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I mean...the whole show is obviously totally staged but last night was just absurd.

And apparently, Victoria and Chase "dating" was just them "spending a night together in Charlotte" (his words per various articles from last night) So it's pretty clear that she was in on the act and just using the situation to get more air time.

You ALMOST feel bad for Peter, but I'm going to assume he's in on the whole thing too.

 

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35 minutes ago, TLEF316 said:

I mean...the whole show is obviously totally staged but last night was just absurd.

And apparently, Victoria and Chase "dating" was just them "spending a night together in Charlotte" (his words per various articles from last night) So it's pretty clear that she was in on the act and just using the situation to get more air time.

You ALMOST feel bad for Peter, but I'm going to assume he's in on the whole thing too.

 

Isn't Peter the guy who was dating a woman for a while and then let her know on Christmas that he was breaking up with her so he could be on Hannah's season of the Bachelorette? 

All of these people are looking for fame. Everything else is just a way to get it. 

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Oh 100 percent. The development of the Instagram influencer culture means that anyone who gets deep on one of these shows can support themselves with very little effort for several years after.  It used to be that minor celebrities HAD to go to lame events and degrade themselves to capitalize on their 15 minutes. Now, if you're Attractive and were on TV for more than 2 weeks, you can make a living posting from your couch.

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My soon to be 15 year old son insists on watching this show......I support it. His mother cracks up....I told her....it's good for him. We can teach him how to hit and run.

 

LMAO.

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The manufactured drama is almost too much for me.  I'll continue to watch just for the entertainment value but I've got a list of shows on Netflix and Prime to check out so I'm hoping this crap gets wrapped up soon.

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yeah, this season is horrible.  No amount of hottness can overcome the level of stupidity on display this season.  The champagne stealing drama was the shark jumping moment for me.

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2 minutes ago, General Malaise said:

yeah, this season is horrible.  No amount of hottness can overcome the level of stupidity on display this season.  The champagne stealing drama was the shark jumping moment for me.

The crew of women do seem considerably hotter as a whole than past seasons though.  Solid crop for the Bachelor.

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Peter is a dope. I would love it if this was the first time in bachelor history that the woman who wins turns down the final rose.

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17 hours ago, dhockster said:

Peter is a dope. I would love it if this was the first time in bachelor history that the woman who wins turns down the final rose.

I'm sure they're told that they have to accept and they can always break up after the show. 

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Gosh you guys, no posts yet today about this?  I actually forced myself to watch the whole 2 hours last night (I usually split it up into 2 nights and read/post on Wednesday :lol: )

Kelly, dang what a beeyotch.  "I'm an attorney".  Sure.  Go get me some coffee.  Supposedly being considered as the next Bachelorette.  Would not watch.

Madison is a smokeshow.  But he won't pick her because of her faith and the fact that she's a virgin.  This guy ain't waiting.

Hannah Ann is too young.  Maybe he'll pick her just for fun.  Wouldn't last.

Victoria is a mess.  He obviously likes messes, tho.

Which leaves Kelsey.  Wild card here.  Has some "hot mess" to her.

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You could just see the wheels turning in his head when Madison started on the faith kick. He was like "oh #### I better tell this girl I love her or she's gonna leave"

And yes, Kelly was awful. And she somehow gained like 15 lbs during filming. Add in the fact that he already closed the deal with her pre filming and that was an easy cut.

Zero chance he was sending Victoria home before getting her into bed. 

We're past the point where the producers would be forcing him to keep Kelsea around for drama purposes so i guess he actually likes her for some reason. 

I can't imagine how annoying it would be to have to call someone "Hannah Ann" every day. 

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1 minute ago, TLEF316 said:

You could just see the wheels turning in his head when Madison started on the faith kick. He was like "oh #### I better tell this girl I love her or she's gonna leave"

And yes, Kelly was awful. And she somehow gained like 15 lbs during filming. Add in the fact that he already closed the deal with her pre filming and that was an easy cut.

Zero chance he was sending Victoria home before getting her into bed. 

We're past the point where the producers would be forcing him to keep Kelsea around for drama purposes so i guess he actually likes her for some reason. 

I can't imagine how annoying it would be to have to call someone "Hannah Ann" every day. 

Bolded are incredibly good points.

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5 hours ago, TLEF316 said:

You could just see the wheels turning in his head when Madison started on the faith kick. He was like "oh #### I better tell this girl I love her or she's gonna leave"

And yes, Kelly was awful. And she somehow gained like 15 lbs during filming. Add in the fact that he already closed the deal with her pre filming and that was an easy cut.

Zero chance he was sending Victoria home before getting her into bed. 

We're past the point where the producers would be forcing him to keep Kelsea around for drama purposes so i guess he actually likes her for some reason. 

I can't imagine how annoying it would be to have to call someone "Hannah Ann" every day. 

I guess he could just call her Hhaaannn. 

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14 hours ago, TLEF316 said:

You could just see the wheels turning in his head when Madison started on the faith kick. He was like "oh #### I better tell this girl I love her or she's gonna leave"

And yes, Kelly was awful. And she somehow gained like 15 lbs during filming. Add in the fact that he already closed the deal with her pre filming and that was an easy cut.

Zero chance he was sending Victoria home before getting her into bed. 

We're past the point where the producers would be forcing him to keep Kelsea around for drama purposes so i guess he actually likes her for some reason. 

I can't imagine how annoying it would be to have to call someone "Hannah Ann" every day. 

This is all spot on. 

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On 2/11/2020 at 8:44 PM, TwinTurbo said:

I guess he could just call her Hhaaannn. 

I was thinking Ha, in Juve's voice.

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On 2/11/2020 at 2:23 PM, nirad3 said:

Gosh you guys, no posts yet today about this?  I actually forced myself to watch the whole 2 hours last night (I usually split it up into 2 nights and read/post on Wednesday :lol: )

Kelly, dang what a beeyotch.  "I'm an attorney".  Sure.  Go get me some coffee.  Supposedly being considered as the next Bachelorette.  Would not watch.

Madison is a smokeshow.  But he won't pick her because of her faith and the fact that she's a virgin.  This guy ain't waiting.

Hannah Ann is too young.  Maybe he'll pick her just for fun.  Wouldn't last.

Victoria is a mess.  He obviously likes messes, tho.

Which leaves Kelsey.  Wild card here.  Has some "hot mess" to her.

I just watched.  I can't see how any of these people end up marrying him.  

I didn't mind Kelly until this week, but she has a "Joker mouth" that has always bugged the hell out of me.  I'd rather see Natasha as the bachelorette.  She was super-cute.

As you said, Hannah Ann is just too young.  No one over the age of 25 would do the "what I love about you" list, by the way.

Madison is fabulous and would have been my slam-dunk pick if the religious crap hadn't come up this week.  He is obviously not comfortable with that at all.  She seems sincere about it, so this relationship won't work.

Kelsey is the "champagne" girl - in quotes because when she read the bottle to him, it was not even champagne, it was prosecco.  I don't see how she made it past the first week.

Victoria is insane and nuts and crazy and other synonyms.

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4 hours ago, krista4 said:

Victoria is insane and nuts and crazy and other synonyms.

And no doubt AMAZING in bed! 

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7 hours ago, krista4 said:

I just watched.  I can't see how any of these people end up marrying him.  

I didn't mind Kelly until this week, but she has a "Joker mouth" that has always bugged the hell out of me.  I'd rather see Natasha as the bachelorette.  She was super-cute.

As you said, Hannah Ann is just too young.  No one over the age of 25 would do the "what I love about you" list, by the way.

Madison is fabulous and would have been my slam-dunk pick if the religious crap hadn't come up this week.  He is obviously not comfortable with that at all.  She seems sincere about it, so this relationship won't work.

Kelsey is the "champagne" girl - in quotes because when she read the bottle to him, it was not even champagne, it was prosecco.  I don't see how she made it past the first week.

Victoria is insane and nuts and crazy and other synonyms.

Victoria was made to be on bachelor in paradise, not to win the bachelor. 

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Peter: so dull/lame....basically felt it was his mission to just use every Bach cliche....zero personality....oh wait....sorry I forgot. HE’S A PILOT....my bad.....this guy makes that foreign soccer player (was it Pablo?).....look like Kevin Hart....‘tis ok”

Kelly: Peter is looking at those hips and weight gain over the course of this journey and there was no way he was going home to meet mom and see what was in his future......not trying to be mean, but she really has just been having fun and obviously enjoying the benefits of free food and booze in great locations...how much extra do they have to pay you to start playing the “I am better than everyone else” card when they and you both know you are leaving soon....her best days in the rear view...you can’t handle the truth!!

Madison: cute small town hottie.....good athlete .....but the lord and family have a hold that won’t let go enough for her to run with the big dogs....she will make a great wife/mother for some religious guy that has a good job and hates sex....will never be freaky enough for the 4 times in a lighthouse guy...already a hint that Peter beds at least one of these before the finals and she threw out the “if he slept with one of these other girls, I’m out card”....at least they lead us to think its her that said that....

Hannah Ann:  yeah she’s young but I think she has enough daddy issues for Peter to mold her 50 shades of grey style....she has potential for final two and to win it all

Victoria: one of those people that rarely looks you in the eye and will always look away when talking.....drama 24/7....but as mentioned above....Peter is going full honey badger here and he don’t give a ####....he takes what he wants....and no way she wasn’t making it to a fantasy suite or at least somewhere where he gets to see that bod....she tried to get him to send her home and he still didn't......once he realized he was competing for someone that was hot enough to date a popular country singer, he knew he had no shot long term (because Peter is the captain of the boring team)....and so his whole focus was on that body.....and you can’t really blame him.....once this chick knew she was hot enough to be the pick out of numerous groupie hotties by a rich country singer....she basically entered a rent district that very few can afford...

Kelsey: think I overreacted to her bat ### crazy at the beginning and the whole champagne thing, but I think this lady has the perfect concoction for Peter.... good soccer mom in public but lady in the street freak in the bed smoke show, great body, crazy, daddy issues, not smarter than him...she makes the final two with Hannah and I think she wins....if there really is such a thing as a winner

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Victoria looked like a pretty good catch during her first date at Cedar Point..... until it became clear that she will treat every minor hurdle as though it is the end of the world.  I'll predict that Peter does her 5 times in the fantasy suite, then sends her packing.  Continuing his trend of being completely clueless, he hopes that Madison was just kidding about that whole virginity thing.  As he is getting ready to propose to Madison, she decides not to show up.  Season ends without a proposal.

Since neither Peter nor the old Hannah have any actual redeeming qualities, they crawl back together as each others' 3rd or 4th best options.  End scene.

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On 1/29/2020 at 1:24 PM, General Malaise said:

yeah, this season is horrible.  No amount of hottness can overcome the level of stupidity on display this season.  The champagne stealing drama was the shark jumping moment for me.

You have to be kidding me. ChampagneGate was the best thing that's happened so far.  This is the exact moment I decided I was in for the season.

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Just now, Henry Ford said:

You have to be kidding me. ChampagneGate was the best thing that's happened so far.  This is the exact moment I decided I was in for the season.

:excited:  :towelwave:  :lmao:

 

So freakin' awesome. 

This is actually shaping up to be a decent ending to the season.  They are hinting at something pretty huge drama-wise in the finale.

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I haven't been watching but my wife tells me this is the first year in a while where that spoiler guy does not know who he ends up with or what happens after.  Still doesn't make me want to start watching again.  

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27 minutes ago, Scoresman said:

I haven't been watching but my wife tells me this is the first year in a while where that spoiler guy does not know who he ends up with or what happens after.  Still doesn't make me want to start watching again.  

now wouldn't be a bad time to join the party.....as the final 4 is pretty uhhhhhhhhh.......strong.....( I have to give him that)....and we are approaching some one on one opportunities if you know what I mean....just sayin.....

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1 minute ago, Stinkin Ref said:

now wouldn't be a bad time to join the party.....as the final 4 is pretty uhhhhhhhhh.......strong.....( I have to give him that)....and we are approaching some one on one opportunities if you know what I mean....just sayin.....

I can't do it.  The show is so scripted and its the same thing every gosh darn year.  If I want to see hot chicks there's always pornhub or chaturbate.  

I've been using my free Monday evenings to rewatch Breaking Bad and The Sopranos while my wife watches this in the bedroom.  

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Just now, Scoresman said:

I can't do it.  The show is so scripted and its the same thing every gosh darn year.  If I want to see hot chicks there's always pornhub or chaturbate.  

I've been using my free Monday evenings to rewatch Breaking Bad and The Sopranos while my wife watches this in the bedroom.  

fair enough....was just thinking if you did join the party to spend some time with mama.....now isn't a bad time...

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Woah that's new.  Instead of using #### to censor my GD, it changed it to gosh darn.  

I did not type gosh darn

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14 hours ago, offdee said:

And no doubt AMAZING in bed! 

He wants to bang her so bad. But she is a freaking hot mess waiting to happen.

Madison is gorgeous, sweet and genuine. If he does not pursue a real relationship with he is a bumbling idiot. I understand she loves Jesus and all that. But you can see how that can work out. It is not awful. She would be an amazing mother to his children, and she is simply so genuine. 

Hannah Ann is also a sweet heart. But man she is a baby. It is between those two. The other two are total nutbars. But he will bang both of them well before he let’s them go. 

 

Lucky guy.

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So a very predictable rose ceremony last night. 

Madison and Hanna are the two front runners. No question. Both are beautiful and sweet. Both are very genuine. I don't think he could go wrong with either. But I still say, if you want a strong, gorgeous and incredible future mother for your children. You take a leap of faith with Madison. She is a great woman. 

Victoria is the one he is lusting for so badly. He wanted that overnight with her. Now it is coming. 

In all fairness to Victoria he handled that #### show BS with an old scorned ex giving her dirt on Victoria....very badly. You go and meet her family. Then address it before your rose ceremony. He handled it exactly like the producers of the show instructed him too. This is why the show is a love hat relationship. It is a fun show....no doubt. Gorgeous women every Monday night? What is not to like. But the contrived drama get's to be a bit much.

But despite the BS drama he still gave her a rose. Why? He wants to bed her and now Madison will lay it out for him that if he sleeps with anyone during the overnights......it will be over.

So if he really really wants a potential future with Madison.....he will not sleep with Hanna or Victoria. And here is the thing. I do not think Hanna would sleep with him anyway right now. But Victoria would not doubt sink her hooks into him in bed.

So what will he do? 

I hope he does not screw up his potential life with a girl like Madison. She is a catch big time. In fact.....she is probably too good for him, because I am getting a sneaking suspicion he is simply a player. Because Victoria should have been gone a while ago. It is a constant struggle with them. Yet she is still here.

 

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Peter's pursuit of an overnight with Victoria is like Andy Dufresne crawling through the sewer pipe on his way out of Shawshank.

It's gonna be AWESOME once he spills out the other side, but he's really trudging through a 500 yard river of #### to get there.

The late game Madison super religious reveal is a real kick in the balls. She seems like an incredible girl but as others have said, it's a big leap for a guy who I'm sure hasn't been to church in a decade.  My guess is that Pete's flight schedule would suddenly include a lot of Saturday-sunday red-eyes if they ended up together.

 

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And yeah, if he just wants a stay at home wife that will do whatever he says, hannahannah is the obvious choice.

She's never been pursued by anyone other than drunken SEC fratboys, so even Peter looks like prince charming by comparison. 

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So awesome.  Based on what they've teased for the finale, you gotta think Victoria is involved somehow.  But I think she's just been "kept" for the drama angle.  I think he's already made up his mind and they're just "doing the show".  Madison has to be his choice, if the guy really wants to get married like he suggests.  Hannah Ann has the personality of a seagull.

He'll let Hannah Ann go and will get to "choose" between Madison and Victoria.  

But will he get to smash Victoria at all or will he opt to succumb to Madison's ultimatum?

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I mean, if you don't get to sleep with Victoria, what was it all for? The stupid theme dates, the lame dancing in front of crowds, having to listen to 20 women cry over nonsense, people bashing you on social media, etc.

As the bachelor, you put up with all that crap because you get to have sex with the 3 hottest chicks there. Real gut punch if you don't.

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booting Kelsey before fantasy suites was a huge mistake.....she was automatic and would have been a ton of fun me thinks.....had something to prove and some "work" to do cause Peter withheld the I love you....and I still think she is "technically" the best fit for him....not the best wife necessarily for the every day man, but for him....yes.....she actually seemed to be showing some signs of maturity as things went on....but also enough crazy to keep him entertained so to speak....

Madison....said before and not trying to be mean in anyway....great catch for a man of serious faith who hates to drink or have sex.....she doesn't drink at all (not that you need to or its a deal breaker)....but if you noticed, she doesn't drink the champagne when they do group toasts etc....family doesn't drink.....etc....no pre marital sex....and probably not a ton of just for the fun of it in the future....she is a much better athlete than him, and also smarter.....they would not last, even though she is a solid catch for somebody...her ultimatum will lead to her leaving

Victoria.....sorry but she thinks very highly of herself even with all the crying.....when a woman's "go to" way of dealing with things starts with "I'm done" and the "oh really's" and "thats what you thinks"....you should run away quickly (after the fantasy suite).....although I would bet dimes to donuts, everyone thinks she is is fantasy suite gold, but I don't think she would seal the deal once go time approached....sabotage...she doesn't want to be the country music groupie and the bachelor groupie...

Hannah.....to me checks all the boxes for him including not being smarter than him...

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5 minutes ago, TLEF316 said:

I mean, if you don't get to sleep with Victoria, what was it all for? The stupid theme dates, the lame dancing in front of crowds, having to listen to 20 women cry over nonsense, people bashing you on social media, etc.

As the bachelor, you put up with all that crap because you get to have sex with the 3 hottest chicks there. Real gut punch if you don't.

If he get's to bang Victoria and still get's Madison...WINNING!!!!

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I don't watch Bachelor, only Paradise, but why would Madison not be ok with him having sex with the other 2? She knows he's had sex before, right? 

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9 minutes ago, Stinkin Ref said:

booting Kelsey before fantasy suites was a huge mistake.....she was automatic and would have been a ton of fun me thinks.....had something to prove and some "work" to do cause Peter withheld the I love you....and I still think she is "technically" the best fit for him....not the best wife necessarily for the every day man, but for him....yes.....she actually seemed to be showing some signs of maturity as things went on....but also enough crazy to keep him entertained so to speak....

Madison....said before and not trying to be mean in anyway....great catch for a man of serious faith who hates to drink or have sex.....she doesn't drink at all (not that you need to or its a deal breaker)....but if you noticed, she doesn't drink the champagne when they do group toasts etc....family doesn't drink.....etc....no pre marital sex....and probably not a ton of just for the fun of it in the future....she is a much better athlete than him, and also smarter.....they would not last, even though she is a solid catch for somebody...her ultimatum will lead to her leaving

Victoria.....sorry but she thinks very highly of herself even with all the crying.....when a woman's "go to" way of dealing with things starts with "I'm done" and the "oh really's" and "thats what you thinks"....you should run away quickly (after the fantasy suite).....although I would bet dimes to donuts, everyone thinks she is is fantasy suite gold, but I don't think she would seal the deal once go time approached....sabotage...

Hannah.....to me checks all the boxes for him including not being smarter than him...

You make some excellent points. Although I think Madison will be amazing in bed because he will get to teach her as they go along and train her to a tee to satisfy him exactly the way he wants to be. You gotta love that. And she is gorgeous. But the extreme religious thing is a tough one. I agree.

Hannah is the safe choice. No question. She is beautiful but her dad looks like a real ####### ball buster.

I think Madison is just a real woman. Her heart is real and out of all those women hands down, I would want her to be the mother of my children. Awesome DNA, amazing family, amazing values.

 

A homerun. A real marriage is compromise and I gotta believe Madison will lighten up a little as they get to know each other really well. Again the art of compromise defines your marriage. I think he can easily get away with just Church on Sunday and be home in time for kickoff in the fall. For her.....I would do it.

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Just now, bcdjr1 said:

I don't watch Bachelor, only Paradise, but why would Madison not be ok with him having sex with the other 2? She knows he's had sex before, right? 

when its this close to the end and if she is the one.....he shouldn't need to......want to maybe, but need to ....no....thats how she thinks...

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2 minutes ago, bcdjr1 said:

I don't watch Bachelor, only Paradise, but why would Madison not be ok with him having sex with the other 2? She knows he's had sex before, right? 

Exactly. It is TV drama. I think it will all work out. And if it doesn't.....oh well.

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9 minutes ago, bcdjr1 said:

I don't watch Bachelor, only Paradise, but why would Madison not be ok with him having sex with the other 2? She knows he's had sex before, right? 

and if this was "real life"......the thought of the person you are getting engaged to banging 2 other people literally within hours of the proposal would probably be a little tough to handle for anybody....let alone those with the "save it for marriage" mindset....

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I believe he will have sex with Victoria, and as a result, he will not end up with Madison. I don't think he ends up with anyone.

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1 minute ago, dhockster said:

I believe he will have sex with Victoria, and as a result, he will not end up with Madison. I don't think he ends up with anyone.

I agree with this....but I think it will be Hannah instead of Victoria....

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btw, Lincee Ray is a blogger who does a great recap of every bachelor episode. Pretty funny. ihategreenbeans.com 

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1 minute ago, Stinkin Ref said:

when its this close to the end and if she is the one.....he shouldn't need to......want to maybe, but need to ....no....thats how she thinks...

And I agree it is OK to think this way. 

He is thinking I am finally going to have a ****fest with Victoria after going through all this BS but I am picking Madison. She on the other hand is going to deal him a kick in the balls.....if he really wants Madison.....he will abstain from sleeping with the other two.

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4 minutes ago, Stinkin Ref said:

and if this was "real life"......the thought of the person you are getting engaged to banging 2 other people literally within hours of the proposal would probably be a little tough to handle for anybody....let alone those with the "save it for marriage" mindset....

Right? LMAO this show......what fun.

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1 minute ago, Stinkin Ref said:

I agree with this....but I think it will be Hannah instead of Victoria....

 I think he could have sex with Hannah also. But why would you have kept Victoria around if it wasn't to mess around with her in the fantasy suite? Do you think he actually likes Victoria?

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Reading all these posts today is why I have read the spoilers before the season starts the last three years. A few of you are so way off.  :lmao:

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