Starting with confidence tonight.God Weaver has been atrocious. He's riding the pine until he can put a decent 7 innings together.
Me tooshuke said:Starting with confidence tonight.God Weaver has been atrocious. He's riding the pine until he can put a decent 7 innings together.
Verlander isn't who we thought he was. Consider this post an official sell order. He's hiding shoulder issues at a young age. Sell while you can.Can we add Verlander to this thread?
Have you been reading the same things that I have for the last month?Verlander isn't who we thought he was. Consider this post an official sell order. He's hiding shoulder issues at a young age. Sell while you can.Can we add Verlander to this thread?
No, but I am an MLB InsiderHave you been reading the same things that I have for the last month?Verlander isn't who we thought he was. Consider this post an official sell order. He's hiding shoulder issues at a young age. Sell while you can.Can we add Verlander to this thread?
Me tooStarting with confidence tonight.God Weaver has been atrocious. He's riding the pine until he can put a decent 7 innings together.
Same here. He at least got 6 K's in 4.33 IP, so there's a little sunshine there.His next start is against the Nats, and if he can't put something together there I'm really going to be perplexed.I've been trying to trade him for a couple of weeks now and didn't even get a nibble. Couldn't even pry away someone elses underachiever (Bonderman). I'm hoping he has a good game against Washington and I can move him to a believer.I just knew starting Myers last night was a bad idea, still don't know why I left him in there. Thankfully those HR's came with the bases empty.
I did end up dropping him in one league.But my staff there is quite solid (Haren, Beckett, DiceK, Maine, Volquez)Of course, the same league I have Myers and Billingsly too...I would have never thought all 3 of them would struggle.Another guy off to a bad start is Snell. I considered dropping him today, but after looking closer at some of his stats, I'm going to keep him on my bench. His BABIP is .345 while his K and BB rate are still in line with last year. His LD% is a bit high too so I'm going to hope he's just having some bad luck right now and will correct.
This is an excellent point and I mentioned the same thing at another board. Johan is having trouble adjusting to NL play and he doesn't look nearly as sharp as he did in 2006. Still a stud, don't get me wrong but at this point in his career he needs to start applying his experience in tandem with his raw talent which I think is what Statorama is eluding to. He's just not doing that so far this year and 1 K over 7+ innings is not the Johan we know.Statorama said:It's a small thing, but Johan Santana needs to learn that the leagues have small differences. You can pitch around that 8th place hitter if you want to with the pitcher coming up next.He's grooving changeups to Kelly Johnson with Tim Hudson in the on deck circle? Uncool.Edit to add: Someone wake up Willie Randolph and tell him it's ok to get the bullpen going, even if it is the great Johan that's struggling.
Thanks DD. It also seems like Willie is, I don't know, afraid of hurting Johan's feelings or something. Santana is human, and some nights he just doesn't have his best stuff. It's ok to bring in someone from the pen, even if it's the sixth inning.This is an excellent point and I mentioned the same thing at another board. Johan is having trouble adjusting to NL play and he doesn't look nearly as sharp as he did in 2006. Still a stud, don't get me wrong but at this point in his career he needs to start applying his experience in tandem with his raw talent which I think is what Statorama is eluding to. He's just not doing that so far this year and 1 K over 7+ innings is not the Johan we know.Statorama said:It's a small thing, but Johan Santana needs to learn that the leagues have small differences. You can pitch around that 8th place hitter if you want to with the pitcher coming up next.He's grooving changeups to Kelly Johnson with Tim Hudson in the on deck circle? Uncool.Edit to add: Someone wake up Willie Randolph and tell him it's ok to get the bullpen going, even if it is the great Johan that's struggling.
Willie overuses his bullpen every other game. Hes a black Joe Torre. Poor Heilman & Sanchez have been running on fumes.Thanks DD. It also seems like Willie is, I don't know, afraid of hurting Johan's feelings or something. Santana is human, and some nights he just doesn't have his best stuff. It's ok to bring in someone from the pen, even if it's the sixth inning.
That's why it stands out like a sore thumb that he doesn't trot them out there when Johan is throwing BP. He has no problems yanking anyone else when they're getting killed out there, and the Braves weren't hitting soft dribblers. Johan wasn't even fooling the lefties in the lineup...Mark Kotsay was stinging the ball.It was just frustrating watching that merry-go-round in the sixth inning. I was hoping that Willie was frustrated too, seeing as how he's in a position to do something about it.Willie overuses his bullpen every other game. Hes a black Joe Torre. Poor Heilman & Sanchez have been running on fumes.Thanks DD. It also seems like Willie is, I don't know, afraid of hurting Johan's feelings or something. Santana is human, and some nights he just doesn't have his best stuff. It's ok to bring in someone from the pen, even if it's the sixth inning.
6 man league?Clifton said:Aaron Harang he's pitching better than his numbers would suggest. I got him off the wire
or a n00b league, who drops Aaron Harang?6 man league?Clifton said:Aaron Harang he's pitching better than his numbers would suggest. I got him off the wire
New owner in a 10 team keep 8 league. He purchased the team this year. Rosters are relatively small so there's a few decent pitchers on the wire.6 man league?Clifton said:Aaron Harang he's pitching better than his numbers would suggest. I got him off the wire
3 man league? who drops myers?Time to dump Myers yet?
I think it's a legit question. Keep an eye on Philly. If they sign Lidge during the year....(which by accounts on the radio they are talking to him about....something that Gillick doesn't really like to do) they will move Brett Myers to a team in need of a closer for a pitcher who wants to be a starter. Myers' solutions to things on the mound currently is that if someone gets a hit off of him.....he's just going to throw it harder down the middle of the plate.3 man league? who drops myers?Time to dump Myers yet?
Why would a team trade for Myers to be their closer?I think it's a legit question. Keep an eye on Philly. If they sign Lidge during the year....(which by accounts on the radio they are talking to him about....something that Gillick doesn't really like to do) they will move Brett Myers to a team in need of a closer for a pitcher who wants to be a starter. Myers' solutions to things on the mound currently is that if someone gets a hit off of him.....he's just going to throw it harder down the middle of the plate.3 man league? who drops myers?Time to dump Myers yet?
Because Myers was an effective closer and he only wants to be a closer. If Lidge walks...Myers is the closer next year.Why would a team trade for Myers to be their closer?I think it's a legit question. Keep an eye on Philly. If they sign Lidge during the year....(which by accounts on the radio they are talking to him about....something that Gillick doesn't really like to do) they will move Brett Myers to a team in need of a closer for a pitcher who wants to be a starter. Myers' solutions to things on the mound currently is that if someone gets a hit off of him.....he's just going to throw it harder down the middle of the plate.3 man league? who drops myers?Time to dump Myers yet?
Someone who's in 2nd place with the only thing keeping him out of first are Bretty Myers' horrible ratios? That's who.3 man league? who drops myers?Time to dump Myers yet?
He was an effective closer for half a year. The rest of his career he's been an effective starter. And I havent seen him say he wants to only be a closer. Do you have a link? Not saying youre wrong but this is the first Im hearing of it.Because Myers was an effective closer and he only wants to be a closer. If Lidge walks...Myers is the closer next year.Why would a team trade for Myers to be their closer?I think it's a legit question. Keep an eye on Philly. If they sign Lidge during the year....(which by accounts on the radio they are talking to him about....something that Gillick doesn't really like to do) they will move Brett Myers to a team in need of a closer for a pitcher who wants to be a starter. Myers' solutions to things on the mound currently is that if someone gets a hit off of him.....he's just going to throw it harder down the middle of the plate.3 man league? who drops myers?Time to dump Myers yet?
Brah....this has been a topic of discussion for awhile now......made more relevant with:a) the contract talks that are supposedly going on with Lidgeb) the horrible, horrible pitching of Brett Myers. If Myers were living up to his potential...this wouldn't be an issue. But he's not. He wants to be in the bullpen.There has also been some chatter about moving Durbin to the rotation and putting Myers in as a long man if it continues. No link to Myers' closer aspirations.Is it just me or are Philly fans the most nervous, knee-jerk reactionary fans in the country? Dump Myers? He's going to be traded to be a closer somewhere? Myers only wants to be a closer? Dumping him would be just as dumb as those who sold low on CC and Ryan Howard in April. The other two? Sounds like Philly sports radio media hype hoop-la irrelvant BS.
I bet the Phils wish they did that.I actually dropped Myers a couple weeks back for Gavin Floyd and have no regrets about it.
Lidge's contract talks have nothing to do with Myers.Myers had three quality starts in a row before last night.Replacing Myers with Durbin?! I want what you're smoking. Durbin's best utilized as a long relief arm, want proof? Look how he did as a starter for the Tigers. To compare him to Myers is laughable.And I take it this "chatter" of him wanting to move to the pen and being replaced by Durbin giggle is just Philly sports radio media jabber mixed in with homer message board drivel since there are no links. Chatter is not news.Brah....this has been a topic of discussion for awhile now......made more relevant with:a) the contract talks that are supposedly going on with Lidgeb) the horrible, horrible pitching of Brett Myers. If Myers were living up to his potential...this wouldn't be an issue. But he's not. He wants to be in the bullpen.There has also been some chatter about moving Durbin to the rotation and putting Myers in as a long man if it continues. No link to Myers' closer aspirations.Is it just me or are Philly fans the most nervous, knee-jerk reactionary fans in the country? Dump Myers? He's going to be traded to be a closer somewhere? Myers only wants to be a closer? Dumping him would be just as dumb as those who sold low on CC and Ryan Howard in April. The other two? Sounds like Philly sports radio media hype hoop-la irrelvant BS.
i was just being a turdI think it's a legit question. Keep an eye on Philly. If they sign Lidge during the year....(which by accounts on the radio they are talking to him about....something that Gillick doesn't really like to do) they will move Brett Myers to a team in need of a closer for a pitcher who wants to be a starter. Myers' solutions to things on the mound currently is that if someone gets a hit off of him.....he's just going to throw it harder down the middle of the plate.3 man league? who drops myers?Time to dump Myers yet?
What you don't know about Philly baseball would fill the Grand Canyon. Lidge's contract has alot to do with Myers. More than a few baseball people in Philadelphia have said that if Lidge goes elsewhere.....Myers will be the closer next year; that he is better suited for it than as a starter; that he has more of a closer mentality. They've also said that if Lidge signs during midseason (something that the front office has admitted to initiating and something they don't always do) that they will take offers for Myers.....(if he doesn't straighten himself out). Have you seen Myers pitch this year? he looks clueless out there; his head isn't on and he isn't thinking like a top of the rotation starter.Lidge's contract talks have nothing to do with Myers.Myers had three quality starts in a row before last night.Replacing Myers with Durbin?! I want what you're smoking. Durbin's best utilized as a long relief arm, want proof? Look how he did as a starter for the Tigers. To compare him to Myers is laughable.And I take it this "chatter" of him wanting to move to the pen and being replaced by Durbin giggle is just Philly sports radio media jabber mixed in with homer message board drivel since there are no links. Chatter is not news.Brah....this has been a topic of discussion for awhile now......made more relevant with:a) the contract talks that are supposedly going on with Lidgeb) the horrible, horrible pitching of Brett Myers. If Myers were living up to his potential...this wouldn't be an issue. But he's not. He wants to be in the bullpen.There has also been some chatter about moving Durbin to the rotation and putting Myers in as a long man if it continues. No link to Myers' closer aspirations.Is it just me or are Philly fans the most nervous, knee-jerk reactionary fans in the country? Dump Myers? He's going to be traded to be a closer somewhere? Myers only wants to be a closer? Dumping him would be just as dumb as those who sold low on CC and Ryan Howard in April. The other two? Sounds like Philly sports radio media hype hoop-la irrelvant BS.