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He just added Javon WalkerThis is my favorite team thus far...4.6 QB Carson Palmer Bengals1.11 RB M Lynch Bills2.6 WR Andre Johnson Texans5.11 WR Lav Coles J-E-T-S3.11 TE A Gates
He just added Javon WalkerThis is my favorite team thus far...4.6 QB Carson Palmer Bengals1.11 RB M Lynch Bills2.6 WR Andre Johnson Texans5.11 WR Lav Coles J-E-T-S3.11 TE A Gates
Been wondering that too. I almost took him at the 2/3 turn, but with LT already on board decided not to.How the hell did Gates fall to the bottom of the third?This is my favorite team thus far...4.6 QB Carson Palmer Bengals1.11 RB M Lynch Bills2.6 WR Andre Johnson Texans5.11 WR Lav Coles J-E-T-S3.11 TE A Gates
Not to toot my own horn too extremely, but I'm liking my team very much right about now. Not saying it's the top team or even top 3, but I think at this point I have a really good group of core players. Now I must make the most out of these "make-or-break" middle rounds which play so heavily into the success of a survivor team.Ruffrodys05
1.12 (12): Larry Johnson, KC, RB10 (6)
2.05 (21): Ronnie Brown, Mia, RB15 (4)
3.12 (44): Roy Williams, Det, WR18 (4)
4.05 (53): Greg Jennings, GB, WR21 (8)
5.12 (76): Kevin Curtis, Phi, WR29 (7)
6.05 (85): Philip Rivers, SD, QB15 (9)
People underestimate the value of the tier1 TEs in this format. On another note, I drafted Winslow over Gates because I think he's less likely to miss games.Been wondering that too. I almost took him at the 2/3 turn, but with LT already on board decided not to.How the hell did Gates fall to the bottom of the third?This is my favorite team thus far...4.6 QB Carson Palmer Bengals1.11 RB M Lynch Bills2.6 WR Andre Johnson Texans5.11 WR Lav Coles J-E-T-S3.11 TE A Gates
To play devil's advocate- you reached on jennings and Curtis had a tendency to disappear last yearNot to toot my own horn too extremely, but I'm liking my team very much right about now. Not saying it's the top team or even top 3, but I think at this point I have a really good group of core players. Now I must make the most out of these "make-or-break" middle rounds which play so heavily into the success of a survivor team.Ruffrodys05
1.12 (12): Larry Johnson, KC, RB10 (6)
2.05 (21): Ronnie Brown, Mia, RB15 (4)
3.12 (44): Roy Williams, Det, WR18 (4)
4.05 (53): Greg Jennings, GB, WR21 (8)
5.12 (76): Kevin Curtis, Phi, WR29 (7)
6.05 (85): Philip Rivers, SD, QB15 (9)
I'm hurtin' for a QB in a dynasty league. I have deals working for Campbell and Bulger. Obviously Campbell comes cheaper, but what do you like about him over say Leinart and a few others still available.I believe that the WRs at this point are rather MEHHHHHH and I so I went with my best avaible QB. He was not really a bargain, but I like the Campbell/Palmer tandem.
I think that he made great strides last season and this will be his third as a starter. He has decent options in S Moss, Cooley, Portis, and Betts as well as a couple of talented rookies. They have a decent line and a stronge running game that keeps folks honest, so he has tools for success. He was underappreciated as a collegian but led Auburn to very good seasons, I believe that he was the QB as they went undefeated, no easy task in the SEC. Good athlete and good leadership with plenty of options, could do worse. Regarding Lienart, I would consider him a potential equal talent, but he seems distracted and is on a team that the coaches seem determined to run the ball to control the clock, even with Boldin and Fitz.The teams should be caught up. You might want to check for errors this time
I'm hurtin' for a QB in a dynasty league. I have deals working for Campbell and Bulger. Obviously Campbell comes cheaper, but what do you like about him over say Leinart and a few others still available.I believe that the WRs at this point are rather MEHHHHHH and I so I went with my best avaible QB. He was not really a bargain, but I like the Campbell/Palmer tandem.
Any worries about a new coach and coordinator? Seems to be any strides made last season might disappear as he learns a new offense.rzrback77 said:I think that he made great strides last season and this will be his third as a starter. He has decent options in S Moss, Cooley, Portis, and Betts as well as a couple of talented rookies. They have a decent line and a stronge running game that keeps folks honest, so he has tools for success. He was underappreciated as a collegian but led Auburn to very good seasons, I believe that he was the QB as they went undefeated, no easy task in the SEC. Good athlete and good leadership with plenty of options, could do worse. Regarding Lienart, I would consider him a potential equal talent, but he seems distracted and is on a team that the coaches seem determined to run the ball to control the clock, even with Boldin and Fitz.The teams should be caught up. You might want to check for errors this time
I'm hurtin' for a QB in a dynasty league. I have deals working for Campbell and Bulger. Obviously Campbell comes cheaper, but what do you like about him over say Leinart and a few others still available.I believe that the WRs at this point are rather MEHHHHHH and I so I went with my best avaible QB. He was not really a bargain, but I like the Campbell/Palmer tandem.
moving this here, so as not to clog the draft thead. I found the DWill pick interesting, especially since he shared a bye with Bush and there seemed to be other RB options available. DWill did seem to be your highest ranked RB left. What's your thoughts on the Carolina RB situation, as you apparently lilke him much more than Stewart. I just think Stewart becomes the main RB there. DWill couldn't beat out Foster and I can't believe Carolina has that much confidence in DWill. I just don't think they see him as an every down RB. I think they focus back on more of a power running game...evidenced by trading up to get Otah and upgrading their OL. No matter how much people or Carolina like DWill, he seems relegated to a COP back.hoping to make it that far ... I took a weak QB1 and JD was the last decent QB2 I had on my list with Kitna going right before ...Shadowfax said:Are you trying to get knocked out Week 9?Jeff Tefertiller said:8.07 Jake Delhomme, QB, Car Here's to hoping the elbow is in good shape. PMing ACP
Check out Campbell's history, part of his underated comes from the fact that he has ALWAYS had new OCs and new systems in both college and at Washington, but he has continued to make strides. I think he is adapive and a quick learner. Hopefully this OC will stay and he can improve his improvement (pun intended).Any worries about a new coach and coordinator? Seems to be any strides made last season might disappear as he learns a new offense.rzrback77 said:I think that he made great strides last season and this will be his third as a starter. He has decent options in S Moss, Cooley, Portis, and Betts as well as a couple of talented rookies. They have a decent line and a stronge running game that keeps folks honest, so he has tools for success. He was underappreciated as a collegian but led Auburn to very good seasons, I believe that he was the QB as they went undefeated, no easy task in the SEC. Good athlete and good leadership with plenty of options, could do worse. Regarding Lienart, I would consider him a potential equal talent, but he seems distracted and is on a team that the coaches seem determined to run the ball to control the clock, even with Boldin and Fitz.The teams should be caught up. You might want to check for errors this time
I'm hurtin' for a QB in a dynasty league. I have deals working for Campbell and Bulger. Obviously Campbell comes cheaper, but what do you like about him over say Leinart and a few others still available.I believe that the WRs at this point are rather MEHHHHHH and I so I went with my best avaible QB. He was not really a bargain, but I like the Campbell/Palmer tandem.
I thought he went at about the right time. I don't think the offense is good enough to give him Reggie Bush type numbers, but he definitely has upside in PPR leagues.rzrback77 said:I am very curious about how folks feel about Chris Johnson rookie RB with the Titans. Fullback Fro just snagged him at 8.11 and RB 39. He of course is extremely fast and supposedly has good hands and I have heard discussion that the Titans will use him a la Reggie Bush all over the field. I just drafted him in dynasty and am curious what y'all think about him.I considered him when I selected Felix Jones and wonder if they could have smilar roles on their teams in 08?
- I disagree about reaching for Jennings, he was the best available WR at that spot, in my eyes. Curtis did disappear last year....after McNabb went down. He also had some good games when McNabb returned. - 2 top 15 TE's will work just fine in this format. (Both drafted after your initial comments, but your comments did not lead me to daft 2 in a row. I missed out on Gates by one pick in the 3rd and then adjusted my draft strategy according to the selections I made since then.)To play devil's advocate- you reached on jennings and Curtis had a tendency to disappear last yearNot to toot my own horn too extremely, but I'm liking my team very much right about now. Not saying it's the top team or even top 3, but I think at this point I have a really good group of core players. Now I must make the most out of these "make-or-break" middle rounds which play so heavily into the success of a survivor team.Ruffrodys05
1.12 (12): Larry Johnson, KC, RB10 (6)
2.05 (21): Ronnie Brown, Mia, RB15 (4)
3.12 (44): Roy Williams, Det, WR18 (4)
4.05 (53): Greg Jennings, GB, WR21 (8)
5.12 (76): Kevin Curtis, Phi, WR29 (7)
6.05 (85): Philip Rivers, SD, QB15 (9)
7.12 (108): Heath Miller, Pit, TE12: (6)
8.05 (117): Donald Lee, GB, TE15: (8)
- you're going to get killed at TE
- your RBBC will need to work
- you'll likely be below average at QB
Agreed, I was looking at the wrong team's RBs...you're obviously very strong at RB.- What RBBC? LJ gets the vast majority of carries in KC and will continue to do so.
Moved out of draft thread.Ruffrodys05 said:I have not seen one shred of evidence to even remotely suggest you are outdrafting anyone in this league.......maybe SSL4, but that's a BIG maybe.You guys aren't really going to continue to let me outdraft you like this are you?
ahhh...I'm just talking some smack...I was happy with my V-Jax pick.Moved out of draft thread.Ruffrodys05 said:I have not seen one shred of evidence to even remotely suggest you are outdrafting anyone in this league.......maybe SSL4, but that's a BIG maybe.You guys aren't really going to continue to let me outdraft you like this are you?
I think V Jax is a good pick too and will probably do better than Chambers. If nothing else, you will dominate in SSL4 next yearahhh...I'm just talking some smack...I was happy with my V-Jax pick.Moved out of draft thread.Ruffrodys05 said:I have not seen one shred of evidence to even remotely suggest you are outdrafting anyone in this league.......maybe SSL4, but that's a BIG maybe.You guys aren't really going to continue to let me outdraft you like this are you?
You make it so easy to have fun and smack you back.....it's all good. I like V. Jackson......at least he was not a big reach where you grabbed him.ahhh...I'm just talking some smack...I was happy with my V-Jax pick.Moved out of draft thread.Ruffrodys05 said:I have not seen one shred of evidence to even remotely suggest you are outdrafting anyone in this league.......maybe SSL4, but that's a BIG maybe.You guys aren't really going to continue to let me outdraft you like this are you?
I really had no intention of going after Branch in the 10th round........I thought I was going to go RB. But then when it came around to me having to make a pick, I started thinking maybe I should pull the trigger on him now. His ADP in the PDSL's was 7.14 (110) WR40. He went off the board in SSL1 at 11.16 (176) WR67 and in SSL2 at 8.11 (123) WR47 which averages out to 10.06 (150). While there is the possibility he is not ready for week 1, when healthy he grades out to be Seattle's WR1, which isn't too shabby for my WR5. I did not think he would make it back around to round 11 for me......and apparently I was correct in that assumption.As far as Arnaz, I'm not that high on him, but others around here are, so it's smart to pay attention to what is being said about him and to keep an eye on him throughout training camp. Personally, I think Isaac Bruce and Bryant Johnson are going to be the go-to WR's on the 49er's squad, but let's not forget this is going to be a Mike Martz led offense and he typically uses as many WR's as he can.:finger: :finger:ruffrodys05 rzrback7710.05 (149): Deion Branch, Sea, WR58 (4)Damn...there goes my two turn picks.10.6 Arnaz Battle WR 49ers
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I was really hoping to pair Branch with Engram, to safeguard the Engram pick to a degree. And like you said, Battle is sort of unknown at this point but he's in a Martz offense. At WR60, I think these 2 players have as much upside, if not the most upside, than anyone else left at the position.I really had no intention of going after Branch in the 10th round........I thought I was going to go RB. But then when it came around to me having to make a pick, I started thinking maybe I should pull the trigger on him now. His ADP in the PDSL's was 7.14 (110) WR40. He went off the board in SSL1 at 11.16 (176) WR67 and in SSL2 at 8.11 (123) WR47 which averages out to 10.06 (150). While there is the possibility he is not ready for week 1, when healthy he grades out to be Seattle's WR1, which isn't too shabby for my WR5. I did not think he would make it back around to round 11 for me......and apparently I was correct in that assumption.As far as Arnaz, I'm not that high on him, but others around here are, so it's smart to pay attention to what is being said about him and to keep an eye on him throughout training camp. Personally, I think Isaac Bruce and Bryant Johnson are going to be the go-to WR's on the 49er's squad, but let's not forget this is going to be a Mike Martz led offense and he typically uses as many WR's as he can.:finger: :finger:ruffrodys05 rzrback7710.05 (149): Deion Branch, Sea, WR58 (4)Damn...there goes my two turn picks.10.6 Arnaz Battle WR 49ers
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bumpity bumpmoving this here, so as not to clog the draft thead. I found the DWill pick interesting, especially since he shared a bye with Bush and there seemed to be other RB options available. DWill did seem to be your highest ranked RB left. What's your thoughts on the Carolina RB situation, as you apparently lilke him much more than Stewart. I just think Stewart becomes the main RB there. DWill couldn't beat out Foster and I can't believe Carolina has that much confidence in DWill. I just don't think they see him as an every down RB. I think they focus back on more of a power running game...evidenced by trading up to get Otah and upgrading their OL. No matter how much people or Carolina like DWill, he seems relegated to a COP back.hoping to make it that far ... I took a weak QB1 and JD was the last decent QB2 I had on my list with Kitna going right before ...Are you trying to get knocked out Week 9?8.07 Jake Delhomme, QB, Car Here's to hoping the elbow is in good shape. PMing ACP
Personally for 08, I like Battle much more than Branch as there is a lot of talk about Branch being on the PUP initially and if so woould not hit the field until week 7 at the earliest. In a survivor you could be gone before he plays. I think that there is a good chance that Bryant Johnson and Bruce are the two wide outs with Battle playing the slot, which has been very good for McDonald over the past two seasons.I was really hoping to pair Branch with Engram, to safeguard the Engram pick to a degree. And like you said, Battle is sort of unknown at this point but he's in a Martz offense. At WR60, I think these 2 players have as much upside, if not the most upside, than anyone else left at the position.I really had no intention of going after Branch in the 10th round........I thought I was going to go RB. But then when it came around to me having to make a pick, I started thinking maybe I should pull the trigger on him now. His ADP in the PDSL's was 7.14 (110) WR40. He went off the board in SSL1 at 11.16 (176) WR67 and in SSL2 at 8.11 (123) WR47 which averages out to 10.06 (150). While there is the possibility he is not ready for week 1, when healthy he grades out to be Seattle's WR1, which isn't too shabby for my WR5. I did not think he would make it back around to round 11 for me......and apparently I was correct in that assumption.As far as Arnaz, I'm not that high on him, but others around here are, so it's smart to pay attention to what is being said about him and to keep an eye on him throughout training camp. Personally, I think Isaac Bruce and Bryant Johnson are going to be the go-to WR's on the 49er's squad, but let's not forget this is going to be a Mike Martz led offense and he typically uses as many WR's as he can.:finger: :finger:ruffrodys05 rzrback7710.05 (149): Deion Branch, Sea, WR58 (4)Damn...there goes my two turn picks.10.6 Arnaz Battle WR 49ers
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My opinion - QB is very dicey with Young and Grossman (who may not start and should not keep it even if he wins it). RB is excellent for the top two for these leagues. I think that Maroney could be excellent value this year (don't recall how early you grabbed him), WR looks promising with Edwards and the exceedingly high hopes that folks have for Calvin. I am not high on Reggie Brown but he has performed well last couple of years. D Jax has questions. TE could be top notch all the way down to blah. Shockey has the injury trouble and St Louis has lack of TE usage, but most are thinking better opp for McMichael in 08. Will SHockey be moved and will he stay on the field. ##### looking team as QB is low spot and you can survive without top talent there.wdcrob said:Vince YoungRex GrossmanFrank GoreLaurence MaroneyBraylon EdwardsCalvin JohnsonReggie BrownDarrell JacksonJeremy ShockeyRandy McMichael
sorry, I missed it earlier. I do not think Carolina "wants" a RB to get 300 carries. I had a big write up on the situation dating back to when Fox took over. Only once did the Panthers have a primary RB. But, it looks like the Panthers want to be a power running team. The years they did well were the years they here toward the top of the league in rushing attempts. On DWill vs Stewart, I like Stewart a lot. But, when I read that he will be the primary kick (or maybe punt) returner, it makes me think they will work him in gradually. Also, with Stewart's injury history, I am banking on him missing some games. The DWill pick is one based purely on upside and potential in a PPR league. DWill would be tough to start every week, but hopefully I will get other RBs to fill in the gaps.Shadowfax said:bumpity bumpmoving this here, so as not to clog the draft thead. I found the DWill pick interesting, especially since he shared a bye with Bush and there seemed to be other RB options available. DWill did seem to be your highest ranked RB left. What's your thoughts on the Carolina RB situation, as you apparently lilke him much more than Stewart. I just think Stewart becomes the main RB there. DWill couldn't beat out Foster and I can't believe Carolina has that much confidence in DWill. I just don't think they see him as an every down RB. I think they focus back on more of a power running game...evidenced by trading up to get Otah and upgrading their OL. No matter how much people or Carolina like DWill, he seems relegated to a COP back.hoping to make it that far ... I took a weak QB1 and JD was the last decent QB2 I had on my list with Kitna going right before ...Are you trying to get knocked out Week 9?8.07 Jake Delhomme, QB, Car Here's to hoping the elbow is in good shape. PMing ACP
Dallas DST is a solid pick IMO.RedZone said:What do you guys think of the Dallas D? I think they are underrated as stands, they really addressed some needs in the draft and if Pacman is reinstated, they could have a potent return and secondary immediately (assuming he has stayed in some kind of shape).Yes, it is another stretch, but this league has turned into the stretch draft for me. the offense may be seen as a downside as they may get far enough ahead that the D goes into prevent or the O may score so many points that opposing teams are forced to really air it out to keep up. Could open up opportunities for turnovers.I am thinking about targeting Dallas D in other leagues, especially if Pacman comes back and can keep clean.
Sure, but especially so if you don't care who you get. Probably five to eight will go in the next two rounds bringing the total up to 12 or 14. That still leaves 18 for you to pick from.Felt like I almost had to go DST at the 10/11 turn, and didn't like the feeling.Had looked at Benson and Wilford at the 8/9 turn, and spent most of the last round kicking myself for not taking Wilford....and there he was for me in the 10th. I know he sucks, but he's currently WR1 in Miami and show easily match this draft position with a lot more upside.Benson sucks too, but Forte doesn't look like a bell-cow Rb...Benson will get plenty of chances this year to show whether or not he can make it in the NFL. I'm thinking no, but he'll still have 150 carries minimum, and that's twice what most any other RB at this position will get.I waited on WR/RB last round and it worked...will DST work?????????
LOL...I doubt more then 8-10 are left when I come back up.Sure, but especially so if you don't care who you get. Probably five to eight will go in the next two rounds bringing the total up to 12 or 14. That still leaves 18 for you to pick from.Felt like I almost had to go DST at the 10/11 turn, and didn't like the feeling.Had looked at Benson and Wilford at the 8/9 turn, and spent most of the last round kicking myself for not taking Wilford....and there he was for me in the 10th. I know he sucks, but he's currently WR1 in Miami and show easily match this draft position with a lot more upside.Benson sucks too, but Forte doesn't look like a bell-cow Rb...Benson will get plenty of chances this year to show whether or not he can make it in the NFL. I'm thinking no, but he'll still have 150 carries minimum, and that's twice what most any other RB at this position will get.I waited on WR/RB last round and it worked...will DST work?????????
In regards to what?Dominant is the word that comes to mind...
I've been a big fan of Leon since he was poorly used at FSU. I felt through the whole 11th round I should have taken him instead of the Chargers. I still feel I blew that one. Washington makes plays. Them showing no interest in RBs in the draft (and only Chatman in FA) was a vote of confidence, imo. Even if Jones stays healthy, I think Washington turns into a solid PPR (rbbc) back this season as they find more ways to work him into the standard offense. Good pick. I think he lasted too long. We'll see.glad to hear that as I have obtained him a lot this year and last. Wanted him here and almost took him instead of a defense, but decided to gamble and take a defense. Solid picks the last six or so have diminished my list just like yours.Do you think that he will get more opportunities or that T Jones will be too old to last all year?Yeah, I went to bed confident I would get two I wanted at this corner. Stokely, Patten, Washington, Hardy... that was my list.
I really wanted Leon.
11.16 Lorenzo Booker, Phi, RB
12.01 Donnie Avery, SL, WR
I thought Jerious Norwood lasted a little long and had him penciled in above Washington but really had not been able to choose. After natives grabbed Norwood I was sure Leon wouldn't get to me. I am pleasantly surprised that he did. Glad to hear that some of you thought it was a solid pick.I've been a big fan of Leon since he was poorly used at FSU. I felt through the whole 11th round I should have taken him instead of the Chargers. I still feel I blew that one. Washington makes plays. Them showing no interest in RBs in the draft (and only Chatman in FA) was a vote of confidence, imo. Even if Jones stays healthy, I think Washington turns into a solid PPR (rbbc) back this season as they find more ways to work him into the standard offense. Good pick. I think he lasted too long. We'll see.glad to hear that as I have obtained him a lot this year and last. Wanted him here and almost took him instead of a defense, but decided to gamble and take a defense. Solid picks the last six or so have diminished my list just like yours.Do you think that he will get more opportunities or that T Jones will be too old to last all year?Yeah, I went to bed confident I would get two I wanted at this corner. Stokely, Patten, Washington, Hardy... that was my list.
I really wanted Leon.
11.16 Lorenzo Booker, Phi, RB
12.01 Donnie Avery, SL, WR
I was debating both. I prefer Leon because of the Jets improving OL, the mess that remains in Atlanta, and Turner. I have recently read that Norwood is a major part of the plans even with Turner, so it was close for me. I could see taking either first. I only whined about Leon because he was so close to my next pick. I would have gladly taken Norwood on that turn if he was available. Good picks. Booker was definitely a compromise.I thought Jerious Norwood lasted a little long and had him penciled in above Washington but really had not been able to choose. After natives grabbed Norwood I was sure Leon wouldn't get to me. I am pleasantly surprised that he did. Glad to hear that some of you thought it was a solid pick.I've been a big fan of Leon since he was poorly used at FSU. I felt through the whole 11th round I should have taken him instead of the Chargers. I still feel I blew that one. Washington makes plays. Them showing no interest in RBs in the draft (and only Chatman in FA) was a vote of confidence, imo. Even if Jones stays healthy, I think Washington turns into a solid PPR (rbbc) back this season as they find more ways to work him into the standard offense. Good pick. I think he lasted too long. We'll see.
Completely deplorable, inexcusable, reprehensible and unjustifiable being okay with a Lakers loss tonight. However, I could change me mind and forgive you if you take me with you for Game 7.I also have a line on Game 7 seats Monday night should Utah win tonight. I'm a huge Laker fan, but I'd be okay with a loss tonight. Is that wrong? I know in my younger days I would never consider such treason. Now, wth, I wanna go to a game 7.
I was planning to offer the extra ticket to you. Oh well, nice win.Completely deplorable, inexcusable, reprehensible and unjustifiable being okay with a Lakers loss tonight. However, I could change me mind and forgive you if you take me with you for Game 7.I also have a line on Game 7 seats Monday night should Utah win tonight. I'm a huge Laker fan, but I'd be okay with a loss tonight. Is that wrong? I know in my younger days I would never consider such treason. Now, wth, I wanna go to a game 7.
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It's pretty apparent that I'm in the minority, but it seems unlikely to me that Arizona continues in the 2 QB system this year. If Leinart shows any progression at all, he'll stay in the game this year. Warner should be done.Unlike H2H leagues, I have never picked a particular player to keep someone else from having him. I want this player for myself and I just can't let Chaos Commish have him to pair with Leinart, given that he already has a nice looking team.13.14 KURT WARNER
I can't form a strong opinion on this. Leinart is such a weener, I could see Kurt back on the field and doing his thing with Fitz and Anquan again. Then again Leinart has a nice skillset for this team if he gets it. I have doubts, but figured he was worth a shot where I took him. I would feel better about it with Warner. Anyway. I'm here. Will pick shortly and update the teams before lunch.It's pretty apparent that I'm in the minority, but it seems unlikely to me that Arizona continues in the 2 QB system this year. If Leinart shows any progression at all, he'll stay in the game this year. Warner should be done.Unlike H2H leagues, I have never picked a particular player to keep someone else from having him. I want this player for myself and I just can't let Chaos Commish have him to pair with Leinart, given that he already has a nice looking team.13.14 KURT WARNER