AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
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UFC wagering: breaking news - judging is so terrible it got me to return here to update this thread title (9 Viewers)
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AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Also, there's this movie. 
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Possum
Footballguy
nice - guy is a bad judge and an even worse ref.funniest part of that video to me though is Goldberg during the Sherk-Dunham fight: "IIIT'S AAALLLLLLL OOOOOVVVEEE--- no, sorry"
modogg
Footballguy
Bubba was annoying as hell on that show, but you could tell time in the house just totally f'd with his head. He psyched himself out horribly with his fight against Uriah. But that being said, I don't know what Gilbert Smith can do to win this fight. I guarantee Greg Jackson and company will have Bubba ready to win this one, and i jsut can't see him screwing this one up.
That being said, I don't have a ton of love gambling wise for this card. I remember a year or 2 ago when they would have some whacky lines coming out for the TUF finales, and you could make some good cash taking a lot of underdogs. Not like thatn anymore, unfortunately. This is what i have so far for tomorrow, and nothing really has me that confident:
Bubba McDaniel -170
Sam Sicilia +180
Bart Palaszewski -170
J L:awrence -110
M. Tate (ev)
D. Andrew -115
B. Marunde +150
I might go as far as saying I like the Lawrence play the best. Crazy how hyped he was coming out of the show, and how quickly that crashed.Pineda is ok at everything, but not particularly great in any facet of MMA. I think Lawrence dominates this one
hooter311
Footballguy
I no longer like Marunde or Blanco after the weigh ins. Wouldn't be able to bring myself to back Sicilia though.
Hart looks like good value. Should be able to control the fight with his wrestling.
McDaniel -165
Hart -105
Andrews -120
Gonzaga +210
Tate +115
Gastelum +320
Hart looks like good value. Should be able to control the fight with his wrestling.
McDaniel -165
Hart -105
Andrews -120
Gonzaga +210
Tate +115
Gastelum +320
I think he isn't treating it, which is why he is so pale now.
hooter311
Footballguy
I think I like Pineda over Lawrence, mo.
Lawrence's gas tank is only about a round and a half, and his striking defense is not great. Lawrence has a wrestling advantage but I don't think he is going to want to spend much time on the ground with a guy like Pineda.
I'm seeing a Pineda by sub finish.
ETA: It's a fair line, the fight is a coin flip pretty much any way you look at it with Lawrence having more of an early advantage and Pineda later.
Lawrence's gas tank is only about a round and a half, and his striking defense is not great. Lawrence has a wrestling advantage but I don't think he is going to want to spend much time on the ground with a guy like Pineda.
I'm seeing a Pineda by sub finish.
ETA: It's a fair line, the fight is a coin flip pretty much any way you look at it with Lawrence having more of an early advantage and Pineda later.
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modogg
Footballguy
You might be right. Nothing looks like a great bet on the card, and these TUC finales are always tricky. I just think the love for Lawrence was too crazy before and now it is under valueing him. I can't remember if be has one of the fights on the fuel portion of the card or not, but I hope we get to see this one televised.
modogg
Footballguy
I am not watching any of the facebook stuff figuring all the fights will make it onto either the Fuel telecast or FX one, but what the heck happened here. I just saw my acct. took a nice hit, Friggin' Lawrence. <_<
modogg
Footballguy
i'm adding Hart too. I know Luke has been training with Chael and Bisping ever since the show ended, and Hart trains with David Terrell. My guess is you can't gain takedown defense that quickly, guess we'll see
ETA: and yeah, i totally hear you about betting on Sicilia. It was the lightest play for me, but was still throwing away money. Gaven't seen it yet, but Sicilia sucks. i was banking on Blanco still sucking. Hate starting 0-2
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EYLive
Footballguy
Hmmm, I thought he was a light guy with dark patches. Turns out he's a dark guy with light patches.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
hooter311
Footballguy
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
ya hes pretty bad...so one dimensional ,and just rushing in at people in a straight line with his chin exposed...dumb
hooter311
Footballguy
Barnatt is so slow, he would get sent home in a body bag against 90% of the competition in the UFC.
modogg
Footballguy
yeah, didn't see that at all. I don't know how that is even possible. i had it 29-28 Hart, and i'm not even sure what rounds Luke definitely won. Only thing i can see is Hart did not dominate. 1st round was definitely Hart, have no idea how you could possibly give it to Luke when Hart landed more shots, more power shots and had a takedown.
hooter311
Footballguy
That was awful. I can't wait to see the fight metric on that one.
modogg
Footballguy
Yeah, the more i think about it the more i can't figure out how you could give that fight to Luke. He had a submission attempt or 2, but none that put Hart in any big trouble. I think Hart easilty won the stand-up battle. One of those things where Hart wasn't necessarily dominant, but he controlled the stand-up exchanges and landed the more power shots. I agree, I have to see the stats and figure out how it was possible Luke won. We have all been burned by bad decisions, but i just can't even see what Luke did in that fight to win it
modogg
Footballguy
Had under 1.5 rounds in this Samman-Casey fight. I didn't catch the time it ended, but they could have called that 30-45 seconds earlier. Hoping I get lucky here, turning out to be a disastrous card gambing wise for me right now
ETA: Arrghhhh. Called it at 2:17 of the 2nd round
ETA: Arrghhhh. Called it at 2:17 of the 2nd round
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hooter311
Footballguy
That's a win, mo.Had under 1.5 rounds in this Samman-Casey fight. I didn't catch the time it ended, but they could have called that 30-45 seconds earlier. Hoping I get lucky here, turning out to be a disastrous card gambing wise for me right now
ETA: Arrghhhh. Called it at 2:17 of the 2nd round
Isn't it?
modogg
Footballguy
I hope so, I was just trying to think if that was 2:17 into the 2nd round, or 2:17 left. Book hasn't processed it yet...That's a win, mo.Had under 1.5 rounds in this Samman-Casey fight. I didn't catch the time it ended, but they could have called that 30-45 seconds earlier. Hoping I get lucky here, turning out to be a disastrous card gambing wise for me right now
ETA: Arrghhhh. Called it at 2:17 of the 2nd round
Isn't it?
ETA: And Kevin Casey, I don't know what to say about that guy. Hate ever saying someone doesn't have any heart, but the guy was defeated as soon as that 2nd round started. It was like the gameplan was try to get a sub right off the bat, and if you don't get it just give up. Strange
And ETA2: whew, it was 2:17 into the round. Thank you herb for jumping in quickly.
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Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
WOuldn't anything under 2:30 be a win for you?Had under 1.5 rounds in this Samman-Casey fight. I didn't catch the time it ended, but they could have called that 30-45 seconds earlier. Hoping I get lucky here, turning out to be a disastrous card gambing wise for me right now
ETA: Arrghhhh. Called it at 2:17 of the 2nd round
hooter311
Footballguy
You should be good, that was time into the round.I hope so, I was just trying to think if that was 2:17 into the 2nd round, or 2:17 left. Book hasn't processed it yet...That's a win, mo.Had under 1.5 rounds in this Samman-Casey fight. I didn't catch the time it ended, but they could have called that 30-45 seconds earlier. Hoping I get lucky here, turning out to be a disastrous card gambing wise for me right now
ETA: Arrghhhh. Called it at 2:17 of the 2nd round
Isn't it?
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
99.9% sure it's time into the round, not time remaining. If it's a 30 second KO they don't say "at 4:30 of the first round"I hope so, I was just trying to think if that was 2:17 into the 2nd round, or 2:17 left. Book hasn't processed it yet...That's a win, mo.Had under 1.5 rounds in this Samman-Casey fight. I didn't catch the time it ended, but they could have called that 30-45 seconds earlier. Hoping I get lucky here, turning out to be a disastrous card gambing wise for me right now
ETA: Arrghhhh. Called it at 2:17 of the 2nd round
Isn't it?
modogg
Footballguy
Yeah, good call on the example there. Makes me like 2-4 so far this evening, let's hope big dope Bubba can do his thing and a couple of these other one's can work out. Contemplating tailing Hooter's Gonzaga call because i am not convinced Browne is that much better, but I just don't have a ton of faith in Gonzaga either.99.9% sure it's time into the round, not time remaining. If it's a 30 second KO they don't say "at 4:30 of the first round"I hope so, I was just trying to think if that was 2:17 into the 2nd round, or 2:17 left. Book hasn't processed it yet...That's a win, mo.Had under 1.5 rounds in this Samman-Casey fight. I didn't catch the time it ended, but they could have called that 30-45 seconds earlier. Hoping I get lucky here, turning out to be a disastrous card gambing wise for me right now
ETA: Arrghhhh. Called it at 2:17 of the 2nd round
Isn't it?
modogg
Footballguy
I am not good with MMA over/unders, but i think i will grab Hall/Kelvin over 2.5 rounds +160. I don't remember seeing Kelvin particularly rocked, and he isn't going to stand and trade with Hall for lonig periods. I see the fight going more like the Dylan-Hall fight where Hall is just significantly quicker and peppers him with jabs.
modogg
Footballguy
Alright bud, i will join along. I just read a few play-by-plays of the Miller-Bart fight. Seemed like a good one, have to imagine they want to squeeze that one on TV.
hooter311
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
Yeah, that was impressive by Browne, but looked to me like those elbows were to the back of the head. if they weren't that was some good power, but regardless of what dopey Kenny says, it looked like he was blasting him at the worst spot possible in the back of the head. but i only saw it once while i am eating here, so maybe i missed it
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Chael's voice goes straight to the part of my brain that generates headaches. 
Possum
Footballguy
there were about five elbows that landed in the final sequence - the first three were to the side and Gonzaga went limp on the third, then it looked like to me the last two were on the back of his head.
modogg
Footballguy
Ugh, the pacing of this card is horrible. I feel like Fox/FX is milking us for every dollar they can. They would do better to take a note from the Spike showings and not plug in so many commercials and breaks. I know they bills have to pay and everything, but with the Gonzaga fight going 30 seconds or so they couldn't show an earlier fight during this half-hour break between fights?
Possum
Footballguy
Chael's voice goes straight to the part of my brain that generates headaches.
I'm not a Sonnen hater but his schtick is getting pretty played out for me at this point.
hooter311
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
There is a shot of them in the comments section from this: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/4/13/4219350/tuf-17-finale-results-travis-browne-vs-gabriel-gonzaga-mma
Certainly sounds like a lot of Gonzaga fans in there, but they do look particularly bad. unfortunately the books were happy to grade it a loss, and i don't know if there will be much discussion since it seems that a lot agree with you that the first few were legal
modogg
Footballguy
You should see some of the women who are getting into MMA now, some definite hotties out there. Andbest round on the card so far. Hope the women can keep it up, but these ladies certainly come to fight. No way anybody can complain about this.
Cat loves that guillotine.
EYLive
Footballguy
That former cheerleader Rachel Wray is smokin, but probably sucks agains solid fighters.
modogg
Footballguy
This may go to a draw. I have tate up 2-0 going into the 3rd, but Cat is certainly dominating this 3rd to a point of 10-8.man this women's fight is freakin' awesome
Well, looks like it doesn't matter
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Tate should have kept her hand down on the mat after that first knee.
Then again, this ref Kim WInslow is a dip####.
Then again, this ref Kim WInslow is a dip####.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Pretty clear after the last or second-to-last knee that Tate was out on her feet.
Anyone here think Cat can hang with Ronda?
Anyone here think Cat can hang with Ronda?
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
TUF moving to Fox Sports 1 . I imagine some of us never found that TUF moved to FX from Spike.
How long til the UFC just creates their own channel??
. I imagine some of us never found that TUF moved to FX from Spike.How long til the UFC just creates their own channel??
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