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:MERGED: J. Russell thread (1 Viewer)
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bostonfred
Footballguy
The selection of Russell leaves Johnson, the draft's top player on many team's boards, available when the Lions select second overall. The Lions are then expected to select a receiver in the first round for the fourth time in the past five years. Johnson could perhaps then be dealt to the Buccaneers, who reportedly have been in discussions with the Lions regarding the second pick
This is the right way to do it, IMO. Get the best player available, then wait to see if your second choice is there before you trade down.
This is the right way to do it, IMO. Get the best player available, then wait to see if your second choice is there before you trade down.
The Jacket
Footballguy
Of course it does. I've said this for months.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Tampa's no threat to take him?
HeirCoryell
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
If Thomas and CJ are gone, I think there's a chance.
3C's
Footballguy
Absolutely. I see the Lions taking CJ (if he's there at 2), the Bucs taking Adams, then a trade of those 2 picks with the Bucs second rounder thrown in.
TheBradyBunch
Footballguy
I think Gruden would fire himself if the Bucs took a QB in the 1st.
RBM
Footballguy
Who knows how long Martz will be there. I wouldnt plan on it being too long. Now Cleveland is the team I cant kill from taking what could be a dominant LT. Detroit taking Johnson is just horrible
TheBradyBunch
Footballguy
Blackjacks
Footballguy
Michael Smith is reporting on ESPN that Russell will be the first pick.
TheBradyBunch
Footballguy
Same guy that wrote the attached article, fwiw.
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
I can pretty much guess the Top 5 now:
1. Oakland- QB JaMarcus Russell
2. Detroit/Tampa- WR Calvin Johnson
3. Cleveland- LT Joe Thomas
4. Detroit/Tampa- DE Gaines Adams
5. Arizona- RB Adrian Peterson
However, if Arizona still has faith in Edge, Adrian Peterson could very well take a fall since there's no team until Buffalo at #12 that has an OBVIOUS need for a RB. Minnesota at #7 is a strong possibilty, as was Cleveland. If Buffalo decides not to trade up and lets AP fall to them, they will have finally got their franchise back and Rudnicki will probably giggle like a school girl. Ok, maybe not that last part....
1. Oakland- QB JaMarcus Russell
2. Detroit/Tampa- WR Calvin Johnson
3. Cleveland- LT Joe Thomas
4. Detroit/Tampa- DE Gaines Adams
5. Arizona- RB Adrian Peterson
However, if Arizona still has faith in Edge, Adrian Peterson could very well take a fall since there's no team until Buffalo at #12 that has an OBVIOUS need for a RB. Minnesota at #7 is a strong possibilty, as was Cleveland. If Buffalo decides not to trade up and lets AP fall to them, they will have finally got their franchise back and Rudnicki will probably giggle like a school girl. Ok, maybe not that last part....
RBM
Footballguy
Seriously, what the hell is Calvin Johnson going to do for Detroit? Be realistic. So they have Roy/Calvin. They still have a bad o-line, they still cant run the ball consistently, and they still suck on D, and they still have garbage at QB.Enjoy
redman
Footballguy
Unless you're talking about a truly elite RB talent, a good o-line is far more capable of making an average RB look good than the other way around. Peterson might be elite, but it's very hard to tell even with a guy as promising as he appears, and the added benefit that bolstering the line has is that it also directly protects the QB.
Toxic Gatorade
Footballguy
A Texans fan is still holding out hope that they don't trade down and that Adrian Peterson falls to them.....and that they take him.
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
Yeesh, if that happens, the Texans will have the following RB's on their roster:Adrian PetersonAhman GreenDomanick Davis/Whatever he's calling himselfWali LundySamkon GadoRon DayneI've heard of logjams at RB, but this would be insane. Considering Kubiak's a Mike Shanahan product, though, this shouldn't surprise me.
Warhogs
Footballguy
I would not be surprised to see Arizona go with Levi Brown or Laron Landry at that spot. Reports were they liked Brown better than Thomas and if he has been drafted they can take the T they liked best without being 2nd guessed.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Pretty sure Domanick is gone as is Dayne (did they resign him?)
Toxic Gatorade
Footballguy
I agree with you on the logjam.............but we have cut our ties with Dominack Davis Williams. His knee is shot and probably won't ever play again.But you gotta love the Kubiak mentality......stock pile the RBs.
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Davis is gone and Dayne, Gado and Lundy will be fighting for roster spots come pre-season with or without Peterson there.
Toxic Gatorade
Footballguy
Dayne was resigned to a 1 year deal earlier in the year.
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
Gotcha. Didn't read about Davis. You have to figure that Dayne's the long-shot to make the roster and, if they get AP, that Gado would be trade bait.
Capella
Footballguy
I agree, but it's funny as hell.
TheBradyBunch
Footballguy
If they take Thomas and pair him up with Steinbeck and with good luck maybe even Bentley can make it back from his injury, they would have the makings of a nice O'line. Grab a QB next year (or maybe Frye can turn it around with people blocking for him) and you can always get a passable RB from somewhere, Winslow & Braylon, you'd have a nice offense (on paper) in place.Unless you're talking about a truly elite RB talent, a good o-line is far more capable of making an average RB look good than the other way around. Peterson might be elite, but it's very hard to tell even with a guy as promising as he appears, and the added benefit that bolstering the line has is that it also directly protects the QB.
RBM
Footballguy
Not talking about quantity. Johnson is by no means a slam dunk gurantee to be better than Quinn or Thomas will be. So the Lions will have a couple of fun wrs with little else. Still wont translate to wins
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bostonfred
Footballguy
Raiders now denying that it's done. Ed Werder from ESPN says they've given a 20% chance that they'll trade.
TheBradyBunch
Footballguy
Johnson is the best and safest pick on the board. I think most "experts" would agree with that. If you don't think adding him to the Lions won't translate into wins...I think you're sadly mistaken. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one...Cleveland seems like a great fit for Joe Thomas. That's his kinda town and they even have a place for his boat!
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
If Trent green to Miami gets done, I really think Oakland either takes CJ or trades with Cleveland....
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
So if this all pans out Peterson goes to Vikings? At 7
At 5 Zona goes DL?
Quinn falls to 6 where Skins trade to Miami. Or is this maybe where the Briggs Trade comes in Bears would get Quinn??????? At 6
At 5 Zona goes DL?
Quinn falls to 6 where Skins trade to Miami. Or is this maybe where the Briggs Trade comes in Bears would get Quinn??????? At 6
massraider
Footballguy
I think Al will only trade down if he can really pull someone's pants down, and I don't think Cleveland is willing to let him do that. It's Russell. It's always been Russell.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
As long as Cleveland doesn't trade up I dont care who they take. THomas would probably be my first choice.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
let's hope not
massraider
Footballguy
If Millen takes and keeps CJ, he will definitely deserve some props. Gutsy move, he'd take some heat. I like the draft him, and try and trade him later idea.There's two guys I wanted the Bucs to end up with. Thomas or CJ. Now they may get neither. When did Detroit and Cleveland get a brain?
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
Sucks being a fan of both teams and wanting the same players for both.There's two guys I wanted the Bucs to end up with. Thomas or CJ. Now they may get neither. When did Detroit and Cleveland get a brain?
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
That is not good..if you trade him and he turns into the best WR in football you always have the stigma of dealing a HOF type player.If Millen takes and keeps CJ, he will definitely deserve some props. Gutsy move, he'd take some heat. I like the draft him, and try and trade him later idea.There's two guys I wanted the Bucs to end up with. Thomas or CJ. Now they may get neither. When did Detroit and Cleveland get a brain?
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massraider
Footballguy
Sure, but Millen is trying to put together a winner, not firm up his legacy as a brillant GM.Can his rep suffer any more? I don't think so. There's a certain freedom in that. He's got nothing to lose. If he can get a package that'll improve his team, do it.That is not good..if you trade him and he turns into the best WR in football you always have the stigma od dealing a HOF type player.If Millen takes and keeps CJ, he will definitely deserve some props. Gutsy move, he'd take some heat. I like the draft him, and try and trade him later idea.There's two guys I wanted the Bucs to end up with. Thomas or CJ. Now they may get neither. When did Detroit and Cleveland get a brain?
