. Russia brought cosmodromes and stadiums to Central Asia, aerospace technology to Ukraine.

Predictably, now these efforts are being destroyed, according to the video. “They don’t build anything new, except for endless ‘Maidans’ and dictatorship,” the narrator says, referring to the Kiev uprising that toppled the pro-Russian government of Viktor Yanukovych. “Yes, I’m an occupant! And I’m tired of apologizing for it!”

The video reads as a pure expression of Russo-nationalist id, and it was tacitly endorsed on Twitter by Dmitry Rogozin, Russia’s hawkish deputy prime minister.

But this defense of Russian occupation isn’t even the oddly named artistic collective’s greatest work. In September, the group released a nutty video presenting the war in Ukraine as a ruse orchestrated by the United States to weaken Europe and Russia — all for the sake of boosting America in its competition with China. The downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 is presented as a CIA operation. War, the video frantically argues, will save the American treasury — just as World War II rescued the U.S. economy from the great depression. At one point, a shirtless Putin rides into a cityscape atop a bear shooting lasers from its eyes.

We can only humbly bow to these master YouTube propagandists.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/03/laser_bears_and_occupants_these_are_the_masterpieces_of_delusional_russian_propaganda/

These videos are really something else:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if0eXbIprnw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65SwzHAbes

 
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Suspect in Russian Politician’s Killing Blows Himself Up, Report SaysMOSCOW — A suspect in the murder of the opposition politician Boris Y. Nemtsov blew himself up as the police closed in on him overnight, Russian news reports said on Sunday, while new disclosures indicated that one of the men already detained in the killing had served as a police officer in the fight against Islamic insurgents.

Five suspects were due to be arraigned at Basmanny District Court in Moscow, Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for Russia’s Investigative Committee, said in a statement. Security forces established a cordon around the court.

The two prime suspects, whose names have been officially confirmed, are Zaur Dadayev and Anzar Kubashev, whose arrest was announced on Saturday. There was no announcement from law enforcement agencies confirming the names of the other three suspects although details of further detentions emerged overnight.

The arrests and the police activity were centered in the Northern Caucasus, long a trouble spot for Russia, but there was still no coherent picture of the case from Russia’s law enforcement agencies as scattershot details emerged.

The main question many Russians want answered is who ordered the brazen assassination of Mr. Nemtsov, a former deputy prime minister, in central Moscow on Feb. 27, the first killing of a such an important political figure in many years. Given the fact that the shooting took place within sight of the Kremlin, among the most heavily guarded sites in Moscow, opposition figures have accused the government of complicity in the crime, which it has denied.

Mr. Nemtsov was one of the government’s most persistent critics and was due to publish a report that he said would reveal the involvement of the Russian military in the war in Ukraine. The Kremlin has called Russians fighting in Ukraine “volunteers.”

Mr. Nemtsov was killed while walking across a bridge over the Moscow River with his girlfriend, who was not injured. He was shot in the back four times by a gunman who then escaped in a car driven by an accomplice.

In the North Caucasus, the acting head of the Security Council in Ingushetia, Albert Barakhoev, was quoted by the state-run news agencies, Tass and RIA Novosti, as saying that two other men were in police custody, with all four arrests having taken place there. The two other men were Shagid Kubashev, the younger brother of Anzar, and a man described as having been in a car with Mr. Dadayev at the time of his arrest.

All the men detained so far were Chechens, the reports said. In Grozny, the capital of Chechnya, which borders Ingushetia, one suspect blew himself up with a grenade after tossing another one at law enforcement officials outside his apartment who were demanding that he surrender, Interfax reported. No one else was injured in the blasts, the report said.

Mr. Barakhoev revealed some new information about the suspects, including the fact that Mr. Dadayev had worked as a law enforcement officer, serving as deputy commander of a battalion of Interior Ministry troops assigned to fight Islamist insurgents. It was unclear whether he was still with the unit.

The other main suspect, Mr. Kubashev, had worked for a private security company in Moscow as a guard in a hypermarket, according to Mr. Barakhoev. Both are between 30 and 35 years old, he said.

Ajmani Dadayev, the mother of Mr. Dadayev, told state television that the Kubashev brothers were her nephews. The suspects had worked in Moscow for years without any problems, she said.

As of midday Sunday, there had been no official police announcement about further arrests or the Grozny incident.

There have been a series of high-profile murders of government critics in Russia over the past two decades in which the mastermind was never identified.

Last June, for example, Moscow’s highest criminal court sentenced five men, all from the North Caucasus, to prison for the 2006 murder of the investigative journalist Anna Politkovskaya. But her supporters stress that the question of who ordered her killing remains open.

Ms. Politkovskaya was a scathing critic of Kremlin policies in Chechnya and of the local strongman, Ramzan A. Kadyrov.

After two wars in the 1990s, which leveled Grozny, President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia essentially subcontracted control over Chechnya to Mr. Kadyrov.

In recent weeks, Mr. Kadyrov and his supporters have assumed a highly visible role in the movement that seeks to block any attempt to recreate in Russia the kind of political upheaval that forced a change in government in neighboring Ukraine. More broadly, these figures support the conservative, nationalistic, anti-Western ideology that Mr. Putin has made a signature of his third term.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/09/world/europe/suspect-in-russian-politicians-killing-blows-himself-up-report-says.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimesworld&_r=0

 
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Russian tanks have moved into Eastern Ukraine:

Russian Tanks and Fighters Enter Eastern Ukraine, Says Kiev22 Russian tanks crossed into Ukraine’s separatist-held eastern territories over the weekend, as pro-Moscow forces continue to seep into Ukraine’s war-stricken Donetsk and Luhansk regions, Donetsk’s local pro-government officials reported yesterday.

In a statement published on Donetsk’s regional government website, the deputy head of Ukraine’s anti-separatist military operations in Donetsk and Luhansk Valentin Fechev, condemned the “cynical lies” of pro-Russian fighters who have accused Ukraine of violating the ceasefire between the two sides, and instead gave a recent recap of Russian violations.

Fechev told the regional government website that 22 tanks had crossed from Russia via the border town of Gukovo, into Ukraine’s Luhansk region, heading toward the city of Sverdlovsk for maintenance.

On Sunday night 15 separatist Grad missiles were fired at the Ukrainian city of Horlivka. The Donetsk administration explains that pro-Russian fighters had received 122mm Grad missiles as part of one of Russia’s so called “humanitarian convoys”, which continue to arrive in the rebel-held regions. ...
http://www.newsweek.com/russian-tanks-and-fighters-enter-eastern-ukraine-says-kiev-317809

 
Russian Hackers Read Obama’s Unclassified Emails, Officials SayWASHINGTON — Some of President Obama’s email correspondence was swept up by Russian hackers last year in a breach of the White House’s unclassified computer system that was far more intrusive and worrisome than has been publicly acknowledged, according to senior American officials briefed on the investigation.

The hackers, who also got deeply into the State Department’s unclassified system, do not appear to have penetrated closely guarded servers that control the message traffic from Mr. Obama’s BlackBerry, which he or an aide carries constantly.

But they obtained access to the email archives of people inside the White House, and perhaps some outside, with whom Mr. Obama regularly communicated. From those accounts, they reached emails that the president had sent and received, according to officials briefed on the investigation.

White House officials said that no classified networks had been compromised, and that the hackers had collected no classified information. Many senior officials have two computers in their offices, one operating on a highly secure classified network and another connected to the outside world for unclassified communications.

But officials have conceded that the unclassified system routinely contains much information that is considered highly sensitive: schedules, email exchanges with ambassadors and diplomats, discussions of pending personnel moves and legislation, and, inevitably, some debate about policy.

Officials did not disclose the number of Mr. Obama’s emails that were harvested by hackers, nor the sensitivity of their content. The president’s email account itself does not appear to have been hacked. Aides say that most of Mr. Obama’s classified briefings — such as the morning Presidential Daily Brief — are delivered orally or on paper (sometimes supplemented by an iPad system connected to classified networks) and that they are usually confined to the Oval Office or the Situation Room.

Still, the fact that Mr. Obama’s communications were among those hit by the hackers — who are presumed to be linked to the Russian government, if not working for it — has been one of the most closely held findings of the inquiry. Senior White House officials have known for months about the depth of the intrusion.

“This has been one of the most sophisticated actors we’ve seen,” said one senior American official briefed on the investigation.

Others confirmed that the White House intrusion was viewed as so serious that officials met on a nearly daily basis for several weeks after it was discovered. “It’s the Russian angle to this that’s particularly worrisome,” another senior official said.

While Chinese hacking groups are known for sweeping up vast amounts of commercial and design information, the best Russian hackers tend to hide their tracks better and focus on specific, often political targets. And the hacking happened at a moment of renewed tension with Russia — over its annexation of Crimea, the presence of its forces in Ukraine and its renewed military patrols in Europe, reminiscent of the Cold War.

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Inside the White House, the intrusion has raised a new debate about whether it is possible to protect a president’s electronic presence, especially when it reaches out from behind the presumably secure firewalls of the executive branch.

Mr. Obama is no stranger to computer-network attacks: His 2008 campaign was hit by Chinese hackers. Nonetheless, he has long been a frequent user of email, and publicly fought the Secret Service in 2009 to retain his BlackBerry, a topic he has joked about in public. He was issued a special smartphone, and the list of those he can exchange emails with is highly restricted.

When asked about the investigation’s findings, the spokeswoman for the National Security Council, Bernadette Meehan, said, “We’ll decline to comment.” The White House has also declined to provide any explanations about how the breach was handled, though the State Department has been more candid about what kind of systems were hit and what it has done since to improve security. A spokesman for the F.B.I. declined to comment.

Officials who discussed the investigation spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the delicate nature of the hacking. While the White House has refused to identify the nationality of the hackers, others familiar with the investigation said that in both the White House and State Department cases, all signs pointed to Russians.

On Thursday, Secretary of Defense Ashton B. Carter revealed for the first time that Russian hackers had attacked the Pentagon’s unclassified systems, but said they had been identified and “kicked off.” Defense Department officials declined to say if the signatures of the attacks on the Pentagon appeared related to the White House and State Department attacks.

The discovery of the hacking in October led to a partial shutdown of the White House email system. The hackers appear to have been evicted from the White House systems by the end of October. But they continued to plague the State Department, whose system is much more far-flung. The disruptions were so severe that during the Iranian nuclear negotiations in Vienna in November, officials needed to distribute personal email accounts, to one another and to some reporters, to maintain contact.

Earlier this month, officials at the White House said that the hacking had not damaged its systems and that, while elements had been shut down to mitigate the effects of the attack, everything had been restored.

One of the curiosities of the White House and State Department attacks is that the administration, which recently has been looking to name and punish state and nonstate hackers in an effort to deter attacks, has refused to reveal its conclusions about who was responsible for this complex and artful intrusion into the government. That is in sharp contrast to Mr. Obama’s decision, after considerable internal debate in December, to name North Korea for ordering the attack on Sony Pictures Entertainment, and to the director of national intelligence’s decision to name Iranian hackers as the source of a destructive attack on the Sands Casino.

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This month, after CNN reported that hackers had gained access to sensitive areas of the White House computer network, including sections that contained the president’s schedule, the White House spokesman, Josh Earnest, said the administration had not publicly named who was behind the hack because federal investigators had concluded that “it’s not in our best interests.”

By contrast, in the North Korea case, he said, investigators concluded that “we’re more likely to be successful in terms of holding them accountable by naming them publicly.”

But the breach of the president’s emails appeared to be a major factor in the government secrecy. “All of this is very tightly held,” one senior American official said, adding that the content of what had been breached was being kept secret to avoid tipping off the Russians about what had been learned from the investigation.

Mr. Obama’s friends and associates say that he is a committed user of his BlackBerry, but that he is careful when emailing outside the White House system.

“The frequency has dropped off in the last six months or so,” one of his close associates said, though this person added that he did not know if the drop was related to the hacking.

Mr. Obama is known to send emails to aides late at night from his residence, providing them with his feedback on speeches or, at times, entirely new drafts. Others say he has emailed on topics as diverse as his golf game and the struggle with Congress over the Iranian nuclear negotiations.

George W. Bush gave up emailing for the course of his presidency and did not carry a smartphone. But after Mr. Bush left office, his sister’s email account was hacked, and several photos — including some of his paintings — were made public.

The White House is bombarded with cyberattacks daily, not only from Russia and China. Most are easily deflected.

The White House, the State Department, the Pentagon and intelligence agencies put their most classified material into a system called Jwics, for Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System. That is where top-secret and “secret compartmentalized information” traverses within the government, to officials cleared for it — and it includes imagery, data and graphics. There is no evidence, senior officials said, that this hacking pierced it.

But as data has gone mobile, the challenge has been to balance the desire for speed and connectivity with security. The State Department, for example, has 285 posts around the world, with tens of thousands of people who need access to data — and often connections to more heavily protected databases.

Officials say that while the State Department’s email system was compromised, the databases were not. The attackers on the State Department did not attempt to slow the system down, or to destroy computer systems — which is what happened to Sony. Instead, the goal was exfiltration of data. The same appears to be the case at the White House.

The “Internet protocol” addresses that the attacks appeared to come from were false, designed to mislead investigators. And the code was new and extremely sophisticated, clearly designed to evade even advanced security systems.
 
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Putin Defends Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact in Press Conference with MerkelRussian President Vladimir Putin defended 1939's Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany as Moscow's response to being isolated and having its peace efforts snubbed by Western nations.

At the close of his Sunday meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Moscow — a day after Russian held grand-scale celebrations of the allied victory in World War II — Putin offered a lengthy defense of the controversial agreement that led to the carving up of Eastern Europe.

"The Soviet Union made massive efforts to lay the groundwork for a collective resistance to Nazism in Germany, made repeated attempts to create an anti-fascist bloc in Europe. All of these attempts failed," Putin told journalists at a joint news conference with Merkel, according to a transcript released by the Kremlin.

"And when the Soviet Union realized that it was being left one-on-one with Hitler's Germany, it took steps to avoid a direct confrontation, and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed," Putin said.

Merkel offered a diplomatically phrased objection, telling the joint news conference that the "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is difficult to understand without considering the additional secret protocol. With that in mind, I think it was wrong, it was done illegally," she said, according to the Kremlin's Russian-language transcript.

The secret protocol, which accompanied what was officially presented as a non-aggression treaty, divided up the territories of Poland, Romania, the Baltic nations and Finland into German and Soviet "spheres of influence." It led to the German and Soviet invasions of Poland, and to the Soviet annexation of the three Baltic states — Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania — and parts of Romania.

Putin's defense of the pact comes after Moscow's annexation of Crimea from Ukraine last year, and amid Eastern European countries' concerns their territories could be seized next.

Poland's President Bronislaw Komorowski described this weekend's Victory Day parade in Moscow as a "demonstration of force," The New York Times reported.

Polish Foreign Minister Grzegorz Schetyna said that the end of World War II should not be celebrated in Russia because it was among the countries where it originated, the report said.

Putin's recent remarks mark a sharp about-face from his comments a few years earlier.

During a visit to Poland in 2009, Putin, then prime minister, denounced the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact as a "collusion to solve one's problems at others' expense."

"All attempts between 1934 and 1939 to pacify the Nazis by making various kinds of agreements and pacts with them, were unacceptable from the moral point of view, and from the political point of view were pointless, harmful and dangerous," Putin said in 2009 during a visit to Poland's Gdansk, according to a transcript posted on the Russian Cabinet website.

But amid Western sanctions against Moscow for its annexation of Crimea and support for pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, the Kremlin has shifted to an increasing glorification of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin and his regime's pact with Nazi Germany.

Putin said last November that the pact was not so bad.

"The Soviet Union signed a non-aggression treaty with Germany," he told a meeting with historians. "They say: Oh, this is so bad. But what's so bad about it if the Soviet Union did not want to go to war? What's so bad about it?"

Following his speech, Russia's Culture Minister Vladimir Medinsky in the run-up to this year's Victory Day celebrations praised the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact as a "colossal achievement of Stalin's diplomacy."
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/news/article/putin-defends-ribbentrop-molotov-pact-in-press-conference-with-merkel/520513.html

 
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Putin Allies Aided Russian Mafia in Spain, Prosecutors SaySome of Vladimir Putin’s closest allies, including the chairman of OAO Gazprom, a deputy premier and two former ministers, helped one of Russia’s largest criminal groups operate out of Spain for more than a decade, prosecutors in Madrid say.

Members of St. Petersburg’s Tambov crime syndicate moved into Spain in 1996, when Putin was deputy mayor of the former czarist capital, to launder proceeds from their illicit activities, Juan Carrau and Jose Grinda wrote in a petition to the Central Court on May 29, a copy of which was obtained by Bloomberg News.

The 488-page complaint, the product of a decade of investigations into the spread of Russian organized crime during the Putin era, portrays links between the criminal enterprise and top law-enforcement officials and policy makers in Moscow. The petition, based on thousands of wiretaps, bank transfers and property transactions, is a formal request to charge 27 people with money laundering, fraud and other crimes. Approval by a judge would clear the way for a trial, but Spain doesn’t try people in absentia.

The only Russian official facing possible charges is Vladislav Reznik, a member of Putin’s ruling United Russia party and the deputy head of the finance committee in the lower house of parliament. The complaint, earlier reported by Spain’s El Mundo and ABC newspapers, says Reznik helped the alleged leader of the enterprise, Gennady Petrov, get his associates appointed to key posts in Russia in exchange for assets in Spain. Prosecutors are seeking to confiscate a property they say Reznik owns on the resort island of Majorca.

‘Clear Penetration’“The criminal organization headed by Petrov managed to achieve a clear penetration of the state structures in his country, not only with the lawmaker Reznik but with several ministers,” the prosecutors say in the petition.

Putin himself is mentioned by name three times in the document, including in a partial transcript of a call between two alleged Tambov operatives in 2007. The men are discussing an issue with a hotel in the Alicante region and one refers to a house that he says Putin owns in nearby Torrevieja.

“This is total nonsense,” Putin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said of the Spanish allegations. “It’s beyond the realm of reason.”

Reznik, in an interview in Moscow, denied any wrongdoing. He said his relationship with Petrov is “purely social” and that he would welcome the opportunity to travel to Spain and clear his name if a trial takes place.

Bank RossiyaWhile accusations of graft are not uncommon in Russia, which is tied with Nigeria in Transparency International’s corruption perception ranking, few investigations have identified so many senior officials by name. The highest-ranking person publicly sanctioned under the U.S. Magnitsky Act, enacted in 2012 to punish Russians deemed complicit in the prison death of an accountant who alleged large-scale theft by officials, is a deputy general prosecutor.

Petrov was an early shareholder in Bank Rossiya, the St. Petersburg lender set up by some of Putin’s oldest allies and the first company sanctioned by the U.S. after Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine. Spanish police arrested Petrov during a raid on his Majorca villa in 2008. He was later allowed to travel to Russia but never returned. Russia doesn’t allow the extradition of its citizens.

A lawyer for Petrov, Roberto Mazorriaga, said by e-mail that prosecutors haven’t provided any evidence to support their allegations.

‘Mafia’ StateInvestigators in Spain have been at the vanguard of the fight against Russian organized crime, warning fellow NATO members for years of the dangers posed by what they call state-sanctioned syndicates, an issue that’s become more acute since the conflict in Ukraine rekindled Cold War distrust.

After a briefing by Grinda, one of the prosecutors, in Madrid in 2010, U.S. officials concluded that Putin runs a “virtual mafia” state where the activities of criminal networks are indistinguishable from those of the government, according to a classified cable from the U.S. embassy in the Spanish capital that was published by WikiLeaks.

Russian security services control criminal groups and use them to do things the government “cannot acceptably do,” Grinda was cited as telling U.S. officials at the time. One mafia leader in Spain was actually a Russian intelligence officer tasked with “selling weapons to the Kurds to destabilize Turkey,” the embassy said in the cable.

Litvinenko MurderA lawyer for the widow of dissident Russian agent Alexander Litvinenko, who died of radioactive poisoning in London in 2006, in January accused senior officials in Moscow of ordering Litvinenko’s death in part to prevent him from helping Spain root out Russian criminal networks.

The Kremlin has repeatedly denied having anything to do with Litvinenko’s murder. In March, Putin awarded a medal to the chief suspect in the ongoing U.K. probe, fellow KGB veteran Andrei Lugovoi, who’s now a member of parliament, for “services to the fatherland.”

Petrov used Spain as a base to carry out criminal activities mainly in Russia, including murder, arms trafficking, drug smuggling, extortion and fraud, the prosecutors say, repeating some of the accusations that led to his 2008 arrest. Political and judicial contacts in Russia offered him help, including advice on his personal safety; inside information about business dealings; the threat posed by other criminal groups; planned actions against organized crime; and the amount of influence he needed to exert, they say.

Gazprom, DefenseHis network in Moscow, according to the document, includes Viktor Zubkov, the chairman of gas exporter Gazprom who was prime minister and first deputy premier from 2007 to 2012, and Zubkov’s son-in-law, former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov.

Serdyukov “does business with Petrov” and Zubkov, who worked for Putin in the St. Petersburg government in the early 1990s, “favored Petrov’s organization with some political decisions,” the prosecutors say, without elaborating. Serdyukov’s lawyer, Genrikh Padva, declined to comment and Zubkov didn’t respond to a request for comment sent through Gazprom’s press service. Neither man is facing indictment.

Other officials mentioned as being “directly related” to Petrov’s group include Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak and Alexander Bastrykin, who runs the powerful Investigative Committee that oversees major criminal inquiries. Bastrykin and Putin both earned their law degrees from Leningrad State University in 1975. Kozak graduated from the same law school a decade later and worked in City Hall at the same time as Putin.

Post-Soviet ChaosKozak -- about whom no detail is provided in the complaint -- said he only knows of Petrov through media reports, according to his spokesman, Ilya Djous. Bastrykin’s committee said in a statement that it didn’t have any information corroborating the reported information of Spanish prosecutors.

Another senior Russian official at the time, Leonid Reiman, who was communications minister and a Kremlin adviser from 1999 to 2010, was a business partner of Petrov’s, the prosecutors say. Reiman has “no ties” to Petrov, OAO Angstrem, a technology company in Moscow that Reiman is chairman of, said by e-mail.

Petrov, 67, was an influential figure in St. Petersburg during the chaos that followed the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and knew many of the city’s political elite, including Zubkov, Bastrykin and Kozak, two people who knew him at the time said on condition of anonymity.

78 CallsPetrov proved to be influential in Moscow under President Putin, too, the Spanish prosecutors say. When Putin created the Investigative Committee as a counterweight to the Prosecutor General’s Office in 2007, Petrov helped secure Bastrykin’s appointment as its first chairman, they say, citing wire taps of calls between Petrov and one of Bastrykin’s future deputies.

Another law-enforcement official, Nikolai Aulov, is “one of the most important persons for Petrov” in Russia, according to the document. Aulov is a deputy of Viktor Ivanov, who runs the Federal Narcotics Service and is a former KGB colleague of Putin’s in Leningrad and later St. Petersburg.

Investigators logged 78 phone calls between Aulov and Petrov. In March 2008, according to the complaint, Petrov asked an associate to get Aulov to pressure Russia’s new customs chief to facilitate port shipments for his group.

The drug agency’s press service referred requests for comment from Aulov and Ivanov to an interview Ivanov gave to the Kommersant newspaper this month. In it, Ivanov said he doesn’t know what “dirty political games” the Spanish are playing because Aulov helped bust a criminal gang led by Petrov in St. Petersburg in the early 1990s.

“This Petrov probe could change the narrative of Putin in the West -- from being a Stalinist tyrant defending the interests of his country to being a product of gangster Petersburg who united authorities with organized crime,” said Stanislav Belkovsky, a Kremlin adviser during Putin’s first term who consults at Moscow’s Institute for National Strategy.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-29/putin-allies-aided-russian-mafia-in-spain-prosecutors-say
 
I just thought it should be pointed out somewhere that Russia has moved into Syria.

Militarily.

Fighter jets, fighter helos, and troop transport has been deployed. I think there are 4-5K combat personnel there now.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-russian-defense-chiefs-talk-about-syria-first-contact-n429811?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=18a61a6b53b9690d14eae12a8f948c36
Well, that war is over. No way the rebels will be able to combat that. We probably need to boost our forces in Iraq or that Iranian/Russian influence will creep into there as well (more than currently). I can't imagine any of this is much of a surprise. Finger-wagging only gets you so far.

 
I just thought it should be pointed out somewhere that Russia has moved into Syria.

Militarily.

Fighter jets, fighter helos, and troop transport has been deployed. I think there are 4-5K combat personnel there now.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-russian-defense-chiefs-talk-about-syria-first-contact-n429811?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=18a61a6b53b9690d14eae12a8f948c36
Well, that war is over. No way the rebels will be able to combat that. We probably need to boost our forces in Iraq or that Iranian/Russian influence will creep into there as well (more than currently). I can't imagine any of this is much of a surprise. Finger-wagging only gets you so far.
I think, or suspect, this is actually US policy. We've delegated out the middle east or at least abandoned it. It's a vacuum. First ISIS/AQ, then Iran, now Russia, which of course is aligned with Iran. We've totally removed ourselves from the situation. Saudi Arabia, Jordan and our former allies left in Iraq/Kurdistan (who are largely out of power btw) are probably pretty damn nervous right about now.

 
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Not sure what to think of this. Is Russia sending "boots on the ground" support in order to defeat ISIS? If so, are we behind the 8 ball?

 
Putin is basically lecturing the UN right now and blaming the U.S. for everything.
This is a very serious speech, maybe a major one. Putin is proposing a vigorous world view opposed to American influence since WW2.

The US has basically handed over its role as policeman in the mideast and who knows where else in one speech and Putin is suggesting he will pick the baton up in the other.

 
Putin is basically lecturing the UN right now and blaming the U.S. for everything.
This is a very serious speech, maybe a major one. Putin is proposing a vigorous world view opposed to American influence since WW2.

The US has basically handed over its role as policeman in the mideast and who knows where else in one speech and Putin is suggesting he will pick the baton up in the other.
I missed Obama's. Putin basically said the war in Iraq, arming rebels against Assad, and the air strikes in Libya have caused all of the problems in today's world. That by expanding NATO we are bad guys. And all of our efforts are designed to thwart Russia and others from gaining any power and that we violate the UN and WTO through trade agreements.

 
Putin is basically lecturing the UN right now and blaming the U.S. for everything.
This is a very serious speech, maybe a major one. Putin is proposing a vigorous world view opposed to American influence since WW2.

The US has basically handed over its role as policeman in the mideast and who knows where else in one speech and Putin is suggesting he will pick the baton up in the other.
I missed Obama's. Putin basically said the war in Iraq, arming rebels against Assad, and the air strikes in Libya have caused all of the problems in today's world. That by expanding NATO we are bad guys. And all of our efforts are designed to thwart Russia and others from gaining any power and that we violate the UN and WTO through trade agreements.
Yeah, that's right. Putin is offering an alternative path for the 21st Century that is very different from what we the world have been doing since 1945. It may prove to be a major foreign policy speech one day. Putin is not messing around, he is talking geopolitical strategy that excludes us, the US.

 
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Putin is basically lecturing the UN right now and blaming the U.S. for everything.
This is a very serious speech, maybe a major one. Putin is proposing a vigorous world view opposed to American influence since WW2.

The US has basically handed over its role as policeman in the mideast and who knows where else in one speech and Putin is suggesting he will pick the baton up in the other.
I missed Obama's. Putin basically said the war in Iraq, arming rebels against Assad, and the air strikes in Libya have caused all of the problems in today's world. That by expanding NATO we are bad guys. And all of our efforts are designed to thwart Russia and others from gaining any power and that we violate the UN and WTO through trade agreements.
Yeah, that's right. Putin is offering an alternative path for the 21st Century that is very different from what we the world have been doing since 1945. It may prove to be a major foreign policy speech one day. Putin is not messing around, he is talking geopolitical strategy that excludes us, the US.
WWIII is basically brewing in the Middle East and in the Arctic with some forays into Africa as well. Putin's efforts to take land is akin to what Hitler was doing for Germany (re-aquiring what they thoughts was rightfully theirs) and the mass migration and civil wars in the Middle East resembles Europe back then as well.

 
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Putin is basically lecturing the UN right now and blaming the U.S. for everything.
This is a very serious speech, maybe a major one. Putin is proposing a vigorous world view opposed to American influence since WW2.

The US has basically handed over its role as policeman in the mideast and who knows where else in one speech and Putin is suggesting he will pick the baton up in the other.
I missed Obama's. Putin basically said the war in Iraq, arming rebels against Assad, and the air strikes in Libya have caused all of the problems in today's world. That by expanding NATO we are bad guys. And all of our efforts are designed to thwart Russia and others from gaining any power and that we violate the UN and WTO through trade agreements.
Yeah, that's right. Putin is offering an alternative path for the 21st Century that is very different from what we the world have been doing since 1945. It may prove to be a major foreign policy speech one day. Putin is not messing around, he is talking geopolitical strategy that excludes us, the US.
WWIII is basically brewing in the Middle East and in the Arctic with some forays into Africa as well.
Or not. If we withdraw and announce that as policy then why should we be surprised that Russia and China move in. There's no global war if we concede - with our actions - their right to expand.

 
I just thought it should be pointed out somewhere that Russia has moved into Syria.

Militarily.

Fighter jets, fighter helos, and troop transport has been deployed. I think there are 4-5K combat personnel there now.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-russian-defense-chiefs-talk-about-syria-first-contact-n429811?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=18a61a6b53b9690d14eae12a8f948c36
You do know that they have been there militarily since the 70's? And have been Assad's weapons supplier as well.

 
I just thought it should be pointed out somewhere that Russia has moved into Syria.

Militarily.

Fighter jets, fighter helos, and troop transport has been deployed. I think there are 4-5K combat personnel there now.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-russian-defense-chiefs-talk-about-syria-first-contact-n429811?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=18a61a6b53b9690d14eae12a8f948c36
You do know that they have been there militarily since the 70's? And have been Assad's weapons supplier as well.
Yep.

You don't think they are noticeably increasing their presence?

 
I just thought it should be pointed out somewhere that Russia has moved into Syria.

Militarily.

Fighter jets, fighter helos, and troop transport has been deployed. I think there are 4-5K combat personnel there now.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-russian-defense-chiefs-talk-about-syria-first-contact-n429811?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=18a61a6b53b9690d14eae12a8f948c36
You do know that they have been there militarily since the 70's? And have been Assad's weapons supplier as well.
Yep.

You don't think they are noticeably increasing their presence?
Well you mentioned moving in - when they have always been there.

4/5K it's like calling up the Illinois National Guard. I don't think it will make a bunch of difference other than keeping Assad "safe". It will be interesting to see if Russia has the stomach for this - they haven't in the past.

 
I just thought it should be pointed out somewhere that Russia has moved into Syria.

Militarily.

Fighter jets, fighter helos, and troop transport has been deployed. I think there are 4-5K combat personnel there now.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-russian-defense-chiefs-talk-about-syria-first-contact-n429811?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=18a61a6b53b9690d14eae12a8f948c36
You do know that they have been there militarily since the 70's? And have been Assad's weapons supplier as well.
Yep.

You don't think they are noticeably increasing their presence?
Well you mentioned moving in - when they have always been there.

4/5K it's like calling up the Illinois National Guard. I don't think it will make a bunch of difference other than keeping Assad "safe". It will be interesting to see if Russia has the stomach for this - they haven't in the past.
Oh right, sorry. I meant militarily, directly, as opposed to say advisors and support. This looks like what they did in Crimea and Donbass to me.

He is also calling for a coalition to fight Isis with Iraq and Iran.

 
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I just thought it should be pointed out somewhere that Russia has moved into Syria.

Militarily.

Fighter jets, fighter helos, and troop transport has been deployed. I think there are 4-5K combat personnel there now.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-russian-defense-chiefs-talk-about-syria-first-contact-n429811?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=18a61a6b53b9690d14eae12a8f948c36
You do know that they have been there militarily since the 70's? And have been Assad's weapons supplier as well.
Yep.

You don't think they are noticeably increasing their presence?
Well you mentioned moving in - when they have always been there.

4/5K it's like calling up the Illinois National Guard. I don't think it will make a bunch of difference other than keeping Assad "safe". It will be interesting to see if Russia has the stomach for this - they haven't in the past.
Oh right, sorry. I meant militarily, directly, as opposed to say advisors and support. This looks like what they did in Crimea and Donbass to me.

He is also calling for a coalition to fight Isis with Iraq and Iran.
This would be great if it keeps the US out of the bullseye while China and Russia carry the water for a bit.

 
I just thought it should be pointed out somewhere that Russia has moved into Syria.

Militarily.

Fighter jets, fighter helos, and troop transport has been deployed. I think there are 4-5K combat personnel there now.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-russian-defense-chiefs-talk-about-syria-first-contact-n429811?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=18a61a6b53b9690d14eae12a8f948c36
You do know that they have been there militarily since the 70's? And have been Assad's weapons supplier as well.
Yep.

You don't think they are noticeably increasing their presence?
Well you mentioned moving in - when they have always been there.

4/5K it's like calling up the Illinois National Guard. I don't think it will make a bunch of difference other than keeping Assad "safe". It will be interesting to see if Russia has the stomach for this - they haven't in the past.
Oh right, sorry. I meant militarily, directly, as opposed to say advisors and support. This looks like what they did in Crimea and Donbass to me.

He is also calling for a coalition to fight Isis with Iraq and Iran.
This would be great if it keeps the US out of the bullseye while China and Russia carry the water for a bit.
In one respect that's true, we're all tired of the burden here in the US and frankly we've done a lousy job of it.

We're handing some serious influence over to big league thugs in Russia though. The positive, if they do this and succeed, is we could see Isis defeated and stability in the mideast. The negative of it is Russia and Iran will have influence across the Levant for themselves, and Russia will be a major player in the mideast and maybe bigger than us.

 
I just thought it should be pointed out somewhere that Russia has moved into Syria.

Militarily.

Fighter jets, fighter helos, and troop transport has been deployed. I think there are 4-5K combat personnel there now.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-russian-defense-chiefs-talk-about-syria-first-contact-n429811?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=18a61a6b53b9690d14eae12a8f948c36
You do know that they have been there militarily since the 70's? And have been Assad's weapons supplier as well.
Yep.

You don't think they are noticeably increasing their presence?
Well you mentioned moving in - when they have always been there.

4/5K it's like calling up the Illinois National Guard. I don't think it will make a bunch of difference other than keeping Assad "safe". It will be interesting to see if Russia has the stomach for this - they haven't in the past.
Oh right, sorry. I meant militarily, directly, as opposed to say advisors and support. This looks like what they did in Crimea and Donbass to me.

He is also calling for a coalition to fight Isis with Iraq and Iran.
This would be great if it keeps the US out of the bullseye while China and Russia carry the water for a bit.
In one respect that's true, we're all tired of the burden here in the US and frankly we've done a lousy job of it.

We're handing some serious influence over to big league thugs in Russia though. The positive, if they do this and succeed, is we could see Isis defeated and stability in the mideast. The negative of it is Russia and Iran will have influence across the Levant for themselves, and Russia will be a major player in the mideast and maybe bigger than us.
I'm not afraid of the boogeyman as the US will always have the capacity to reassert when necessary but allowing for an alternative structure to the current mideast setup is an outside the box approach that may indeed work out for the best as it relates to global security. Let Russia bang it's gong, as long as they are willing to take over on the front lines I'm okay with that.

 
In one respect that's true, we're all tired of the burden here in the US and frankly we've done a lousy job of it.

We're handing some serious influence over to big league thugs in Russia though. The positive, if they do this and succeed, is we could see Isis defeated and stability in the mideast. The negative of it is Russia and Iran will have influence across the Levant for themselves, and Russia will be a major player in the mideast and maybe bigger than us.
Russia has had influence in the ME since well back into the Cold War. Russia is taking advantage of the weak and discombobulated foreign policy that we have had over years under this Administration. Whether it is Ukraine, Crimea, or Syria- Putin is confident that things will never escalate over a very stern 'please stop' and some sanctions that will never fully impact them because any sanctions that would hurt them has to go through the Security Council and they hold their veto vote.

For Syria, I am not sure that this will really change things much on the ground in terms of bringin about a decisive victory. I suspect the Russians will not focus solely on ISIS and if they push back all rebel groups it should just shore up Assad and not really bring a final ending to this civil war. Russia does not have the capability of force projection that we do and even more so in Syria. They have to fly over and around to supply through Iran/Iraq. This is prompted by the fact that Assad has been losing ground steadily and the Russians see their chance to prop up an ally, exert more influence in the ME, and gain another piece to negoitate with.

For there to be a real game changer, they will need to increase troop levels greatly. What they have now does not seem to be much more than force protection. Their air power will help Assad's forces but they will need Russian spotters to really be effective and cordinate with Syrian troops. They will need to continue to build up forces much larger for it to really be more than propping Assad up. How much they can build that up is an interesting question concerning the limitations they have in force projection and the logistical challenges they will have with air space being blocked from them.

 
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Iraq Open to Russian Requests for Reconnaissance Flights
Move comes a day after Baghdad announced intelligence-sharing deal with Moscow, Syria and IranIraq would be receptive to Russian requests to conduct reconnaissance flights in Iraqi airspace to spy on Islamic State militants, a defense ministry spokesman said on Monday ...
http://www.wsj.com/articles/iraq-open-to-russian-requests-for-reconnaissance-flights-over-country-1443446662
Iraq is going to be pretty happy to go along with most anything the Russians ask as long as they feel the US won't get too upset. Iraq is already significantly influenced by Iran since the Iraqi government is heavily Shia and the Shiite militias basically keeping the Iraqi's in the fight against Daesh along with filling out power vaccum. Iraq is going to be all the more happy to allow the Russians to take the fight to Daesh because they can't themselves and Daesh almost rolled them up. With our "Throw a few bombs then hope and pray" strategy- the Iraqi's are going to be all too willing to work closely with the Russians as much as they can get away with.

 
Iraq Open to Russian Requests for Reconnaissance Flights
Move comes a day after Baghdad announced intelligence-sharing deal with Moscow, Syria and IranIraq would be receptive to Russian requests to conduct reconnaissance flights in Iraqi airspace to spy on Islamic State militants, a defense ministry spokesman said on Monday ...
http://www.wsj.com/articles/iraq-open-to-russian-requests-for-reconnaissance-flights-over-country-1443446662
I don't like it. Iraq sharing intelligence with Russia sets them up to give out American troop movements should things escalate and have the US on opposite sides of the Russians. Having Iraq as a Russian ally after all the US blood and money spent in Iraq is a slap in the face.

 
Iraq Open to Russian Requests for Reconnaissance Flights
Move comes a day after Baghdad announced intelligence-sharing deal with Moscow, Syria and IranIraq would be receptive to Russian requests to conduct reconnaissance flights in Iraqi airspace to spy on Islamic State militants, a defense ministry spokesman said on Monday ...
http://www.wsj.com/articles/iraq-open-to-russian-requests-for-reconnaissance-flights-over-country-1443446662
I don't like it. Iraq sharing intelligence with Russia sets them up to give out American troop movements should things escalate and have the US on opposite sides of the Russians. Having Iraq as a Russian ally after all the US blood and money spent in Iraq is a slap in the face.
Iran has been gaining influence in Iraq for years now. This is not really anything new- just continued loss of influence as we washed our hands of them and send a card saying "good luck" along with hardware and supplies.

 
So, basically, Russia is getting themselves into a huge quagmire that we, the U.S., are trying to disengage from. Good. Let them bankrupt themselves.

 
So, basically, Russia is getting themselves into a huge quagmire that we, the U.S., are trying to disengage from. Good. Let them bankrupt themselves.
It always amazes me that people in these threads think Iraq worked out so well that they want to do it again.

 
Pentagon's top Russia official resignsThe Pentagon’s top official overseeing military relations with Russia and Ukraine is resigning amid the ongoing debate within the Obama administration over how to respond to Russian moves in Ukraine and Syria.

Evelyn Farkas, deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia, is leaving her post at the end of next month after five years with the Defense Department, a senior defense official confirmed to POLITICO.

“She has advised three secretaries of defense on Russia policy, providing steady counsel on how the U.S. should respond to Russia's aggressive actions and has been deeply involved in securing $244 million in support for Ukraine,” the official said. “In addition, Evelyn has brought fresh thinking to Southeast Europe policies — supporting Montenegro's interest in joining NATO, expanding defense cooperation with Georgia, and increasing multilateral cooperation with the three Caucasus nations.”

Another senior defense official said the administration would likely have a hard time finding a replacement.

"There are not a lot of Europe experts in this administration who have a long record of accomplishment," the official said. "There's no doubt this leaves the Pentagon weaker in terms of its policy-making on European issues."

Farkas had no comment Tuesday.


Her departure comes at a sensitive time for the administration as President Barack Obama’s national security team is divided over how to respond to Ukraine’s pleas for more advanced weapons to help battle Moscow-backed rebels and Russia’s military deployments in Syria.

Farkas is a veteran defense policy hand, having served as a senior adviser to the U.S. European Command, executive director of a congressionally mandated commission on proliferation and a professional staff member on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

As assistant secretary of defense, she traveled widely as part of the ongoing international standoff with Russia over Ukraine. All along, however, Russia has been a deep point of contention between the White House and the Pentagon.

Obama pushed out his previous defense secretary, Chuck Hagel, after he urged a stronger American response to Russia’s aggression. Hagel also questioned the president’s strategy for arming so-called moderate Syrian fighters against the Islamic State, a program that has since all but imploded in an embarrassment for the administration.

Further complicating matters — and uniting those two crises — are Russia’s recent military deployments in Syria, which include some 32 combat aircraft along with attack helicopters, armored vehicles and many troops.

Obama met with Russian President Vladimir Putin Monday on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York to learn more about Russia’s

intentions in Syria. Obama has asked for answers from his national security team about Russia, but the limits he has placed on potential U.S. action might mean they don’t have many new options to recommend.In testimony last year before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Farkas took a hard line on Russia, saying the country’s actions “stand as an affront to the international order that we and our allies have worked to build since the end of the Cold War.”

"Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea, followed by blatant and unconcealed efforts to destabilize eastern and southern Ukraine, signifies a paradigm shift for our relations with Russia,” she said in prepared testimony. “As the crisis deepens, our European allies and partners will look to the United States to demonstrate resolve and to reinforce solidarity across the continent.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/pro-defense-farkas-wrightewing-214223#ixzz3nAtK81ja


- Interesting timing.

 
So, basically, Russia is getting themselves into a huge quagmire that we, the U.S., are trying to disengage from. Good. Let them bankrupt themselves.
Maybe. Couple differences though: Russia has cooperation with Syria and Iran and they also have almost no problem with shedding blood, not to mention their press doesn't report on it because they're not free, so no public pressure about any losses.

Not saying you're wrong of course.

 
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I've been reading up on the Sukhoi-34 fighter-bomber aircraft. Several of this type have been deployed by the Russian Federation to Syria. Impressive. Very similar to the American F-15 Strike Eagle.

You're watching history unfold before your eyes. How it ends? Dunno...

 

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