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Jim Croce vs. Harry Chapin -- who ya like better?

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A few of Chapin's hits:

Taxi

W*O*L*D

Cat's in the Cradle

A few of Croce's hits:

Operator

Time in a Bottle

Bad, Bad Leroy Brown

I'll Have To Say I Love You In A Song

If I had to pick any of their combined songs at 1.01 in a music draft, I'd have to go with Taxi. GREAT tune.

Sadly, both men died very young in horrible accidents. :bag:

CHAPIN'S DEATH -- at 39 years of age

On July 16, 1981, just after noon, Chapin was driving on the Long Island Expressway, in the left hand fast lane, at about 65 miles an hour. For some reason, either because of engine failure or some physical problem (thought to be a possible heart attack) he put on his emergency flashers near Exit 40 in Jericho, NY. He then slowed to about 15 miles an hour and veered into the center lane nearly colliding with another car. He swerved left, then to the right again, ending up directly in front of a tractor-trailer truck. The truck could not brake in time and rammed the rear of Harry's blue 1975 Volkswagon Rabbit, rupturing the gas tank and causing it to burst into flames.The driver of the truck, and another passer-by were able to get Harry out of the burning car through the window and by cutting the seatbelts, before the car was completely engulfed in flames. He was taken by police helicopter to the hospital where ten doctors tried for 30 minutes to revive him. A spokesman for the Nassau County Medical Center said Chapin had suffered a heart attack and "died of cardiac arrest" but there was no way of knowing whether it occurred before or after the accident. In an interview years after his death, Chapin's daughter said "My dad didn't really sleep, and he ate badly and had a totally insane schedule."

CROCE'S DEATH -- at 30 years of age

Croce, 30, died in a small commercial plane crash on September 20, 1973, one day before his third ABC album, I Got a name, was to be released. Croce had just completed a concert in Louisiana, and was flying to Sherman, Texas. The pilot and all passengers were killed instantly at 10:45 PM EST on September 20, 1973, less than an hour after the end of their last concert. Upon takeoff, the plane did not gain enough altitude to clear an area of large pecan trees at the end of the runway. The official report from the NTSB hints that the charter pilot, Robert Newton Elliott, who had severe coronary artery disease and had run a portion of the 3 miles to the airport from a motel, may have suffered a heart attack causing him to crash into the trees on a clear runway with excellent visibility. A later investigation placed sole blame for the accident on pilot error.

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If I had to pick any of their combined songs at 1.01 in a music draft, I'd have to go with Taxi. GREAT tune.

That about sums it up for me in choosing Harry.Keep the change. :bag:

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If I had to pick any of their combined songs at 1.01 in a music draft, I'd have to go with Taxi. GREAT tune.

That about sums it up for me in choosing Harry.Keep the change. :bag:
That song always makes me want to roll one... :pickle:

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cat's in the cradle might make me cry. :bag:

Hey Dad, you wanna have a catch?

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cat's in the cradle might make me cry. :bag:

Hey Dad, you wanna have a catch?
killing me.

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If I had to pick any of their combined songs at 1.01 in a music draft, I'd have to go with Taxi. GREAT tune.

That about sums it up for me in choosing Harry.Keep the change. :2cents:
:bag: This is very tough, but I think Chapin was the superior songwriter.Mr. Tanner makes me :cry: every time. Edited by krista4

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Croce in a heartbeat

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Trivia: Jim Croce's success allowed his producers to form a record label, Lifesong which debuted my favorite group which most of you probably never heard of Crack The Sky.

More Trivia: The groups leader, John Palumbo was T.O.'s neighbor when T.O. was playing for the Eagles.

Here is a bit of a write up about the song below-

The relationship further deteriorated when Cashman and West heard the song that was to be the single, "We Want Mine." It was a devastating attack on the label for not paying the band. "In the line `We ain't seen no silver since the airplane crash last year,' he was talking about the plane crash [that killed Jim Croce]," Minogue recalls. "The whole song was about Lifesong and it wasn't lost on them. I mean the label was started by songwriters, so they knew what it was about."

We Want Mine

You got gold in your mouth

We ain't see no gold since the priests left

You got silver on your wrists

We ain't seen no silver since the airplane crash last year

Chorus

You got blue shining skies we got the sun in our eyes

And we're going blind

We don't want your money we want mine

You got shoes on your feet

We ain't seen no shoes since the soldiers came

You got food in your mouth

And that ain't even funny

Chorus

If we should threaten you we're wasting our time

If we appeal to you we're wasting our time

But if we ask you very nicely please be kind

We don't want your money we want mine

You got lies in your mouth

We don't hear no truth 'til the kids cry

You got smiles to your ears

We don't got no smiles

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This is kind of tough. I think I will go Croce but ask me tomorrow and I might go the other way.

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I'm not familiar with Croce's songs aside from the hits, which are all very solid.

I do know that Chapin wrote a LOT OF SCHMALTZ. Just overly sappy sentimental stuff. But I like him anyway. :popcorn:

Some of my favorite Harry Chapin songs:

Flowers Are Red (all parents must listen to this song)

Mr. Tanner

I Wanna Learn A Love Song

30,000 Pounds Of Bananas

Sequel

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This is kind of tough. I think I will go Croce but ask me tomorrow and I might go the other way.

so you go both ways? :popcorn:

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I'm not familiar with Croce's songs aside from the hits, which are all very solid.I do know that Chapin wrote a LOT OF SCHMALTZ. Just overly sappy sentimental stuff. But I like him anyway. :bow:Some of my favorite Harry Chapin songs:Flowers Are Red (all parents must listen to this song)Mr. TannerI Wanna Learn A Love Song30,000 Pounds Of BananasSequel

:popcorn: i remember growing up hearing my dad play chapin records. 30,000 lbs of bananas was always my favorite as a kid.

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Croce, and it's not even close for me.

:thumbup: His singing, songwriting and guitar playing were simply a tremendous combination.

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This is kind of tough. I think I will go Croce but ask me tomorrow and I might go the other way.

so you go both ways? :unsure:
Never good to limit your choices.

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For me, Taxi and Cats in the Cradle are the best two songs...but Croce's body of work from Operator and LeRoy Brown, and Time in a Bottle and Rapid Roy to Spin, Spin, Spin (sung with his wife) takes the title between the two.

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For me, Taxi and Cats in the Cradle are the best two songs...but Croce's body of work takes the title between the two.

That's exactly how I would sum it up.

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Great thread.

I just heard "I Got A Name" and then "Cat's In The Cradle".

Very difficult to decide.

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For me this is like asking a calculator to divide by zero.

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If I had to pick any of their combined songs at 1.01 in a music draft, I'd have to go with Taxi. GREAT tune.

That about sums it up for me in choosing Harry.Keep the change. :2cents:
:bag: This is very tough, but I think Chapin was the superior songwriter.Mr. Tanner makes me :cry: every time.
:goodposting: I really like both artists, but Chapin edges Croce out in the songwriting department. Taxi, Mr. Tanner, A Better Place to Be. Fantastic songs.

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Jim Croce for me, but liked Chapin's work as well.

Lover's Cross is an incredible song. Heck we had Time In a Bottle played at our wedding when the Mothers were being escorted to their seats. Play that song while you have a montage of photos streaming about someone's life and you have instant waterworks.

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Croce by a mile for me, mostly cuz i couldnt hate him even though every insipid music lover of my era adored him. Plus, i worked the same circuit Chapin came out of & never met anyone who didnt think he was a total jackhole.

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Love Jim and Chapin does nothing for me.

You CAN mess around with Harry.

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Jim Croce died at 30? I thought he looked closer to being 50.

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Hard to believe Croce was only 30 when he died. He looked about 45.

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Hard to believe Croce was only 30 when he died. He looked about 45.

He did kind of look like a jigsaw puzzle with a couple of pieces gone.

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Jim Croce died at 30? I thought he looked closer to being 50.

I probably should have read this first. :bag:

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After listening to a few Croce and Chapin tunes to refresh my memory, it's Croce by a huge margin.

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Hard to believe Croce was only 30 when he died. He looked about 45.

He did kind of look like a jigsaw puzzle with a couple of pieces gone.
:clap: well played :lol:

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Dying in a Volkwagen Rabbit?For that reason alone, I'll go with Croce.

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