Stinger Ray
Footballguy
What about " A Lonely Place", "Since I Don't Have You", and "This Magic Moment"?
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☞ Official SOPRANOS Thread (3 Viewers)
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Stinger Ray
Footballguy
Did anyone notice the two red dots that show up on Tony as he enters the diner? One is on his gut where junior shot him and the other is near his temple where he could have been shot by the guy coming out of the bathroom.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
You people claiming Tony is alive consider this:
In the diner, he orders from the menu Famous Onion Rings With "Tony Isn't Dead" Sauce.
In the diner, he orders from the menu Famous Onion Rings With "Tony Isn't Dead" Sauce.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
I have to assume that Chase has/had at least a rough draft of the future and fate of Tony Soprano; be it ending that night in the diner, him dying at 85, retired in Boca or at any number of points in between. He knows......and while I get the idea that people think that the ending his symbolic of Tony continuing his family life and career all the while looking over his shoulder as the "stereotypes" of whom he has screwed over swarm around him in the diner.....I just don't see how that abrupt ending jibes with this. Isn't that sudden ending the sticking point? Would anyone think that Tony was shot if the camera panned out of the diner into the street? Would anyone think that Tony wasn't shot if the camera nailed a close up of a determined look on Members Only's face as he exited the bathroom? It's the ending....the last second. So to me, there's only two reasons to do it that way.....
1) to symbolize what Tony and Bobby talked about in regards to death as Tony is getting plugged by Members Only.
2) Chase is a #### and he doesn't want to commit.
1) to symbolize what Tony and Bobby talked about in regards to death as Tony is getting plugged by Members Only.
2) Chase is a #### and he doesn't want to commit.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
What do you want though....Butchie cackling, back slapping Members Only while looking over a Rube Goldberg style machine blueprint labeled " How to Kill Tony Soprano"? There's at least a couple of times (Carmine "ordering" the hit on Johnny Sack) in this show where it's what's NOT said that's more important than what is said.
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GTBilly
Footballguy
It was the Russian that killed Tony, ya THAT Russian. He finally wandered out of the freakin woods and he stopped for the rings. I gotta ask why is everyone pointing out facts that Tony is dead? Someone come up with a compelling "Alive" argument. BTW Pine Barrens is on Ch 599 right now.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
While also leaving himself an out in the event that they want to make a "Sopranos" movie down the road a ways and not have it be a prequel.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Top 5 favorite episode, but I still hate the way his footprints just STOPPED with no body. Short of carrying a Bat-a-rang and having the ability to fly from tree to tree, this is physically impossible.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I doubt there's a movie. Tony dead or alive, there isn't much story left to tell. It would have to be a totally new set of circumstances. The black meant "The End" it's just whether it was the end of Tony Soprano or the Sopranos alone.
William Munny
Footballguy
Love to see a prequel movie. Tony and Jackie making their way up the ranks, meeting and courting Carmella, etc...
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Thunderlips
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins said:
IIRC, there's a lot of time between seasons that isn't accounted for. Maybe they'd run a movie during this timeframe?......Leeroy Jenkins said:
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
If they did this right I would love it too.William Munny said:
Seeing guys like Paulie and Uncle Junior back in the 70s and 80s would be great.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
That would be cool, but they wouldn't be able to use the actors from the show, right? I mean, CGI isn't that good.William Munny said:
Edie Falco and Gandolfini playing the 17 year old versions of their characters...I don't know if on the microscopic chance they decided to do a movie that a studio would greenlight it without Falco, Gandolfini, Sirico, etc.. being involved.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Yeah....I'd imagine they'd want the A-List Sopranos crew ( Christopah, Sil, ####,) as opposed to the ham n eggers that would be in a true sequel.That would be cool, but they wouldn't be able to use the actors from the show, right? I mean, CGI isn't that good.William Munny said:
I don't know if on the microscopic chance they decided to do a movie that a studio would greenlight it without Falco, Gandolfini, Sirico, etc.. being involved.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I guess we could still have Silvio (he wasn't clinically dead, right?), Tony, Carmela, Meadow, AJ, Paulie, Carmine, Patsy, Butchie, Janice (ugh), maybe even Junior and Furio could come back - who else survived the show?Yeah....I'd imagine they'd want the A-List Sopranos crew ( Christopah, Sil, ####,) as opposed to the ham n eggers that would be in a true sequel.That would be cool, but they wouldn't be able to use the actors from the show, right? I mean, CGI isn't that good.William Munny said:
I don't know if on the microscopic chance they decided to do a movie that a studio would greenlight it without Falco, Gandolfini, Sirico, etc.. being involved.
ETA : Hesh and Artie Bucco too.
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Thunderlips
Footballguy
Come on...that's like making a movie about the Four Horseman starring Paul Roma, Mongo McMichael, Sid Justice and Lex Lugar instead of Flair, Blanchard and Ole and Arn Anderson.I guess we could still have Silvio (he wasn't clinically dead, right?), Tony, Carmela, Meadow, AJ, Paulie, Carmine, Patsy, Butchie, Janice (ugh), maybe even Junior and Furio could come back - who else survived the show?Yeah....I'd imagine they'd want the A-List Sopranos crew ( Christopah, Sil, ####,) as opposed to the ham n eggers that would be in a true sequel.That would be cool, but they wouldn't be able to use the actors from the show, right? I mean, CGI isn't that good.William Munny said:
I don't know if on the microscopic chance they decided to do a movie that a studio would greenlight it without Falco, Gandolfini, Sirico, etc.. being involved.
ETA : Hesh and Artie Bucco too.
They'd need the top dogs of the Soprano Family....not Vinny Delpino and Little Paulie.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Who would they be missing that were major players throughout the series? Baccala, Christopher - who else? Most of the other characters came and went - Big ####, Adrianna, Ralph, Tony B, The Apriles, etc...all got killed off and the show moved on without them. They could always introduce some new antagonists to complement what's left. Not saying it's a great idea, but it could definitely be done.Come on...that's like making a movie about the Four Horseman starring Paul Roma, Mongo McMichael, Sid Justice and Lex Lugar instead of Flair, Blanchard and Ole and Arn Anderson.I guess we could still have Silvio (he wasn't clinically dead, right?), Tony, Carmela, Meadow, AJ, Paulie, Carmine, Patsy, Butchie, Janice (ugh), maybe even Junior and Furio could come back - who else survived the show?Yeah....I'd imagine they'd want the A-List Sopranos crew ( Christopah, Sil, ####,) as opposed to the ham n eggers that would be in a true sequel.That would be cool, but they wouldn't be able to use the actors from the show, right? I mean, CGI isn't that good.William Munny said:
I don't know if on the microscopic chance they decided to do a movie that a studio would greenlight it without Falco, Gandolfini, Sirico, etc.. being involved.
ETA : Hesh and Artie Bucco too.
They'd need the top dogs of the Soprano Family....not Vinny Delpino and Little Paulie.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
True....I just think that when one thinks of the Sopranos....they're thinking Tony, Big P, Paulie, Sil and Christopah as the definitive Sopranos lineup.Who would they be missing that were major players throughout the series? Baccala, Christopher - who else? Most of the other characters came and went - Big ####, Adrianna, Ralph, Tony B, The Apriles, etc...all got killed off and the show moved on without them. They could always introduce some new antagonists to complement what's left. Not saying it's a great idea, but it could definitely be done.Come on...that's like making a movie about the Four Horseman starring Paul Roma, Mongo McMichael, Sid Justice and Lex Lugar instead of Flair, Blanchard and Ole and Arn Anderson.I guess we could still have Silvio (he wasn't clinically dead, right?), Tony, Carmela, Meadow, AJ, Paulie, Carmine, Patsy, Butchie, Janice (ugh), maybe even Junior and Furio could come back - who else survived the show?Yeah....I'd imagine they'd want the A-List Sopranos crew ( Christopah, Sil, ####,) as opposed to the ham n eggers that would be in a true sequel.That would be cool, but they wouldn't be able to use the actors from the show, right? I mean, CGI isn't that good.William Munny said:
I don't know if on the microscopic chance they decided to do a movie that a studio would greenlight it without Falco, Gandolfini, Sirico, etc.. being involved.
ETA : Hesh and Artie Bucco too.
They'd need the top dogs of the Soprano Family....not Vinny Delpino and Little Paulie.
Kind of like Godfather. I'd have rather seen either a prequel of sorts for GFIII (the rise of VIto Corleone) instead of a new adventure for Michael Corleone with Richard Hamilton "style" characters.
I actually think the Sopranos suffered a bit from basically "templating" the same antagonist every year....(Richie/Ralphie/Feech/Tony Blundetto). To do that again for a movie...I don't know.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Well, you could still have 3 of that 5 if Tony didn't get killed and Silvio pulls through. Big P died fairly early on, you only had 4 of those 5 for most of the series.True....I just think that when one thinks of the Sopranos....they're thinking Tony, Big P, Paulie, Sil and Christopah as the definitive Sopranos lineup.Who would they be missing that were major players throughout the series? Baccala, Christopher - who else? Most of the other characters came and went - Big ####, Adrianna, Ralph, Tony B, The Apriles, etc...all got killed off and the show moved on without them. They could always introduce some new antagonists to complement what's left. Not saying it's a great idea, but it could definitely be done.Come on...that's like making a movie about the Four Horseman starring Paul Roma, Mongo McMichael, Sid Justice and Lex Lugar instead of Flair, Blanchard and Ole and Arn Anderson.I guess we could still have Silvio (he wasn't clinically dead, right?), Tony, Carmela, Meadow, AJ, Paulie, Carmine, Patsy, Butchie, Janice (ugh), maybe even Junior and Furio could come back - who else survived the show?Yeah....I'd imagine they'd want the A-List Sopranos crew ( Christopah, Sil, ####,) as opposed to the ham n eggers that would be in a true sequel.That would be cool, but they wouldn't be able to use the actors from the show, right? I mean, CGI isn't that good.William Munny said:
I don't know if on the microscopic chance they decided to do a movie that a studio would greenlight it without Falco, Gandolfini, Sirico, etc.. being involved.
ETA : Hesh and Artie Bucco too.
They'd need the top dogs of the Soprano Family....not Vinny Delpino and Little Paulie.
Kind of like Godfather. I'd have rather seen either a prequel of sorts for GFIII (the rise of VIto Corleone) instead of a new adventure for Michael Corleone with Richard Hamilton "style" characters.
I actually think the Sopranos suffered a bit from basically "templating" the same antagonist every year....(Richie/Ralphie/Feech/Tony Blundetto). To do that again for a movie...I don't know.
I do agree, though, I doubt there will ever be a movie. If there was, I think a prequel is a more interesting idea, I just don't see how they get a studio to back a Sopranos movie with NONE of the actors from the series in it. I don't know if a movie bridging the gap between two seasons of the show works because there's very little suspense - the moviegoer already knows going in who is/isn't going to survive and how any storylines they introduce are ultimately going to play out.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Yeah, Carmela begging Tony for sex in the back parking lot of Pizza World following his beatdown of Dominic Tedesco would make for great TV.William Munny said:
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
sheerterror
Footballguy
I'd love to see Richie take "THE JACKETTTTTTTTTTTTTT" off Rocco Dimaio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTRUwnrsIJs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTRUwnrsIJs
Premier
Footballguy
But I asked Chase last night about his future plans at the Not Fade Away after party at Brasserie 8 1/2. What about a Sopranos movie, I asked. No, unh uh, he said, shaking his head, and his wife even agreed. I did try to slip inthose people are deadbut Chase refuses to say what happened to Tony, Carmella, Meadow and AJ.
He did tell me that theres been talk at HBO of a Sopranos prequel. It would be with Tonys father, and Uncle Junior, and LiviaTonys mother long before any of the other characters we know now. Great idea. But Chase has some other ideas. He has a series in mind with HBO about the silent film era. He also would like to make a psychological thriller. At 67, Chase is a newcomer to films, but a welcome one.
He did tell me that theres been talk at HBO of a Sopranos prequel. It would be with Tonys father, and Uncle Junior, and LiviaTonys mother long before any of the other characters we know now. Great idea. But Chase has some other ideas. He has a series in mind with HBO about the silent film era. He also would like to make a psychological thriller. At 67, Chase is a newcomer to films, but a welcome one.
butcher boy
Footballguy
Young Tony = Daniel Day Lewis
Young Carmella = Snooki
Younger Paulie = Will Ferrell
Younger Silvio = Shia LaBoof
Younger Corrado = Ryan Gosling
Young Carmella = Snooki
Younger Paulie = Will Ferrell
Younger Silvio = Shia LaBoof
Younger Corrado = Ryan Gosling
William Munny
Footballguy
Ha ha so awesome
butcher boy
Footballguy
1. Whose voice was that as Tony's wife during the Kevin Finnerty near death experience? Adrianna? Artie Buco's wife?
2. Was that heaven or hell that Tony was close to entering before waking up?
2. Was that heaven or hell that Tony was close to entering before waking up?
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
The credits list "fake Carmella" as being played by Wendy Hammers.
As far as #2 goes...I guess that was left ambiguous on purpose. One could argue either way.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I don't think there were many terrible episodes from start to finish, but there were certainly slow/boring/uninteresting segments in each episode. I tend to skip almost every therapy session scene with Melfi, for instance. And AJ's whining in the later episodes were almost unbearable. As if that snot-nosed loser would have ANY shot with Dania Ramirez in the first place.
But the "mob action" has held up well over time. All of the scenes at the Bing, Tony garroting Febby Petrulio, Christufah mugging Lauren Bacall, Richie being fantastically combative with everyone, and Paulie doing.... anything.
But the "mob action" has held up well over time. All of the scenes at the Bing, Tony garroting Febby Petrulio, Christufah mugging Lauren Bacall, Richie being fantastically combative with everyone, and Paulie doing.... anything.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Do you think much of that is intentional? In other words, we are supposed to despise most of these people?
Or do you have a problem with the actors who play those characters?
William Munny
Footballguy
You can't hate Sil or Uncle Jun or Paulie
GTBilly
Footballguy
I know it's intentional. The only one I could see being a donk is AJ but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say it is brilliant acting.
I do hate JR. I think he's not nearly the hard ### he needed to be, unless you count the young JR in the flashbacks who is a badass.
Silvio is likeable but Paulie is a wimp. The one problem I saw with most of the mobsters was the lack of viciousness they had most of the time. The best way to describe it would be compare the crews in The Sopranos to Casino or Goodfellows.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I hated that Goodfellows crew... the way they extended their pinkies when drinking tea.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
That's an unfair comparison considering most of the time we saw Nicky's crew working in Casino, they were killing people or beating the hell out of someone. And a film like Casino was focused more on the violence and out-of-control nature of Nicky than The Sopranos, which was more centered around Tony Soprano's crew, family and his internal problems. The Sopranos was a show about a mob guy, but we rarely saw acts of extreme violence by anyone (even the hits were usually very brief).
Plus, the crews in both Scorsese films had very few redeeming characteristics as shown to us. Meanwhile, Tony's crew, despite the nature of what they do, came off as fairly likable early on, but slowly became unlikable over time. They didn't bludgeon you over the head with their violence acts on screen for the sake of shock value or to demonstrate how they handled their business with two-minute "let's show the crew killing random people in several random scenes" montages.
GTBilly
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Gotta love Albert "The Parrot" Barese.
"He's in no position to go into the unknown not knowing."
"Imagine... gettin' a facelift, and one week later you're in jail."
"Can you imagine that? You get a facelift and one week later you're in jail?"
The look on Richie's face after that comment is priceless.
Ally Boy isn't on Little Carmine's level of stupid, but then again... who is?
"He's in no position to go into the unknown not knowing."
"Imagine... gettin' a facelift, and one week later you're in jail."
"Can you imagine that? You get a facelift and one week later you're in jail?"
The look on Richie's face after that comment is priceless.
Ally Boy isn't on Little Carmine's level of stupid, but then again... who is?
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Skip, to FBI Chief Cubitoso: "Sure, Sal was a little jittery when we ran into Jimmy Bones at the party store. And yeah, he was afraid that Jimmy figured out he was cooperating. But he couldn't POSSIBLY have been the one who bashed in Jimmy's skull the very next day."
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Still one of my favorite scenes ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SBYrKEakr4Q#t=454s
I love the music playing in the background the whole time .
"You, Mr. Rude ##########, *cues Elvis voice" see ya around, baby."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SBYrKEakr4Q#t=454s
I love the music playing in the background the whole time .
"You, Mr. Rude ##########, *cues Elvis voice" see ya around, baby."
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
You know what really bugs me? Kufferberg and his water bottle. WTF, dude?
