nittanylion
Footballguy
I know, I know...I'm BEGGING ridicule...
...but I just have this FEELING, you know?
...but I just have this FEELING, you know?
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nittanylion
Footballguy
I'll gladly move down to 1.03...and take my Pick with me!Damn...should have given that first pick to someone who would have appreciated it.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Guess everyone's absolutely stunned that I took Jackson at 1.01... 
Road Warriors
Footballguy
Speechless!Guess everyone's absolutely stunned that I took Jackson at 1.01...
However, it appears that having to choose between LT & ADP has rendered teamramrod catatonic with surprise.
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CommuterMan
Footballguy
Sjax over LT and AD is a little surprising but it's not like you choose Larry Johnson with the #1 pick. I like SJax and I think that he will have a solid year if he stays healthy.
nittanylion
Footballguy
What's the fun in doing what everyone else is doing. Besides, we've been waiting so long for this thing to get off the ground, I thought I'd start it off with a bang!
If I were redrafting right now in a standard League that allowed trading during the Draft, I would have traded down to 3, and taken Jackson there. He's got an interesting schedule, with 6 Divisional Games where he should run wild vs some tough draws like the NFC East and the Patriots, but all in all, I see his situation improving and the Rams as a Team on the upswing. I'm excited to see what Al Saunders does with the weapons at his disposal without Gibbs overruling his play-calls.
Can't talk about any of the other 287 Players I chose not to select until the Draft moves on, but I definitely have my reasons for taking Jackson over a few other guys.
As they come off the board, I'll offer some comentary as to why chose this route.
Looking forward to the 2.16/3.01 Swing!
If I were redrafting right now in a standard League that allowed trading during the Draft, I would have traded down to 3, and taken Jackson there. He's got an interesting schedule, with 6 Divisional Games where he should run wild vs some tough draws like the NFC East and the Patriots, but all in all, I see his situation improving and the Rams as a Team on the upswing. I'm excited to see what Al Saunders does with the weapons at his disposal without Gibbs overruling his play-calls.
Can't talk about any of the other 287 Players I chose not to select until the Draft moves on, but I definitely have my reasons for taking Jackson over a few other guys.
As they come off the board, I'll offer some comentary as to why chose this route.
Looking forward to the 2.16/3.01 Swing!
switz
Footballguy
I took LT, but was very tempted by Peterson. I just like that LT gets more touches, especially in the passing game.The Jackson pick, was, well - he's not in my top-5 so, ya know...Speechless!Guess everyone's absolutely stunned that I took Jackson at 1.01...
However, it appears that having to choose between LT & ADP has rendered teamramrod catatonic with surprise.
switz
Footballguy
So no trades in this draft?
Road Warriors
Footballguy
Right, no trades allowed.
switz
Footballguy
1.01 nittanylion
1.02 switz
1.03 El Super Gringo
1.04 Road Warriors
1.05 EBF
1.06 Gamma1210
1.07 wraith5
1.08 anthony borbely
1.09 Norsemen
1.10 beachbum
1.11 MOP
1.12 bostonfred
1.13 comet
1.14 Steel Dillo
1.15 commuterman
1.16 teamramrod
This is full of people I don't see often in the Shark Pool. Outside of the 4 in bold, few of the names look familiar at all, this is gonna be really really tough.
1.02 switz
1.03 El Super Gringo
1.04 Road Warriors
1.05 EBF
1.06 Gamma1210
1.07 wraith5
1.08 anthony borbely
1.09 Norsemen
1.10 beachbum
1.11 MOP
1.12 bostonfred
1.13 comet
1.14 Steel Dillo
1.15 commuterman
1.16 teamramrod
This is full of people I don't see often in the Shark Pool. Outside of the 4 in bold, few of the names look familiar at all, this is gonna be really really tough.
nittanylion
Footballguy
When they're all off the board, I'd be interested in knowing what 5 RB you have ahead of Jackson for 2008. Then we can trade analysis as to why that might be. Obviously, I have between 31 and infinity BEHIND him so, ya know...I took LT, but was very tempted by Peterson. I just like that LT gets more touches, especially in the passing game.The Jackson pick, was, well - he's not in my top-5 so, ya know...Speechless!Guess everyone's absolutely stunned that I took Jackson at 1.01...However, it appears that having to choose between LT & ADP has rendered teamramrod catatonic with surprise.
Seriously, though, it will be interesting to compare/contrast two diametrically opposed POV
CommuterMan
Footballguy
Teamramrod takes Brady and Manning back-to-back... 
Interesting strategy that will probably not pan out IMHO since one of those guys will be sitting each week.
Interesting strategy that will probably not pan out IMHO since one of those guys will be sitting each week.
EBF
Footballguy
Interesting is one way to put it. He locks up stud production at QB every week, but at what cost? He could've had two impact starters there instead of just one.Teamramrod takes Brady and Manning back-to-back...Interesting strategy that will probably not pan out IMHO since one of those guys will be sitting each week.
switz
Footballguy
Add in he'll be seriously weak at other positions now.Interesting is one way to put it. He locks up stud production at QB every week, but at what cost? He could've had two impact starters there instead of just one.Teamramrod takes Brady and Manning back-to-back...
Norseman
Footballguy
Plus they both have the same bye week...Add in he'll be seriously weak at other positions now.Interesting is one way to put it. He locks up stud production at QB every week, but at what cost? He could've had two impact starters there instead of just one.Teamramrod takes Brady and Manning back-to-back...
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
OUCHlook out he'll be the guy that grabs 5 QBsPlus they both have the same bye week...Add in he'll be seriously weak at other positions now.Interesting is one way to put it. He locks up stud production at QB every week, but at what cost? He could've had two impact starters there instead of just one.Teamramrod takes Brady and Manning back-to-back...Interesting strategy that will probably not pan out IMHO since one of those guys will be sitting each week.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Great....I hope he doesn't bail on this abortion.New survivor nickname should be TeamErik.Plus they both have the same bye week...Add in he'll be seriously weak at other positions now.Interesting is one way to put it. He locks up stud production at QB every week, but at what cost? He could've had two impact starters there instead of just one.Teamramrod takes Brady and Manning back-to-back...Interesting strategy that will probably not pan out IMHO since one of those guys will be sitting each week.
wraith5
Footballguy
Is this a Stern reference? The same BYE week is the icing on the cake for this strategy. There will be a lot of points left on the bench the first three weeks, and after that it may not matter.Great....I hope he doesn't bail on this abortion.New survivor nickname should be TeamErik.Plus they both have the same bye week...Add in he'll be seriously weak at other positions now.Interesting is one way to put it. He locks up stud production at QB every week, but at what cost? He could've had two impact starters there instead of just one.Teamramrod takes Brady and Manning back-to-back...Interesting strategy that will probably not pan out IMHO since one of those guys will be sitting each week.
CommuterMan
Footballguy
Taking Manning and Brady back-to-back will not only impact Teamramrod but will have rippling effects to the rest of us as teams adjust to this strategy. Especially in light of the fact that both QBs have the same bye week. No doubt there will be another QB selected by Teamramrod... what happens if that comes in round 3 for him???
Shadowfax
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
So the guy who could've had Tomlinson took Jackson, leaving him to the other guy who could have had Tomlinson, but timed out, so he went to the end of the draft and took Brady and Manning. Is that about right?
Steel Dillo
Footballguy
In the PDSL, I took Manning at 2.02 and never fully recovered. It was hard enough recovering from going with 1 QB early. I can't imagine the skill/luck teamarod is going to have to have to come out with quality at the other positions after going QB in 1 & 2.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
He could win immunity in week 3...of course Boston Fred will likely talk him into giving it to him use in week 4.Shadowfax said:Great....I hope he doesn't bail on this abortion.New survivor nickname should be TeamErik.Plus they both have the same bye week...Add in he'll be seriously weak at other positions now.Interesting is one way to put it. He locks up stud production at QB every week, but at what cost? He could've had two impact starters there instead of just one.Teamramrod takes Brady and Manning back-to-back...
nittanylion
Footballguy
LMAO, BF...that about sums it up.
I planned on being disruptive, but little did I know my nefarious scheming would have such a percussive effect...MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I dunno, as a rule, I don't participate in Mocks until after the NFL Draft. If I start slotting players that early, I develop impressions that are difficult to purge when major post-draft transitions occur.
So, Steven Jackson at the 1.01...there were only 2, maybe 3 other RB's I considered with the Pick:
Tomlinson - somewhat worried about LT without having his backup around to keep him fresh, and on the sidelines when the game is in hand. Before, they had a guy that could actually BE LT when he took a breather. There's not a player in that backfield, in my opinion capable of plugging in and doing the things his former backup could. This could be the year the tread starts to wear thin on the tires...
Adrian Peterson - Every Team in the NFL with Minn on the schedule for '08 has already broken down the Peterson Highlight Reel multiple times. Not only that, there's this phenomenon in scouting that's like a side-effect - when you're scouting one guy, inadvertently, you get a scouting report on his TeamMates. No doubt, every one of them has seen everything about his QB as well, and that's something I'd rather have to work against than work with.
Westbrook - I hit the motherlode with Westbrook last year, and promptly traded him away, happy to have dodged any bullets involving the Player and the Team. I think there are Fantasy Starters on that Team, and don't doubt that if he plays 16 Games, he'll be worthy of a Top 5 Pick, but in Survivor, you have to bank on consistency, and I'll be darned if I'm going to be worried about the Injury Report come every Sunday AM in a League where I have no control over roster decisions, no trades, and no waivers. Too much ancillary Draft Planning has to go into taking a guy like that.
Addai - the whole recent mess involving the WR there has me spooked, I'll admit. If we take this Draft as a snapshot in time, right now, the Colts, in my opinion, have to many variables to take into account to accurately evaluate what to expect in September. They've signed a former backup, and drafted a someone I'd be absolutely uninterested in if he'd landed in any other scheme, but in this one, the sky might be the limit. Go figure. I'm not even gonna try right now.
As far as Jackson goes, I'm so excited to see what Al Saunders is going to do with all the weaps at his disposal in St Louis. As a local Redskins guy who gets his share of inside scoop straight from the Park, I can say with a certain degree of optimism that Gibbs held Saunders back last year, and that Saunders has been given carte blanche to prove this to the rest of the NFL in 2008. Smart move, Al, getting the backup QB you acquired for peanuts compared to what it would have cost to acquire the Redskins backup on the open market. Keep the QB Tandem upright, and everything else will follow, and give Jackson a very good chance to be the Statistically-strongest RB in 2008, and a worthy 1st Overall Selection.
That was very hard to do without mentioning the names of Players who haven't been drafted yet.
I planned on being disruptive, but little did I know my nefarious scheming would have such a percussive effect...MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I dunno, as a rule, I don't participate in Mocks until after the NFL Draft. If I start slotting players that early, I develop impressions that are difficult to purge when major post-draft transitions occur.
So, Steven Jackson at the 1.01...there were only 2, maybe 3 other RB's I considered with the Pick:
Tomlinson - somewhat worried about LT without having his backup around to keep him fresh, and on the sidelines when the game is in hand. Before, they had a guy that could actually BE LT when he took a breather. There's not a player in that backfield, in my opinion capable of plugging in and doing the things his former backup could. This could be the year the tread starts to wear thin on the tires...
Adrian Peterson - Every Team in the NFL with Minn on the schedule for '08 has already broken down the Peterson Highlight Reel multiple times. Not only that, there's this phenomenon in scouting that's like a side-effect - when you're scouting one guy, inadvertently, you get a scouting report on his TeamMates. No doubt, every one of them has seen everything about his QB as well, and that's something I'd rather have to work against than work with.
Westbrook - I hit the motherlode with Westbrook last year, and promptly traded him away, happy to have dodged any bullets involving the Player and the Team. I think there are Fantasy Starters on that Team, and don't doubt that if he plays 16 Games, he'll be worthy of a Top 5 Pick, but in Survivor, you have to bank on consistency, and I'll be darned if I'm going to be worried about the Injury Report come every Sunday AM in a League where I have no control over roster decisions, no trades, and no waivers. Too much ancillary Draft Planning has to go into taking a guy like that.
Addai - the whole recent mess involving the WR there has me spooked, I'll admit. If we take this Draft as a snapshot in time, right now, the Colts, in my opinion, have to many variables to take into account to accurately evaluate what to expect in September. They've signed a former backup, and drafted a someone I'd be absolutely uninterested in if he'd landed in any other scheme, but in this one, the sky might be the limit. Go figure. I'm not even gonna try right now.
As far as Jackson goes, I'm so excited to see what Al Saunders is going to do with all the weaps at his disposal in St Louis. As a local Redskins guy who gets his share of inside scoop straight from the Park, I can say with a certain degree of optimism that Gibbs held Saunders back last year, and that Saunders has been given carte blanche to prove this to the rest of the NFL in 2008. Smart move, Al, getting the backup QB you acquired for peanuts compared to what it would have cost to acquire the Redskins backup on the open market. Keep the QB Tandem upright, and everything else will follow, and give Jackson a very good chance to be the Statistically-strongest RB in 2008, and a worthy 1st Overall Selection.
That was very hard to do without mentioning the names of Players who haven't been drafted yet.
Fiddles
Footballguy
ah now i got yaHe could win immunity in week 3...of course Boston Fred will likely talk him into giving it to him use in week 4.Shadowfax said:Great....I hope he doesn't bail on this abortion.New survivor nickname should be TeamErik.Plus they both have the same bye week...Add in he'll be seriously weak at other positions now.Interesting is one way to put it. He locks up stud production at QB every week, but at what cost? He could've had two impact starters there instead of just one.Teamramrod takes Brady and Manning back-to-back...
switz
Footballguy
I'll just highlight those concerns you had about other players, and mention that to me they apply to Jackson as well, if not more so.
bostonfred
Footballguy
switz, this is a slow draft with an eight hour clock. the clock is turned off overnight. you may want to check the rules, which are pinned at the top of the mock drafts forum. you seem to have caught on to rule #1, which is that the new guy always #####es about the clock.
switz
Footballguy
I know it's a slow draft, it's just that my 2 picks will likely arrive over the weekend. That's all I'm concerned about.
Eh, with 8 picks or so to go before me, I'm probably safe.
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wraith5
Footballguy
Are you including yourself in that statement, MoP?
I don't know how often you see huge variation in first rounds, but typically I see them all about the same.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Best thing to do is to pm a list to one of the guys around here with no life and then check out for the weekend. In SSL2 I sent out lists for the next 3 rounds and then took a 4 day holiday.I know it's a slow draft, it's just that my 2 picks will likely arrive over the weekend. That's all I'm concerned about.Eh, with 8 picks or so to go before me, I'm probably safe.
switz
Footballguy
hey, don't create a stereotype based on one or two schmucks
switz
Footballguy
I guess I don't read FBGs cheatsheets, because I thought there were numerous REACH picks so far...Are you including yourself in that statement, MoP?
I don't know how often you see huge variation in first rounds, but typically I see them all about the same.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Discuss? I'd have a hard time believing ANYONE's Top 5 RB's aren't off the board, which makes them free fodder for discussion. Would love to see your Top 5, in order.TIA, will answer yours.I guess I don't read FBGs cheatsheets, because I thought there were numerous REACH picks so far...Are you including yourself in that statement, MoP?
I don't know how often you see huge variation in first rounds, but typically I see them all about the same.
teamramrod
Footballguy
And here is why....
1. I was at work and let my girlfriend pick for me.
2. http://football29.myfantasyleague.com/2007/home/14877
It is actually 2, though she did type in the picks I told her too.
The link is to a hardcore league that i have been in for years. Three years ago, a guy took TO and Randy Moss with his first two picks. This past year, the same guy did the same thing. His team is the Thundering Mora's and he walked away with cash.
Now let me give you some reasons why I am not crazy.
1. Look at the RBs still on the board at 1.16. Do you see any studs?
2. There are a ton of threads on the main forum about RBBC and the changes it has made to FF. Picking RB, RB with your first two picks is no longer a hard and fast rule.
3. TB and PM are Studs+. Week 4 I am holding my breath, going to church 3 times a week and helping old ladies across the street. The rest of the time, I will lead this league in QB scoring. Can any other team say that about any other position?
4. None of you all have TB or PM
5. Look at the RBs and WRs still on the board. I get 3.16 and 4.1. I will still come away with 2 starting RBs. or maybe I wont.......... (not tipping my draft hand.) But come on. I was the guy laughing at Thundering Moras last year and look where I finished, winning the Toilet Bowl.
6. My stones are the size of basketballs.
You all know that deep down inside, you wanted to try a move like this. Albeit, (yes Bears fan, it is a word) this is a free league with nothing at stake, but still, I will archive this thread and repost like a blogger on Mt Dew mixed with Red Bull in January if I pull this off.
7. I have not searched the boards, but how many of the commentators also posted that Bilichek destroyed the Pats chemistry last year wit the Moss signing?
Now for your worries.
BnB, I wont bail on this so-called abortion To quote Kid Rock, I am in it to win it like Yzerman....
Peace
1. I was at work and let my girlfriend pick for me.
2. http://football29.myfantasyleague.com/2007/home/14877
It is actually 2, though she did type in the picks I told her too.
The link is to a hardcore league that i have been in for years. Three years ago, a guy took TO and Randy Moss with his first two picks. This past year, the same guy did the same thing. His team is the Thundering Mora's and he walked away with cash.
Now let me give you some reasons why I am not crazy.
1. Look at the RBs still on the board at 1.16. Do you see any studs?
2. There are a ton of threads on the main forum about RBBC and the changes it has made to FF. Picking RB, RB with your first two picks is no longer a hard and fast rule.
3. TB and PM are Studs+. Week 4 I am holding my breath, going to church 3 times a week and helping old ladies across the street. The rest of the time, I will lead this league in QB scoring. Can any other team say that about any other position?
4. None of you all have TB or PM
5. Look at the RBs and WRs still on the board. I get 3.16 and 4.1. I will still come away with 2 starting RBs. or maybe I wont.......... (not tipping my draft hand.) But come on. I was the guy laughing at Thundering Moras last year and look where I finished, winning the Toilet Bowl.
6. My stones are the size of basketballs.
You all know that deep down inside, you wanted to try a move like this. Albeit, (yes Bears fan, it is a word) this is a free league with nothing at stake, but still, I will archive this thread and repost like a blogger on Mt Dew mixed with Red Bull in January if I pull this off.7. I have not searched the boards, but how many of the commentators also posted that Bilichek destroyed the Pats chemistry last year wit the Moss signing?
Now for your worries.
BnB, I wont bail on this so-called abortion
To quote Kid Rock, I am in it to win it like Yzerman....Peace
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bostonfred
Footballguy
1. Yes. There were three I would have considered at 2.5 that won't be there at 3.12. I would be thrilled to have any of them, but I wanted Fitzgerald. 2. Nobody has picked RB, RB so far. The second round has gone QB (you), WR, WR, WR, WR, WR, WR, WR so far. You're going to be way behind at WR now.And here is why....
1. I was at work and let my girlfriend pick for me.
2. http://football29.myfantasyleague.com/2007/home/14877
It is actually 2, though she did type in the picks I told her too.
The link is to a hardcore league that i have been in for years. Three years ago, a guy took TO and Randy Moss with his first two picks. This past year, the same guy did the same thing. His team is the Thundering Mora's and he walked away with cash.
Now let me give you some reasons why I am not crazy.
1. Look at the RBs still on the board at 1.16. Do you see any studs?
2. There are a ton of threads on the main forum about RBBC and the changes it has made to FF. Picking RB, RB with your first two picks is no longer a hard and fast rule.
3. TB and PM are Studs+. Week 4 I am holding my breath, going to church 3 times a week and helping old ladies across the street. The rest of the time, I will lead this league in QB scoring. Can any other team say that about any other position?
4. None of you all have TB or PM
5. Look at the RBs and WRs still on the board. I get 3.16 and 4.1. I will still come away with 2 starting RBs. or maybe I wont.......... (not tipping my draft hand.) But come on. I was the guy laughing at Thundering Moras last year and look where I finished, winning the Toilet Bowl.
6. My stones are the size of basketballs.
7. I have not searched the boards, but how many of the commentators also posted that Bilichek destroyed the Pats chemistry last year wit the Moss signing?
Now for your worries.
BnB, I wont bail on this so-called abortion
Peace
3. Someone will be able to say that about every position. The guy with Tomlinson will probably lay claim to the #1 RB position, unless the first guy to go RB, RB does. But yes, I agree that you're going to score more at QB than most of the rest of us.
4. None of us have Brady or Manning. But just about all of us will have two quarterbacks to try to come up with the same score you get at QB each week.
5. If you come away with 2 starting RBs at the next two rounds, you will have no receivers. If you take two receivers, you'll have no running backs.
6. You may have elephantitis. People with that condition usually complain about their aching balls.
7. I agree that drafting Brady and Manning on the same team will not adversely affect your fantasy team's chemistry.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
you forgot #8 - "Better on my bench than in your lineup"
but the move still blows chunks
but the move still blows chunks
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Cool and good luck. Look out if Romo or Brees are on the board at the 3/4 turn.And here is why....
1. I was at work and let my girlfriend pick for me.
2. http://football29.myfantasyleague.com/2007/home/14877
It is actually 2, though she did type in the picks I told her too.
The link is to a hardcore league that i have been in for years. Three years ago, a guy took TO and Randy Moss with his first two picks. This past year, the same guy did the same thing. His team is the Thundering Mora's and he walked away with cash.
Now let me give you some reasons why I am not crazy.
1. Look at the RBs still on the board at 1.16. Do you see any studs?
2. There are a ton of threads on the main forum about RBBC and the changes it has made to FF. Picking RB, RB with your first two picks is no longer a hard and fast rule.
3. TB and PM are Studs+. Week 4 I am holding my breath, going to church 3 times a week and helping old ladies across the street. The rest of the time, I will lead this league in QB scoring. Can any other team say that about any other position?
4. None of you all have TB or PM
5. Look at the RBs and WRs still on the board. I get 3.16 and 4.1. I will still come away with 2 starting RBs. or maybe I wont.......... (not tipping my draft hand.) But come on. I was the guy laughing at Thundering Moras last year and look where I finished, winning the Toilet Bowl.
6. My stones are the size of basketballs.
7. I have not searched the boards, but how many of the commentators also posted that Bilichek destroyed the Pats chemistry last year wit the Moss signing?
Now for your worries.
BnB, I wont bail on this so-called abortion
Peace
teamramrod
Footballguy
I can only hope that both are available....
wraith5
Footballguy
How do you figure that? The thing I don't like about Boldin is that 1/2 of his games end up being pedestrian or worse. Sure, he blows up in the other 1/2 and catches a dozen balls for 120 yds or 2 TDs... but in this format I think that's a lot of risk for a 2nd round pick. Steve Smith, on the other hand, has all of the pieces in place to have another 2005 season this year.
wraith5
Footballguy
Because you wait until he'd provide the best value on the board before you'd pick him?
