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HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (4 Viewers)
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Maelstrom
Footballguy
I don't think so. Arry would have known Syrio, and she definitely did not know Jaqen H'gar. I do still think Syrio is alive and has a part to play in the story, but that could just be wishful thinking on my part. Edit: I forgot about Jaqen's little trick of rearranging his face, if that was the case maybe he could be Syrio, cause my logic would be flawed. I still don't think so...but it is possible.
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CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I don't think so. Arry would have known Syrio, and she definitely did not know Jaqen H'gar. I do still think Syrio is alive and has a part to play in the story, but that could just be wishful thinking on my part. Edit: I forgot about Jaqen's little trick of rearranging his face, if that was the case maybe he could be Syrio, cause my logic would be flawed. I still don't think so...but it is possible.
I believe Jaqen H'ghar is widely believed, among the Ice and Fire geeks, to be currently taking the form of Pate at the Citadel in Old Town, from the prologue to AFFC.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I don't think so. Arry would have known Syrio, and she definitely did not know Jaqen H'gar. I do still think Syrio is alive and has a part to play in the story, but that could just be wishful thinking on my part. Edit: I forgot about Jaqen's little trick of rearranging his face, if that was the case maybe he could be Syrio, cause my logic would be flawed. I still don't think so...but it is possible.
I believe Jaqen H'ghar is widely believed, among the Ice and Fire geeks, to be currently taking the form of Pate at the Citadel in Old Town, from the prologue to AFFC.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Did they explain why they went so far afield with their changes to the Renly character? I just don't understand that turn of poetic license, not that it's a huge deal, just seemed unnecessary and purposeless.Martin said he always intended for them to be gay. Perhaps the writers and producers thought it would be shocking and pushing the envelope (as HBO likes to do) to expound a bit on their romance. Its like 15:1 on the nude chicks to naked guy scenes so as a straight guy I can't really complain about that ratio there.I didn't pick up on this during my first reading of the series, but Martin definitely hinted at this in multiple places throughout the books. Rereading the series after seeing the Renly in the series, a few things really jump out at you.
During one feast, there was a comment that he was much more interested in talking to Ser Loras than his new young bride. Later on, there was a lot made of the fact that Margery was still a virgin despite having been married to Renly for several months before he died.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
so huge fn spoiler, and don't REALLY want the answer, but have to ask:
So, I just got to the chapter after Theon figures out where Bran and company are hiding and storms off and Tyrion receives a message bran and rickon have been killed.
WTF? I quickly scanned ahead/through Theon's next chapter, and sure enough, he beheaded their asses?
Really?
JFC Bran was one of my favorite story arcs.
WTF? I quickly scanned ahead/through Theon's next chapter, and sure enough, he beheaded their asses?
Really?
JFC Bran was one of my favorite story arcs.
The Gator
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
So you do, or do not want actual answers here?
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
So you do, or do not want actual answers here?sighi don't know. I am confused and hurt. I have a feeling I know where it is going
based on Jon's chapter close thereto
I shed a tear for those boys as I fell asleep last night.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
This is the best strategy, I recommend avoiding spoilers. I understand about venting as you read along, I've felt the same way too many times to count while reading these 5 books.
Maelstrom
Footballguy
I managed to make it through. I still think AFFC was the weakest of the 4 (5? - not done with ADWD yet)
the moops
Footballguy
So you do, or do not want actual answers here?Is it bad that I read all these spoilers and then go to the wiki page to read more? In a way, I dont care, but I feel as though I am ruining things for myself (I watched Game fo Thrones and am half way through the book).
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
So you do, or do not want actual answers here?
based on Jon's chapter close thereto
I shed a tear for those boys as I fell asleep last night.
Agreed, this part of the series made me the angriest.With that being said, with these books, you should never be asking others about stuff you haven't read about. Just read.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
mad sweeney
Footballguy
ADWD is by far the weakest imo.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
You are. Some of the twists are telegraphed, but some aren't (or at least I'm not bright enough to anticipate 1/2 of them). And for some of the drier stretches of the books those are the main payoff, so you're definitely short changing yourself by knowing them ahead of time.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I think A Feast For Crows was far and away the worst of the 5.
A better title would have been "Brienne and Jaime wander around aimlessly".
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JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
so, um, ya... 
Fn Grejoy
Fn Grejoy
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
So you do, or do not want actual answers here?
maybe a little. The up and down of those few chapters is pretty fn cool.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Considering I'm currently halfway through AFFC, this is very disappointing news.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Based on some of the casting I think they are going to combine a lot of Kings and Swords for the second season.
I put Swords down a week ago, not because it isn't interesting though, just been busy. Hopefully i pick it back up tonight.
I put Swords down a week ago, not because it isn't interesting though, just been busy. Hopefully i pick it back up tonight.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
wonder how they are going to do the attempted siege of Kings Landing (Stannis), from directing/production standpoint.
Seems like a pretty large undertaking, unless it's all CGI on the cheap.
Seems like a pretty large undertaking, unless it's all CGI on the cheap.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
The book presents pretty narrow perspectives on the battle from the characters' 1st person point of view (as always). I imagine they'll stick with that.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yep, in multiple locations.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
'Gr00vus said:
The book presents pretty narrow perspectives on the battle from the characters' 1st person point of view (as always). I imagine they'll stick with that.
Martin's writing that episode himself
Gr00vus
Footballguy
It's interesting how Martin keeps big events in the background, divulging only bits and pieces of them as they directly affect the characters.
You laugh, but it just means the next book will be delivered another 2 years later than it would have been.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Reginald Cornsilks
Footballguy
I've avoided this thread because I've always intended to read these books.
I almost always read non-fiction or historical fiction (i.e. Erik Larson) but decided to give the first book a go.
Love it. Very well written and interesting so far. Really impressive.
So does it get worse from here or better? Stay the same? Anyone want to rate each book? Just curious really.
I almost always read non-fiction or historical fiction (i.e. Erik Larson) but decided to give the first book a go.
Love it. Very well written and interesting so far. Really impressive.
So does it get worse from here or better? Stay the same? Anyone want to rate each book? Just curious really.
Reginald Cornsilks
Footballguy
Also - what about the prequel novellas? Worth tracking down?
The Gator
Footballguy
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
It gets better for at least two more books with a general consensus that #3 is the best in the series. After that, reviews are decidedly mixed in the most recent two. I liked them a lot but understand why some don't.As for the novellas, they're really good - not necessary to enjoy the main series but they give some background coloring to the series.
Reginald Cornsilks
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Well ####, looks like I have 3 more purchases to make. When should these be read?
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
LinkThere are 3 of them - "The Hedge Knight", "The Sworn Sword", and "The Mystery Knight". At the bottom of the linked page are the collections they're each a part of (you'll have to buy 3 different anthologies to collect the three novellas, though I think there are also graphic novels of some or all of them). They're collectively known as the Dunk and Egg stories and are set about 100 years before A Song Of Ice And Fire. There are events and characters in the novellas that are referenced in ASOIAF. Be careful on the link I sent - clicking through on anything may lead you to all kinds of spoilers.
jamny
Footballguy
Just finished the 3rd episode(Lord Snow). I'm liking it but hope it starts to move forward soon. I understand that with the amount of characters that there is a lot of time needed for setup and I've heard enough good things about the show to know it gets better.
I'm following along with this thread in it's original timeline along with the episodes. Thanks to all of those who supplied such valuable info to those of us who haven't read the books and especially for avoiding giving any spoilers. At least as far as I've read so far (page 10)
I'm following along with this thread in it's original timeline along with the episodes. Thanks to all of those who supplied such valuable info to those of us who haven't read the books and especially for avoiding giving any spoilers. At least as far as I've read so far (page 10)
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It definitely speeds up. Ep 3 was the most confusing, lots of setup. The next 7 episodes are loaded with twists, turns, and shocking scenes. I'd just be very careful in this thread. There are some moments best left unspoiled.Just finished the 3rd episode(Lord Snow). I'm liking it but hope it starts to move forward soon. I understand that with the amount of characters that there is a lot of time needed for setup and I've heard enough good things about the show to know it gets better. I'm following along with this thread in it's original timeline along with the episodes. Thanks to all of those who supplied such valuable info to those of us who haven't read the books and especially for avoiding giving any spoilers. At least as far as I've read so far (page 10)
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I'm new to the thread because I just finished the first season of Game. Here's an article on the season 2 characters if you're interested:
http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/cable/hbo/game-of-thrones/game-thrones-meet-faces-season-2/86984
Game of Thrones: Meet the New Faces of Season 2
http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/cable/hbo/game-of-thrones/game-thrones-meet-faces-season-2/86984
Game of Thrones: Meet the New Faces of Season 2
jamny
Footballguy
Will do...thx. So far you guys have been very cool with spoiler tags from what I've read. If that changes, I'll revisit the thread when I'm done. btw - I'm watching it on DirecTV HBO OnDemand. I was waiting for them to add it and they finally did. I'm guessing you guys are probably aware of that but just in case you weren't...It definitely speeds up. Ep 3 was the most confusing, lots of setup. The next 7 episodes are loaded with twists, turns, and shocking scenes. I'd just be very careful in this thread. There are some moments best left unspoiled.Just finished the 3rd episode(Lord Snow). I'm liking it but hope it starts to move forward soon. I understand that with the amount of characters that there is a lot of time needed for setup and I've heard enough good things about the show to know it gets better.
I'm following along with this thread in it's original timeline along with the episodes. Thanks to all of those who supplied such valuable info to those of us who haven't read the books and especially for avoiding giving any spoilers. At least as far as I've read so far (page 10)
Reginald Cornsilks
Footballguy
No ability to get HBOGO?Will do...thx. So far you guys have been very cool with spoiler tags from what I've read. If that changes, I'll revisit the thread when I'm done. btw - I'm watching it on DirecTV HBO OnDemand. I was waiting for them to add it and they finally did. I'm guessing you guys are probably aware of that but just in case you weren't...It definitely speeds up. Ep 3 was the most confusing, lots of setup. The next 7 episodes are loaded with twists, turns, and shocking scenes. I'd just be very careful in this thread. There are some moments best left unspoiled.Just finished the 3rd episode(Lord Snow). I'm liking it but hope it starts to move forward soon. I understand that with the amount of characters that there is a lot of time needed for setup and I've heard enough good things about the show to know it gets better.
I'm following along with this thread in it's original timeline along with the episodes. Thanks to all of those who supplied such valuable info to those of us who haven't read the books and especially for avoiding giving any spoilers. At least as far as I've read so far (page 10)
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I'd say that people who haven't read book 2 to be careful about spoilers here. There's nothing really earth shattering and no real plot secrets given out, but there could be a few hints. Of course, it's my opinion that if you're a stickler about spoilers, this thread is a little dangerous anyways.eta: I spoke too soon. There are plot points given out, though not huge ones. Still, it's more than I'd care for if I hadn't read the books.
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jamny
Footballguy
On Directv?No ability to get HBOGO?Will do...thx. So far you guys have been very cool with spoiler tags from what I've read. If that changes, I'll revisit the thread when I'm done. btw - I'm watching it on DirecTV HBO OnDemand. I was waiting for them to add it and they finally did. I'm guessing you guys are probably aware of that but just in case you weren't...It definitely speeds up. Ep 3 was the most confusing, lots of setup. The next 7 episodes are loaded with twists, turns, and shocking scenes. I'd just be very careful in this thread. There are some moments best left unspoiled.Just finished the 3rd episode(Lord Snow). I'm liking it but hope it starts to move forward soon. I understand that with the amount of characters that there is a lot of time needed for setup and I've heard enough good things about the show to know it gets better.
I'm following along with this thread in it's original timeline along with the episodes. Thanks to all of those who supplied such valuable info to those of us who haven't read the books and especially for avoiding giving any spoilers. At least as far as I've read so far (page 10)
