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IDP 2007 NFL Draft Thread

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2.62 -- DAN BAZUIN -- Chicago Bears

Tweener end prospect who probably doesn't fit as a SLB in this scheme. Probably goes into a deep end rotation.

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2.46 -- LAMARR WOODLEY -- Pittsburgh Steelers

Another guy with some positional versatility between a 3-4 rush OLB and a 4-3 DE with a skill set typical of a Tampa-2 DE -- hustling edge rusher with questionable run support skills on the end. Not a whole lot of value in standard leagues as a 3-4 OLB, but is another guy who might be an interesting buy low toward the end of 2007.

It'll be interesting to see what Tomlin has to say as time goes by about these guys and if the possible transition comes up in the discussion. He's not saying much on ESPN.

Yeah, he was pretty close to the vest. The "fresh legs" comment I thought was the most telling -- it's early but it looks like Kiesel will stay at DE rather than move to a hybrid DE/OLB while and the defense will mix up the fronts as far as edge rushing goes.

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2.64 -- SABBY PISCATELLI -- Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Strong safety prospect with good zone coverage. Always around the ball. Could challenge Jermaine Phillips, who was in danger of losing his job mid-season last year, for the starting SS job in camp.

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interesting IDP for the Bucs with the last pick of the 2nd round

Sabby Piscitelli, S/OLB, Oregon State

great size at almost 6'3", 225lbs. sounds like an Adam Archuleta type who will be a liability in coverage in the secondary, but can be a force against the run. still a work in progress though.

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3.65 -- QUENTIN MOSES -- Oakland Raiders

High upside/high bust potential. Will challenge Tyler Brayton early. Could potentially mean a shift to the strong side for Derrick Burgess, who would be better in run support. Could also be little more than a situational rusher.

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DE Quentin Moses to Oakland at pick 3.01

pass-rush specialist who dropped due to some concerns about his motivation. great athlete but had a disappointing senior season.

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3.68 -- QUINCY BLACK -- Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Excellent fit in a Tampa-2. Would have liked to have seen him in a better situation for IDP purposes as he's stuck behind three solid linebackers this season and you'd have to think Cato June is the early favorite at WLB when Derrick Brooks moves on. Still, June is essentially on a one year deal. Black could surprise in time.

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3.69 -- BUSTER DAVIS -- Arizona Cardinals

Improves the ILB depth as the Cardinals move to a 3-4 but is probably stuck behind Gerald Hayes and Karlos Dansby. Kind of poor man's London Fletcher -- has okay speed and range and solid in coverage. Could possibly challenge for the WLB job in the 4-3, but more likely just depth for now.

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3.72 -- MARCUS MCCAULEY -- Minnesota Vikings

Another nice fit at corner for a Tampa-2 team. Unfortunately, it's with a team that already has two nice fits at CB. Will be a good third corner behind Antoine Winfield and Cedric Griffin for now. Pretty good value here with some IDP value in future seasons if he can push someone out of a starting role.

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Scott Linehan says Carriker will play inside.

Although Carriker played defensive end for the Cornhuskers, Linehan expects him to play defensive tackle and possibly nose tackle for the Rams.

“I tried to keep this somewhat of a secret; he was the guy I was hoping would be there,” Linehan said. “I thought it was be 50-50 if he would be there. There were two other teams that showed quite a bit of interest in him.”

Carriker confirmed the Rams’ interest. “They told me they would take me at 13 if I was there,” Carriker said. “I couldn’t be more excited or thrilled.”

He is listed at 6-foot-6 and 300 pounds. Carriker noted that he wasn’t a pure pass rushing defensive end or a pure run-stopping interior lineman.

“I can do both things,” he said. “I’m a big, strong guy that can run fast.”

Linehan loves his versatility. “In a crunch, he could probably play every position for us on the defensive line,” he said. “The great thing about Adam is he fills a lot of categories for us.”

The Rams expect Carriker to add another 10 to 15 pounds before training camp. Linehan rates run stopping as his biggest strength.

“He played end (at Nebraska), but he also played inside on third down,” he said. “He played inside in short yardage.”

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Not much on Durant yet.

Durant was a tackling machine in college. When he ran a 4.51 at the scouting combine, the Jaguars became very interested. Durant said he expects to play weakside linebacker for the Jaguars.

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3.83 -- CHARLES JOHNSON -- Carolina Panthers

Like Jamaal Anderson, Johnson has big upside as a two-way end and will be the heir to Mike Rucker's LDE position. That could be sooner than later. Excellent value in the third round. Could have big IDP upside if he can improve his pass rush skills enough to reach double digit sacks. Aligning opposite Julius Peppers can only help.

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3.87 -- STEWART BRADLEY -- Philadelphia Eagles

Very good player and the best SLB in the draft. Signals the end of Dhani Jones finally. Will force Chris Gocong into moving back into a crowded DE rotation or relegate him to the bench as a situational pass rusher at LB. He's ready to play and likely confirms Takeo Spikes at WLB with Trotter and Gaither competing in the middle. Although it's possible he may end up in a three down role, Stewart will probably struggle to have Thomas Davis upside.

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3.89 -- AARON ROUSE -- Green Bay Packers

In-the-box type player whose athleticism doesn't translate as well to the field as some scouts would like. Some have compared him to Adrian Wilson. Has some work to do to become a solid NFL player, but could be a nice IDP value in Green Bay if he can beat out Marquand Manuel. Would have liked to see him in Carolina but this could do fine.

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3.94 -- MICHAEL OKWO -- Chicago Bears

Interesting undersized prospect who could compete with Leon Joe and Jamar Williams for the starting Will job if Lance Briggs moves elsewhere.

3.95 -- DAYMEION HUGHES -- Indianapolis Colts

Excellent zone defender with good instincts and ball skills. Perfect fit for a Cover-2 team. Above average run supporter. He and Marlin Jackson could provide two very good IDP options this season if they win starting roles.

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3.96 -- ANTHONY WATERS -- San Diego Chargers

As usual, some of the best IDP prospects come off the board in the middle rounds. Waters is an excellent 3-4 ILB prospect who could challenge for the LILB job this year. Fell as a prospect after tearing his ACL early his senior season. Could throw a wrench into the Charger ILB lineup sooner than later but may only be a two down guy.

3.97 -- RAY MCDONALD -- San Francisco 49ers

Niners getting better everywhere as well. McDonald will be a very good 3-4 end and could have Luis Castillo, Ty Warren like potential.

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Okwo will be starting for the Bears by 2008.

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Interesting names with potential IDP value still on the board:

CB Michael Coe

CB Travarous Bain

Both could have decent value in Cover-2 schemes.

OLB Earl Everett

OLB Rufus Alexander

OLB Rory Johnson

OLB Juwan Simpson

And a few other undersized OLB who could end up in decent situations.

ILB Brandon Siler

ILB HB Blades

ILB Justin Warren

ILB Zak DeOssie

ILB Desmond Bishop

S Tanard Jackson

S John Wendling

S Josh Gattis

S Michael Johnson

S Kevin Payne

S Melvin Bullitt

Ideal openings still VACANT:

Carolina SS

Detroit MLB

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The most interesting IDP notes from my pow, is how will the Safety situation play out in SD and who will man the middle in BUF.

Both are worth monitoring closely.

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2.58 -- IKAIKA ALAMA-FRANCIS -- Detroit Lions

Now we're getting somewhere. Wide open on the strong side end in Detroit in a scheme where the ends have to put pressure on the QB. Very raw player who just recently grew into his now 250 pound plus frame. May have the highest upside of any end in the draft. If he can improve in run support and continue to grow as a pass rusher, this guy could be a steal in all leagues. As is, could the Mark Anderson of 2007.

I love this pick by the Lions. I was wondering if he would slide to their 3rd round pick, and then they traded up to take him. The athletic ability and big motor stand out. He is extremely raw, but Marinelli is a defensive line guru, and he has to be excited like a kid at Christmas over this guy. He is talented and has a ton of upside.

By the way, nfl.com lists him at 250 pounds, but in their notes on him, and everywhere else I have read, he is 280 pounds. Bloom also has him listed at 280 at nfldraftguys.com in his analysis of him. He has a DE's body. His hard work in the weight room paid off.

Even though he is raw, in the long run, I think this pick will turn into a huge steal for the Lions.

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The Morning After (Day One)

Rochester Democrat & Chronicle

"He [Posluszny] played them both and played them pretty well," said Jauron. "He's athletic and he's a smart guy, so we'll let him compete and see how it falls. We won't slot him to start out."

Meaning he could fit as London Fletcher's replacement in the middle, or Takeo Spikes' replacement on the outside.

"He's a terrific athlete who has really good instincts for the ball," said assistant general manager Tom Modrak. "He has a great nose for the ball, his drops in coverage are very good. We're very excited that he has a whole lot of talent and the intangibles that we talk about."

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Telling comment by Mike Tomlin on Lawrence Timmons (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette)

"He has some Derrick Brooks qualities," Tomlin said, referring to Tampa Bay's 10-time Pro Bowl linebacker who also played at Florida State. "You don't necessarily want to put that on anyone because Brooks is a legendary player, but he runs around and strikes people. He is relentless and he loves the game."

Kevin Colbert, the team's director of football operations, and Tomlin insisted Timmons was the player they wanted over others they thought they had a reasonable chance of drafting. They entertained one inquiry from another team before their pick, but quickly moved to send Timmons' name on a card to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in New York.

Tomlin also said firmly "we're a 3-4 team" and "he's a right outside linebacker."

As such, Timmons will compete with Harrison, who had moved into Porter's vacated spot at right outside linebacker this spring. Tomlin said Timmons also can play right rush end in a dime defensive scheme, a position Porter also played.

Tomlin praised Timmons' special teams play as well and said he also can play inside in a 3-4 defense if needed. If the Steelers ever move to a 4-3, they feel confident Timmons can play on the outside as well in that scheme.

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Titans obviously see Michael Griffin as an above average cover guy (The Tennessean)

Coach Jeff Fisher said Griffin’s versatility will be explored and exploited by the Titans as quickly as possible. Initial plans were for him to work at nickel cornerback, safety and cornerback.

“Our plans with Michael are to play him at a number of different positions,” Fisher said. “He’s a football player and we’re very excited to have had an opportunity to draft him.”

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Jarvis Moss to be a situational pass rusher (Denver Post)

With the Broncos, Moss will play on second-and-long and third-down passing situations. Considering Elvis Dumervil, a fourth-round pick last year, got 8 1/2 sacks for the Broncos as a rookie, is it unreasonable to expect 10 sacks from Moss next season?

"I expect to make an impact my rookie season," Moss said.

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Tom Kowalski (mlive.com blog)

The Lions did a fair amount of wheeling and dealing today, but they still failed to get a pass-rushing defensive end with some speed off the edge or a cornerback who could upgrade the starting position.

Having said that, Ikaika Alama-Francis is expected to give the Lions -- and this is one of your favorite terms -- position flexibility. He's not a great pass rusher at this point, but he's only been playing football for four years. The Lions believe he can play left end and also move inside in nickel situations. The coaches likened him to a young Cory Redding and that'll be fine if he develops into an experienced Cory Redding.

Alexander will be put in the mix at safety with Kennedy and Bullocks and the best two safeties will be named the starters. Alexander played corner for a couple of seasons before moving to safety last year so he has some coverage skills and could play some corner in zone coverage in a pinch.

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Looks like Jimmy Williams is moving to FS after all (Atlanta Journal-Constitution)

The Falcons are hoping that Houston can start at right cornerback. He'll have to hold off free-agent signee Lewis Sanders and incumbent Jason Webster. Jimmy Williams, who lined up at right cornerback during the April minicamp, will move to free safety and compete with Chris Crocker for the starting job.

Houston, who started to attract national attention after shutting down Southern California's Dwayne Jarrett last season, thinks he can start immediately opposite DeAngelo Hall.

"I know that DeAngelo Hall is a hard worker," Houston said. "I don't want to let him down or my teammates down by being anything less than he is. I'm just going to get in there and try to learn what he's doing, and I'm going to go as hard as he's going so we can be two of the best corners on the same team. Just locking people down."

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Oops, must've accidentally deleted this note on Beason.

Rock Hill Herald

After trading down to add a second-rounder earlier Saturday, the Panthers chose Miami's Jon Beason with the 25th overall pick. He'll likely replace Na'il Diggs as the starting weakside linebacker in the short term, but he provides valuable cover in case oft-injured middle linebacker Dan Morgan can't stay on the field.

Morgan's missed 40 of a possible 96 games the last six seasons because of injuries, and all but the first half of the opener last year with the latest in a series of concussions. They knew they needed to find an above-average replacement if the problem continued, and Beason was their guy.

"The position flexibility was the key," coach John Fox said.

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The Morning After (Day One)

Looks like Jimmy Williams is moving to FS after all (Atlanta Journal-Constitution)

The Falcons are hoping that Houston can start at right cornerback. He'll have to hold off free-agent signee Lewis Sanders and incumbent Jason Webster. Jimmy Williams, who lined up at right cornerback during the April minicamp, will move to free safety and compete with Chris Crocker for the starting job.

Houston, who started to attract national attention after shutting down Southern California's Dwayne Jarrett last season, thinks he can start immediately opposite DeAngelo Hall.

"I know that DeAngelo Hall is a hard worker," Houston said. "I don't want to let him down or my teammates down by being anything less than he is. I'm just going to get in there and try to learn what he's doing, and I'm going to go as hard as he's going so we can be two of the best corners on the same team. Just locking people down."

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Interesting. He does have the size and speed.

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4.102 -- BRIAN ROBISON -- Minnesota Vikings

Vikings trade up to grab a high motor end. Usual Tampa-2 DE profile -- solid edge rusher with limited potential in run support. Bloom thinks he's the Mark Anderson of this draft. Murphy compares him to Trent Cole. The comparisions are sound as he probably fits the same role Anderson and Cole did initially -- situational rusher with upside.

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2.46 -- LAMARR WOODLEY -- Pittsburgh Steelers

Another guy with some positional versatility between a 3-4 rush OLB and a 4-3 DE with a skill set typical of a Tampa-2 DE -- hustling edge rusher with questionable run support skills on the end. Not a whole lot of value in standard leagues as a 3-4 OLB, but is another guy who might be an interesting buy low toward the end of 2007.

It'll be interesting to see what Tomlin has to say as time goes by about these guys and if the possible transition comes up in the discussion. He's not saying much on ESPN.

Yeah, he was pretty close to the vest. The "fresh legs" comment I thought was the most telling -- it's early but it looks like Kiesel will stay at DE rather than move to a hybrid DE/OLB while and the defense will mix up the fronts as far as edge rushing goes.
What I'm wondering is, could Woodley turn into a Terrell Suggs?

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4.106 -- TANARD JACKSON -- Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Buccaneers are doing exactly what they need to do on defense. Could've traded the lot for Calvin Johnson; instead they pick up young talented players at DE, LB, and S (two now). Jackson played a lot of corner in college and is a Marlin Jackson like player. Most have projected him to safety, but could see time at corner especially in nickel packages. As we discussed earlier, the coaching staff comments that Jermaine Phillips and Will Allen were safe in their starting roles were completely bogus. Jackson could be a stud as a Tampa-2 CB or a so-so value at FS.

Good value here.

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4.109 -- STEPHEN NICHOLAS -- Atlanta Falcons

Undersized linebacker prospect who reads a lot like Demorrio Williams. Good fit in an aggressive Mike Zimmer scheme. Projects as depth and special teams help. Falcons to have a good young LB unit behind veteran leader Keith Brooking.

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4.116 -- ZAK DeOSSIE -- New York Giants

Decent size and speed guy who could compete with Gerris Wilkinson at WLB or possibly push Kawika Mitchell at SLB down the line if he improves in leverage and coverage.

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4.120 -- BARAKA ATKINS -- Seattle Seahawks

Athletic end with size who could take over at the strong side end with time. Decent upside if he can become a consistent pass rusher.

4.121 -- MARCUS THOMAS -- Denver Broncos

Worth mentioning as a fit in the Jim Bates scheme that values big DTs to protect the linebackers. If he works out here, he could be a big boost to DJ Williams (or whomever) in the middle. Unlikely to have much IDP value, even in DT specific leagues in this scheme. Denver re-making its DL in this draft -- no more Cleveland castoffs.

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4.132 -- RYAN MCBEAN -- Pittsburgh Steelers

Positional versatility!!!!

Tomlin is taking every player that fits both the 3-4 and 4-3 Tampa-2 he can find. McBean can be a very good 3-4 end and 4-3 undertackle. Another Steeler to keep an eye on toward the end of 2007 in case a position change occurs. Could be a stud in DT specific leagues in 2008.

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Who am I to question anything Shanahan and Denver do, but still I gotta say I'm a little disappointed in their draft. What was the trade up about ? Somewhere someone got a good laugh, I do like the Crowder pick though and was hoping for DL upgrades all along.

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Who am I to question anything Shanahan and Denver do, but still I gotta say I'm a little disappointed in their draft. What was the trade up about ? Somewhere someone got a good laugh, I do like the Crowder pick though and was hoping for DL upgrades all along.

Agree. :excited: I've not caught the explanation yet but suspect that there was some team lurking, some insidious influence, waiting to snatch their man at the 21st spot.Dallas?....who ended up trading down and taking Spencer at the 1.26 is the most likely.I'm not sure of the Tyler pick-up....time will tell. If he rooms with a mentor, he just might overcome his problems. A risky pic but the kid has the tools to be the best DT in this draft if he can stay clean.

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from the Buffalo News today:

While Jauron would not commit to a position for Posluszny, he is expected to play the middle in Buffalo, because incumbent Angelo Crowell is better suited to the strong side in the Bills defense.

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4.134 -- ANTWAN BARNES -- Baltimore Ravens

Just a placeholder comment. Undersized at 235 pounds, but has great measurables (4.5, 31 reps) with a history of solid defensive end play. Worth paying attention to any LB with pass rush skill that the Ravens draft now with Adalius Thomas gone and Ray Lewis on the decline. Needs work in pass coverage but could project into a Bart Scott role if you stretch the depth chart well into the future and hallucinate Scott taking Lewis' role.

5.150 -- JOSH GATTIS -- Jacksonville Jaguars

Stuck behind Donovin Darius and Reggie Nelson for now. Questionable scouting report in places, but could project down the line as a SS with some decent run stopping skills. May be still worth watching in deep dynasty leagues.

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5.158 -- JOHNNY BALDWIN -- Detroit Lions

Very little available on this guy but the Lions have a couple of suspect guys at MLB so I'm searching.

Huntsville Times

Alabama A&M inside linebacker Johnny Baldwin may have secured his draft status Tuesday when he wowed about a dozen scouts from the National Football League at the school's annual pro day.

Baldwin was one of 10 Bulldogs to work out for NFL scouts. A 6-foot-1, 232-pounder, Baldwin put up impressive numbers in front of representatives from the Carolina Panthers, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Kansas City Chiefs, Miami Dolphins, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, New York Giants, Oakland Raiders, Seattle Seahawks and Tennessee Titans.

Baldwin ran the 40-yard dash in 4.59 seconds, had a 38-inch vertical, 10-4 broad jump and bench-pressed 225 pounds 28 times.

"He was very impressive," A&M coach Anthony Jones said. "His stock should have gone up. Johnny has been working extremely hard and it showed (Tuesday). He's been blessed where he stayed healthy, and he's going to get an opportunity to fulfill his dream."

One liner on another scouting service reads "aggressive run-and-chase backer with the ability to backup in the NFL." And there's a message board thread that suggests the Colts' scouts were comparing him to Robert Mathis after his workout.

We'll see.

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5.164 -- TIM SHAW -- Carolina Panthers

Decent value and a guy who could fill Adam Seward's role as a swing backup at all three spots. Enough depth that Na'il Diggs could be let go if enough of the youngsters step up and plenty of hedge against Dan Morgan. Davis, Morgan, Beason, Diggs, Anderson, Shaw, Seward, Melton right now. Couple gotta go.

5.167 -- KEVIN PAYNE -- Chicago Bears

Most of the in-the-box safeties aren't landing in great roles. Scouts differ on Payne but most see him as needing improvement in coverage (somewhat like Adam Archuleta) and as a inconsistent tackler. Long term SS possibility here but not much more right now.

5.173 -- MICHAEL COE -- Indianapolis Colts

Another very solid, if raw, Cover-2 corner prospect to Indianapolis. It'll be interesting to see how this crew plays out.

5.176 -- RUFUS ALEXANDER -- Minnesota Vikings

Slippery slide for Alexander but the thump at the bottom was him landing on Chad Greenway's heels on the depth chart at WLB. Alexander has issues, but Greenway wasn't setting camp afire last year. Worth watching.

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5.179 -- HB BLADES -- Washington Redskins

Doesn't project well to the weak side according to most scouting services. Limited in coverage. Probably not an IDP option anytime soon in Washington.

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hate to bring up something from yesterday right now, but you guys really didn't say much about Harris to NYJ.

where do you see this guy fitting in? Hobson and Vilma are inside right now. We all know they don't like Barton that much and Thomas of course will stay at outside.

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hate to bring up something from yesterday right now, but you guys really didn't say much about Harris to NYJ.where do you see this guy fitting in? Hobson and Vilma are inside right now. We all know they don't like Barton that much and Thomas of course will stay at outside.

didn't Hobson play OLB?I think the starting lineup now is: Thomas/Barton/Vilma/Hobson but Harris will replace Barton at some point.

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